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re: Can someone please give me a benefit of kicking the XP first?
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:20 pm to AA7
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:20 pm to AA7
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what it more important having your team know they’re one score away or knowing whether or not you need an extra possession.
All I’m reading here is you saying it’s a good way to figure out if we are still in the game or if can we head for the showers.
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:22 pm to LanierSpots
I get your point completely. My main argument is that your defense is screwed either way if you miss the conversion.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:25 pm to AA7
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Chex you’re losing me man
I don’t even know how to respond to that it’s so bad
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:26 pm to jangalang
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All I’m reading here is you saying it’s a good way to figure out if we are still in the game or if can we head for the showers.
I mean if the teams giving up because they need a onside kick, they’re giving up when we went down 15.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:27 pm to Weagle25
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I do not believe it would’ve gave us a higher chance to convert no
Umm yeah our players would’ve believed they had a chance and our stadium would’ve been electric.
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I would rather make the decision that gives me the highest chance to win.
Going for two while down 9 doesn’t even give you a higher chance to win. This is just something you fabricated up out of thin air.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:27 pm to jangalang
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Going for two while down 9 doesn’t even give you a higher chance to win.
Who the frick is talking about going for 2 down 9?
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This is just something you fabricated up out of thin air.
No you fabricated that
This post was edited on 11/13/21 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:28 pm to jangalang
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All I’m reading here is you saying it’s a good way to figure out if we are still in the game or if can we head for the showers.
It’s a good way to know if you’re going to need an onside kick or not. I have no problem with the call. We marched it down the field for the first time all half and finally had some momentum on offense. I completely get trying to capitalize on it. I was more upset with the playcall than the decision to go for it.
We can argue this all night guys but there’s a lot bigger things to be pissed about tonight
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:29 pm to Weagle25
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I mean if the teams giving up because they need a onside kick, they’re giving up when we went down 15
You didn’t see injured Bo out there did you. That was literally do or die.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:30 pm to Weagle25
I legit feel like I’m taking crazy pills
Do you guys think we are arguing that we should go for 2 first because we can make up for it by going for 3 on the next TD?
Do you guys think we are arguing that we should go for 2 first because we can make up for it by going for 3 on the next TD?
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:30 pm to AA7
quote:this thread is giving me a headache
Chex you’re losing me man
All we are saying is there really a difference in kicking the XP and then missing the 2 pt conversion after the second TD as opposed to missing the 2 pt conversion after the first TD?
There was zero reason to go for two instead of kicking the extra point. Thats all im sayin. Im reading it as if people are convinced it was a good decision going for 2. to me, the consequences of missing it early were NOT worth the risk. I'll just leave it at that
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:30 pm to jangalang
I hope you’re drunk Jang. You’re making no sense.
Do or die isn’t giving up.
Do or die isn’t giving up.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:33 pm to AA7
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It’s a good way to know if you’re going to need an onside kick or not.
We should never need an onside kick. Less than 1 percent shot to do the following with 4 minutes left:
Get ball back
Score TD
Onside kick
Kick FG
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:34 pm to ChexMix
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the consequences of missing it early were NOT worth the risk.
There is no risk because you have the same chance of getting it if you go for it after the first score or after the second score.
That’s what is meant by you’re going to have to go for 2 eventually. If there was more time on the clock, then you would begin to think about risk because there’s more possible scenarios.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:35 pm to Weagle25
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You’re making no sense.
Neither is your reasoning for going for two.
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Do or die isn’t giving up.
WTF does “ or die” mean to you
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:35 pm to ChexMix
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to me, the consequences of missing it early were NOT worth the risk. I'll just leave it at that
And all I’m saying is the risk is the same if you kick the XP and then miss the 2 point conversion on a following TD.
Again, I didn’t hate the call. We had just finished the only good offensive drive we had all second half and had some momentum. I get the coaches trying to capitalize on it. It didn’t work so it was the wrong call.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:37 pm to Weagle25
quote:No risk, huh. If you cant understand, i am not going to take the time to walk you through it.
There is no risk because you have the same chance of getting it if you go for it after the first score or after the second score.
You either can grasp the logic or you cant.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:37 pm to ChexMix
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There was zero reason to go for two instead of kicking the extra point. Thats all im sayin. Im reading it as if people are convinced it was a good decision going for 2. to me, the consequences of missing it early were NOT worth the risk. I'll just leave it at that
That’s all I’m saying as well. Apparently Harsin thought it was a good idea but he also thought that ridiculous fake punt was smart too.
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:39 pm to AA7
quote:you are ASSUMING we even fricking score a second TD.
And all I’m saying is the risk is the same if you kick the XP and then miss the 2 point conversion on a following TD.
you miss the extra point, then you have to onside kick, then you give them great field position, damn near FG range, a FG makes it three score game and its over
Jesus fellas. Up the football IQ please. This is frustrating
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:41 pm to jangalang
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We should never need an onside kick. Less than 1 percent shot to do the following with 4 minutes left:
Get ball back
Score TD
Onside kick
Kick FG
Bro I’m with you that we don’t want to be in a position to need an onside. My point is explain to me how the following scenario you laid out is any different from this one:
Get ball back
Score TD (miss the 2 pt conversion)
Onside kick
Kick FG
You guys are acting like waiting to go for 2 guarantees that we convert it. Does it really matter if we know the odds are heavily against us with 4 minutes or 1?
Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:42 pm to jangalang
Do or die means I have to execute or we lose. Not sure how you can argue Bo was giving up when we scored a TD.
Execute being the do and losing being the dead. Giving up means you’re already dead. This is the most frustrating argument ever I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make at this point.
Execute being the do and losing being the dead. Giving up means you’re already dead. This is the most frustrating argument ever
I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make at this point.
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