re: When will it be time to add NC State?

Virginia and North Carolina would be slaughtered in football in the SEC. They know that.

Why would they come?

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I never understood this. If I am going into the mid atlantic market, Im taking North Carolina and Virginia.

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If possible, sure. UNC might eventually join the SEC if the ACC falls apart, but I can't see UVA doing so. They'll look at the SEC as slumming it, academically. I think they'd bolt for the Big 10. In fact, I think that was part of the strategy behind the Big 10 taking Maryland.

I don't really want to expand again, but if we have to, I hope it's east. If we can't get UNC or UVA, I'd like some combination of NC State/VT/WVU.