FSU i agree with. USCe not in my opinion. I think them being good for that short period of 5 or 6 years fueled Clemson's desire more than anything. Clemson's rise was happening regardless of what USCe did,, the train was already starting to roll. Even the last of the 5 straight it was easy to see Clemson was the better team (Spurrier even said as much), 5 or 6 turnovers was the difference.

Clemson gave Dabo the money to go buy the best coaches. He started with Chad Morris and then Venables after that debacle against WVA.

I would say the 4 main things that got Clemson to 2015 were:

1. Chad Morris and his recruitment of D Watson. His offense at the time smwas an easy sell to skill players.
2. Getting destroyed by WVA in the OB and getting rid of Kevin Steele and hiring Brent Venables.
3. Beating LSU in the Peach Bowl.
4. Beating OSU and Urban in the Orange Bowl, it showed them they could play at that level. I think standing toe to toe with Bama in the 2016 Championship game was validation.
Bonus of course was hiring Dabo which at the time seemed like Clemson was content on being a solid club with a chance at the ACC every few years. Like Dabo or not he sold his program and vision to coaches, recruits and boosters.

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Posted by CNB

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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:44 pm to BHTiger

Bro wrote a novel to claim otherwise

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Posted by theGarnetWay

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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:51 pm to BHTiger

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Clemson's rise was happening regardless of what USCe did,, the train was already starting to roll. Even the last of the 5 straight it was easy to see Clemson was the better team (Spurrier even said as much), 5 or 6 turnovers was the difference.

We won each of those by double digits. Including when a back up QB came in and won @Clemson.

I’m not even saying Clemson would’ve stayed where they were or wouldn’t have been national title contenders. I am saying if we had stayed at that level that we were we would’ve beaten Clemson at least some of the games during their current 7 game win streak.

Depending on the season, that would’ve been enough to knock Clemson out of the playoff(s) which in turn would’ve have helped dampen Clemson’s run as an automatic playoff making machine that’s so alluring to recruits.

Instead, we imploded with Spurrier, Muschamp, and Tanner and removed a hurdle from Clemson’s path. Add that to FSU’s self destruction and the two teams on that regularly beat up on Clemson under Dabo were now out of the way.

This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 12:55 pm

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