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re: Theories on What’s Wrong With Gus?

Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:06 pm to
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The same guy that gave us some of the best moments in Auburn history. LOL.

Those flash in the pan moments were short lived and ended in pain. Chizik is who delivered.

Gus was merely a five loss coach
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:11 pm to
Why in the frick did yall bring that win to the board anyways. They beat Oklahoma State. So did South Alabama. Who cares?


Gus has already blown a late 28 point lead this year. He also lost a game on a two point conversion on some failed mickey mouse RB pass. Gus has already proven he is still the same person worth firing and eating a buyout.


Auburn already has an 8 win coach that can actually call an offense. There is no reason for the Gus nostalgia.
This post was edited on 11/11/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted by AUmemphis
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:32 pm to
That’s true- and every coach (with a few exceptions) fizzles at the end. He didn’t really fizzle as much as he just could obtain a consistency. Game-day planning wasn’t consistent. Recruiting for need wasn’t consistent. Winning wasn’t consistent. Adapting wasn’t consistent. I do think it was time when we parted.

The highest high- 2013 season.

After that- there were great times- how 2017 ended for example. But 2017 had the insanely frustrating Clemson game and LSU games.

How 2014 ended was a huge thud. Disappointing as heck.

2015 was just bad. Very frustrating.

2016- another bad start and bad finish. Disappointing.

2017- very Solid year.

2018- 3 SEC wins again. Disappointing

2019- very solid year.

2020- was what it was. 6 and 4 wasn’t awful.

Gus had a GREAT first year and two very solid years (2017 and 2019). All three great or solid years had a very disappointing bowl games. The rest was ultimately either frustrating, disappointing or both.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:39 pm to
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Gus had a GREAT first year and two very solid years (2017 and 2019). All three great or solid years had a very disappointing bowl games. The rest was ultimately either frustrating, disappointing or both.



And since?

The Sec is very different than it was before. Let’s just see how it goes from here

We are groveling at how great we are doing under Hugh in recruiting this year. It would basically be Malzahn worst class. LOL.

Dude recruited better than given credit. He had some gaps but every coach does. He was easy to nit pick. Which is partially why we ended up paying 35 million for Brian fricking Harsin. And some of the keyboard cowboys here lived it.
This post was edited on 11/11/23 at 7:40 pm
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:42 pm to
Bitchtits Mcfrickface won some games, but never built a program.

Let’s see if BrAUther Hugh can build a program,.

It’s a tall task competing with so many great teams.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:45 pm to
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It’s a tall task competing with so many great teams.




LOL. Same for both coaches.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:54 pm to
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We are groveling at how great we are doing under Hugh in recruiting this year. It would basically be Malzahn worst class. LOL.

I have no doubt in my mind that Gus could not recruit Ole Miss like Freeze did.I also have no doubts Freeze will recruit better than the booger picker that tended to inflate recrit rankings with extra nickelbacks and raw players from nigeria.

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He had some gaps but every coach does

Malzahn could not beat our rivals on the road. He also could not win in the postseason. He could not beat Georgia at all, and he could not win against the better teams. He was closer to an Achy Breaky Heart One Hit Wonder if anything. His 2019 offense was pathetic and let Auburn down. If Gus was a decent offensive coach that team wins the conference, but instead it was a 4 loss team that even Minnesota could break one off in Gus.


This post was edited on 11/11/23 at 8:05 pm
Posted by AUmemphis
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:55 pm to
Dude. We aren’t talking about Hardashian or Freezus. The discussion was Gus.

Gus was inconsistent. Period.

Won 12 games.

Lost 5+ games the next three years.

Won 10 games.

Lost 5, 4 and 4 the next three seasons.

He recruited well- except for key needs. He didn’t really develop well or maximize those rankings.

I’ll bite- had we not fired him and he’d coached in 2021 and 2022-

I think we beat South Carolina and Bama in 2021- another 8-5 year and a win over Bama.

I’m 2022 I think we beat LSU last year. If we’d have retained Bo- then maybe we knock off MSU too. Again-7-6 season.

The problem is the talent gap was widening under him- like it did under Tommy when they decided to let up on recruiting.

I don’t hate Gus. Just have a realistic idea of him.

Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 7:59 pm to
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even Minnesota could break one off in Gus.


That was the day BtMff broke me. After inside zone 3 times and punt after half, I went to the golf course and played 9. I never missed another Saturday golfing for the remainder of Gus tenure.

I still do not plan my day around Auburn football. Maybe BrAUther Hugh can REVIVE my spirit.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 8:01 pm to
That team was rowing their boat!
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66396 posts
Posted on 11/11/23 at 8:07 pm to
You literally just explained Auburns history. Inconsistent. Except we didn’t have the constant off field issues, constant NCAA issues and locker room problems.

He coached at the peak of the SEC. Like I said, let’s just hope Hugh can sniff a SEC championship, a national championship, beating 3, #1 teams and being ranked every year. His tenure happened at a time where our biggest 2 rivals were at their best. Plus LSU having their best team ever

Let’s see how we do now and how fast Hugh gets us relevant again. We know how fast Malzahn took a 3 win team to relevancy. Let’s see how fast we get back in the picture.


It’s all that will matter in the end. We dog Malzahn for being a 8 win coach all awhile praising Hugh for wing 7 games. Let’s just compare what happens after a few years under Hugh.


This post was edited on 11/11/23 at 8:08 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 8:16 pm to
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His tenure happened at a time where our biggest 2 rivals were at their best.

He could not beat Georgia when they were at their worst. He seemed largely apathetic of Georgia.

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We know how fast Malzahn took a 3 win team to relevancy. Let’s see how fast we get back in the picture.

Gus inherited a Chizik team with minimal attrition.
Freeze inherited a team devoid of whole recruiting classes following back to back losing seasons. Apples to oranges

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It’s all that will matter in the end. We dog Malzahn for being a 8 win coach all awhile praising Hugh for wing 7 games. Let’s just compare what happens after a few years under Hugh.

Also apples to oranges. Hugh is in year 1 of a real rebound. If Hugh is sporting an 8-5 with consistency and goes completely braindead trying to call a passing offense then I will call him another shitty coach like Gus.

This post was edited on 11/11/23 at 8:19 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/11/23 at 9:56 pm to
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Bitchtits Mcfrickface won some games, but never built a program. Let’s see if BrAUther Hugh can build a program,.


If I wasn't married to my sig your first line would be it.
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 5:33 am to
Watch college football final for typical Gus talk.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 5:37 am to
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Watch college football final for typical Gus talk.




You mean where his team was celebrating beating a top 15 team with less talent? Yea, thats a bad look.


Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 5:41 am to
BOOM!

All coaches have a go to slogan,etc.

Good luck to him.

I thought he was ok, but we paid him almost Saban money.

He did not earn his raise.
He had to go.

Coach Freeze will either build a consistently competitive program, or he will be replaced after 8 years.

Was Auburn better after 8 years of Gus?
His best year was year one.
Next best was year 5.

Kind of up and down.
Not 49 million dollars worth of results.
This post was edited on 11/12/23 at 5:48 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66396 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 5:58 am to
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Kind of up and down.


Yea, I think that is a good description. I dont think of it in money terms. The money amounts are so crazy now, does it really matter? I would rather pay Gus 49 mil to be up and down than Harsin whatever we paid him to be all down and tear the program down to the ground.

I agreed it was time for him to go but I dont agree with all the negativity towards him. Dude was good at Auburn, one of our best ever, and he never did a single bad thing while he was here. My biggest complaint for him was being a hard head at times and that some of our best recruits couldnt be developed. Not really sure if that was a issue with him or just the nature of the beast. He brought in some of the best recruits in our history. Was cool getting them and always being up there in recruiting

We have been down since and we are all beaten down from it. I hear guys taking on the recruiting thread about Freeze being a recruiting animal and we are 8th in the SEC right now. He is doing better than Harsin but still not up to Gus level... Lets hope he can get us there


The higgest highs are always the best for me. I guess that is why I like Malzahn. Id rather have those up seasons than a constant 9 win program. frick being consistent, I want the be the best every once in a while

Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 6:09 am to
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The money amounts are so crazy now, does it really matter


I just wish we could tie most of salary to results.

Win 6, get 2 million,
Win 8, 3 million, 10, 5 million, SEC title 9 million,
Playoff appearance 10 million, Nattie 15 million.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66396 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 6:16 am to
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I just wish we could tie most of salary to results.



Man that would change things. Coaches would be on edge like a mofo.

I feel like coaching money comes from outside. And colleges have so much cash these days, I honestly DGAF. If they dont have the money, they should not be spending it. Just like you and me.


I remember the talk on here about paying Gus 19mil to leave. But absolutely zero talk about having to pay Harsin almost 16mil to leave after what he did.


I dont know why so many here got there leg humped about Gus but its fun at times to see them scramble and just make up some of the dumbest shite over it. My recreation


There were some big mistakes in his tenure that determined his path. Not sure if they were on him exclusively or from higher ups. Who knows. I wish him well like I did Tubs and Chiz. We certainly keep up with him just like everyone else here. Will be interesting to see how he does stepping up to a bigger division. Recruiting will have to improve and he should be able to handle that



Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 6:19 am to
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stepping up to a bigger division


With Texas and Oklahoma leaving, is the Big 12 still Big?
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