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re: Can we talk about the 1H fumble situation in LSU-Bama?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 4:03 pm to TFS4E
Posted on 11/9/22 at 4:03 pm to TFS4E
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The concept of possession is probably the key point here. Knee down, two hands on the ball, ball punched from hands after
So this statement has me reminded of the incident in the LSU/A&M game in 2018 where the aggie qb throws and interception right before OT that would have sealed the win for LSU. He drops the ball, kneels down and touches it. The referees said that since his knee was down and he was touching the ball that constituted possession and the play was ruled dead as his knee was down. Shouldn't that same thing have applied last Saturday as the LSU player's knee was down and he, too, was actually touching the ball? If memory serves me right, he actually even had both hands on the ball and looked to be in possession of the ball when the Bama player touched it.
Strange rule.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 4:34 pm to stratman
2018:
Possession presnap; Aggies.
Person w/knee down: OFFENSE, BALL CARRIER.
Last Saturday:
Possession presnap: Bama
Person w/knee down: DEFENDER.
Free to debate the call but there are some significant differences. Impetus becomes a factor too.
Possession presnap; Aggies.
Person w/knee down: OFFENSE, BALL CARRIER.
Last Saturday:
Possession presnap: Bama
Person w/knee down: DEFENDER.
Free to debate the call but there are some significant differences. Impetus becomes a factor too.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 4:37 pm to stratman
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Shouldn't that same thing have applied last Saturday as the LSU player's knee was down and he, too, was actually touching the ball? If memory serves me right, he actually even had both hands on the ball and looked to be in possession of the ball when the Bama player touched it.
He was ruled to have never possessed the ball. Just touching is not possession. So possession remained with the team that possessed it last before the illegal touching occurred. It is a strange rule, these circumstances don't happen very often, obviously. As far as the other game scenario you described, sounds like the QB reclaimed possession of the ball while his knee was still touching the ground, making him down at that point. If the QB had touched it while his knee was down but not possessed it, regained his feet, then possessed it again (maybe by scooping it up), I think the play would have continued. I'm not sure though, rules can be weird.
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