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re: **Update Page 17** Inside Info From PM: Sean White #1 JF3 Losing Ground?

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Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:48 am to
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He wants to go fast

I think he wants a killer instinct in our receivers
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:48 am to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:49 am to
Hey guys,


Any updates on Eli Jenkins today?
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:51 am to
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Any updates on Eli Jenkins today?


We've learned that he's more productive than SW & JJ but not more talented, according to KK's logic

And that Joey is a dick
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:57 am to
We're going to be ok.

CamWoody is coming to town

CamWoody

Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:01 am to
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We've learned that he's more productive than SW & JJ but not more talented, according to KK's logic

Thanks for clarifying. Geneschin needs all the help he can get.
Posted by WareagleKK
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:11 am to
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That is a little BS though when you consider guys like Tony Stewart are "more talented" than Jax St wrs.


When you are talking about drop off in WRs for Jenkins, production is what we are talking about. So either your talent argument was A) completely pointless or B) arguing that talent = more production


Tony Stewart killed a man on a racetrack. No clue what he has to do with this conversation.

I see your point in the talent to production thing and arguing drop off for Eli's WRs. My tendency, aside from shitting rainbows, is when projecting younger guys to look more at their attributes as opposed to production (since there are no college stats to go on). But WR SPECIFICALLY is a position that can much moreso easily be a position of strength with a frosh than the more physical positions closer to the LOS. If we were talking about DTs or OL then we shouldn't even have this conversation for sure. But there are lots of talented frosh WRs who contribute major numbers right away.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:16 am to
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aside from shitting rainbows


Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:21 am to
Just for a little clarification in the original argument.


Some other poster (don't remember who) made the claim that Jax St WRs were better than ours. Some how they deduced that Jenkins will be better at Auburn using that as evidence.

So I said IF that is true (didn't care if actually was or not), he would have worse stats since he has lesser WRs and better competition.

So the argument about who is more talented (as KK defines it) is pretty irrelevant. The question would be if I plug in NCM or any Auburn WR with Jenkins at QB next year, will he help or hurt Jenkins more or less than if I plug in a Jax St WR.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:22 am to
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:24 am to
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Some other poster (don't remember who) made the claim that Jax St WRs were better than ours. Some how they deduced that Jenkins will be better at Auburn using that as evidence
I stated Jacksonville State had better receivers than Auburn, although I do not think Eli Jenkins will be better at Auburn because of that.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:27 am to
I don't think it was you.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:28 am to
Middle of page 9.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:29 am to
Top of page 8

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There's a lot to digest there. Both QBs benfited from dropped INTs. JJ was playing around a more talented overall team. Eli probably had better receivers.

We talk about how amazing Eli played in that game but I think that we've slightly distorted his performance in that game


Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:29 am to
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The question would be if I plug in NCM or any Auburn WR with Jenkins at QB next year, will he help or hurt Jenkins more or less than if I plug in a Jax St WR.

I don't know. I'm tired of talking about Jenkins honestly. I don't even know if he is capable of beating out SW, much less if he is really considering playing for Auburn.

People do not need to mistake Jenkins for another Cam or NM or any other "shot in the arm" QB.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:32 am to
I completely overlooked that post, but I don't think there's a "probably" to it. They were definitely better last year, and although Auburn has some serious talent coming in, they're unproven and we don't even know how much playing time they'll get.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:34 am to
Jay Tate, Bryan Matthews and Jeff Lee have talked a lot about Eli Jenkins on the last two Rundowns. Basically, he's very much in play (so long as is legal troubles are out of the way, and everyone expects them to be), and the ship on Davis Webb has set sail. Eli Jenkins would likely still require a waiver to transfer to Auburn, but Jay Tate thinks he would get one. They also collectively agreed that he was better than anything we currently have on roster. TIFWIW.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34092 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:35 am to
We're on the same page.

I'll agree with the others that I like the WRs we are bringing in. We undervalued hands/ability to catch in multiple recruiting classes in a row. I feel like we've begun addressing that.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:37 am to
I just hope we're able to see Nate Craig-Myers, Eli Stove and Kyle Davis on the field in some capacity this year. I don't see any reason to redshirt outside of injury.

Nate Craig-Myers could be a guy we see on kick off return.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:54 am to
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TheJones
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And that Joey is a dick
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