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re: “Outbreak occurred mainly among vaccinated athletes”

Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by HotRock
Starkville,MS
Member since Aug 2018
513 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:03 pm to
Many athletes took the Johnson and Johnson single dose vaccine and never followed up with boosters. J&J was proved to be not as effective from the start at stopping people from getting Covid-19 but still prevented serious illnesses.

It has been established by anyone listening that it would not prevent getting the Covid and surely not the newest variant.

Glossed over media stuff is BS too. People that use this say vaccines dont' work don't have any idea how vaccines even work.

It takes a series of 4 shots for Polio vaccine, and small pox? 2 shots separated by 4 weeks and every 3 years after that if you go where it's still active.

Covid Vaccines are no different. It does not last forever and with the new strains it certainly won't keep working forever either but as most strains come along they will naturally become less deadly so vaccinations will become less and less a need for everyone.

The flu vaccine is an every year thing and lots of people take them but they only range in effectiveness from 40-70% in a given year. Some won't take it but to say they don't help is a lie.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15179 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:04 pm to
exactly. If they had gotten their Moderna booster in November like they were SUPPOSSED to this wouldnt be happening.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96264 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:05 pm to
If those idiots could read they might learn something from you

Can’t be having that
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Many athletes took the Johnson and Johnson single dose vaccine and never followed up with boosters. J&J was proved to be not as effective from the start at stopping people from getting Covid-19 but still prevented serious illnesses.

It has been established by anyone listening that it would not prevent getting the Covid and surely not the newest variant.

Glossed over media stuff is BS too. People that use this say vaccines dont' work don't have any idea how vaccines even work.

It takes a series of 4 shots for Polio vaccine, and small pox? 2 shots separated by 4 weeks and every 3 years after that if you go where it's still active.

Covid Vaccines are no different. It does not last forever and with the new strains it certainly won't keep working forever either but as most strains come along they will naturally become less deadly so vaccinations will become less and less a need for everyone.

The flu vaccine is an every year thing and lots of people take them but they only range in effectiveness from 40-70% in a given year. Some won't take it but to say they don't help is a lie.


There is a lot of knowledge in that post.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 4:11 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22912 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Many athletes took the Johnson and Johnson single dose vaccine and never followed up with boosters. J&J was proved to be not as effective from the start at stopping people from getting Covid-19 but still prevented serious illnesses.

It has been established by anyone listening that it would not prevent getting the Covid and surely not the newest variant.

Glossed over media stuff is BS too. People that use this say vaccines dont' work don't have any idea how vaccines even work.

It takes a series of 4 shots for Polio vaccine, and small pox? 2 shots separated by 4 weeks and every 3 years after that if you go where it's still active.

Covid Vaccines are no different. It does not last forever and with the new strains it certainly won't keep working forever either but as most strains come along they will naturally become less deadly so vaccinations will become less and less a need for everyone.

The flu vaccine is an every year thing and lots of people take them but they only range in effectiveness from 40-70% in a given year. Some won't take it but to say they don't help is a lie.



Where did you get the medical information on all these athletes?

Because it sounds to me like you've made some shite up to make excuses since giving out that information would likely be a violation of HIPPA.

But lets recap the excuses.

1. You claim they took the weakest of the vaccines.

2. You claim they didn't take their boosters, which means they weren't fully vaccinated.


Posted by miracleman
Cullman
Member since Oct 2020
271 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

The flu vaccine is an every year thing and lots of people take them but they only range in effectiveness from 40-70% in a given year. Some won't take it but to say they don't help is a lie.

Corona isn't a flu virus. The Corona viruses are FAR larger RNA virus. It is a COMPLETELY different animal. I invite you to read up on it. A single mutation to the MUCH smaller flu virus changes it by a much larger percentage making it much harder for our immune systems to recognize a new flu strain. This is the reason you have to have a flue shot every year because they take an educated guess as to which strains will be in the wild ever year. And sometimes they guess wrong.

The mRNA vaccines are only targeting the spike protein. The are NOT presenting a full picture of the virus to your immune system. Period. Therefor cannot be as effective as a traditional vaccine. And they are proving that every day now. In fact, they should not even be called vaccines! Go read upon that little side story. Also, the mRNA tech was never successful in any animal study for the SAME exact reasons. Again, don't take my word for it. Read up on it.

I had COVID a year an a half ago. Since then, I have had 7 serologic tests (I gave blood for convalescent plasma and they tested each time) that showed both IGM and IGG antibodies scoring over 300 each for the original Alpha strain. Meaning I have had NO "breakthrough" infections of Delta or Omicron. A year and a half!!! THAT is what natural immunity does, folks. And I have been living life like normal since I was infected. I have gone to many so called "super spreader" events too. And I don't wear a fricking mask either. If you can still smell a fart with a mask on, good luck with that covid thing!!!

This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5767 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

Many athletes took the Johnson and Johnson single dose vaccine and never followed up with boosters. J&J was proved to be not as effective from the start at stopping people from getting Covid-19 but still prevented serious illnesses.

It has been established by anyone listening that it would not prevent getting the Covid and surely not the newest variant.

Glossed over media stuff is BS too. People that use this say vaccines dont' work don't have any idea how vaccines even work.

It takes a series of 4 shots for Polio vaccine, and small pox? 2 shots separated by 4 weeks and every 3 years after that if you go where it's still active.

Covid Vaccines are no different. It does not last forever and with the new strains it certainly won't keep working forever either but as most strains come along they will naturally become less deadly so vaccinations will become less and less a need for everyone.

The flu vaccine is an every year thing and lots of people take them but they only range in effectiveness from 40-70% in a given year. Some won't take it but to say they don't help is a lie.


Not sure about athletes and Johnson and Johnson vaccine numbers, but many college football players had Wuhan back in summer and fall of 2020. Some players of SEC teams seemed to “unofficially” try to pass it around before season started even though the 90 day limit on them avoiding quarantine for close contact still in effect ended up coming into play.

Outside of false positives or tests still using too high of a cycle threshold back then (picking up non-replicating fragments) the Johnson and Johnson should have served as a booster for any prior positives.

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