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re: Buccees Mascot Coaching Edition (Former Jet Tracking)

Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:40 pm to
Current Jackson State DC

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During 2008-14, Thurman was the defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach for the New York Jets. In his tenure, he coached Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie and the duo were vital parts of the Jets defense, especially during the Jets' playoff appearances in 2009 and 2010. Under Thurman's coaching, Revis was described as "one of the best" corners in the league. In 2013, Thurman's defense finished with a top-five rushing defense.

From 2002-2007, Thurman coached the defensive backs for the Ravens and was Sanders position coach in 2004-05.

He coached from 1993 to 2000 for his alma mater, the USC Trojans, where he mentored future NFLers Chris Cash, Kris Richard, Daylon McCutcheon, Brian Kelly, and Troy Polamalu.

Thurman played eight seasons with the Dallas Cowboys (1978-85) and St. Louis Cardinals (1986), never missing a contest in his 137-game career. Thurman, who played in Super Bowl XIII as a rookie, made 36 career interceptions and 11 fumble recoveries, scoring five career touchdowns (four INT, one FR). He earned Pro Bowl honors in 1981 after making a career-high nine interceptions.

Thurman was a two time All-American at USC (1976-1977) and was a member of the 1974 national championship team.
Posted by greygoose
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:42 pm to
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You keep responding with messages how the greatest college coaches can get their job done but you’ve yet to tell me how Bill Clark is going to get Tua out of California.

You aren't very bright.

You should probably stop jerking off to pictures of "Prime Time" long enough to think about this.

Your whole argument concerning Sanders, is recruiting. I simply stated that he's recent success with getting a couple of players, would be extremely hard to sustain considering the way he approached their recruitment with the whole HBCU thing. Leave there, then what?

I have no doubt, that Bill Clark would coach circles around "Neon Deion". Why? Because he has a record I can look back at and see what he's done over decades. What's Sanders' claim to fame? He played at a high level, he signed TWO highly recruited players, and he dances on TV with a duck. The jury is way out on whether or not, either one of those players will pan out. Lots haven't, with much better coaching, better facilities, and a massive difference in overall support.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:43 pm to
Analyst at Jackson State:

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Current Jackson State DC


66 years old and coaching at Jackson State......

Hard fall from being the DC for the Jets.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 5:49 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Because he has a record I can look back at and see what he's done over decades.

You mean like 6 years right? Or is high school stronger than SWAC too.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:48 pm to
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How did Saban lying through his teeth about the Dolphins/Bama job effect his integrity with prospects? How did Lincoln Riley’s middle of the night move effect his integrity?
Neither Saban nor Riley made those positions a public crusade like Deion has made JSU and HBCUs.

He’s made a tremendous impact not only at JSU but in the perception of all HBCU football programs. I can’t imagine him undoing all of that positive momentum to walk into a situation with such potential for disaster.

It’s not like he needs to build his brand. And he doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who needs the big school spotlight to boost his ego, which is pretty sky-high as it is.

The only way Sanders comes to AU is if this was his plan all along, and the HBCU stuff us merely a stepping stone. Which would be far more cynical than Saban saying “I’m not going to be the coach at Alabama” in a presser.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:49 pm to
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66 years old and coaching at Jackson State......

He mentored Troy Polamalu, Darrelle Revis, etc.

Who has Bill Clark mentored? What’s he going to sell to his recruits? UAB and high school irrelevance???
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:51 pm to
Deion got rejected by major colleges before. SWAC was just his opportunity to shine.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:57 pm to
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You mean like 6 years right?
I see you really like exposing that low-IQ.

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Clark started his coaching career as an offensive line coach at his alma mater of Piedmont High immediately out of college.[1] From there, he moved to assistant posts at several other high schools until getting his first head coaching job at Prattville High School in Prattville, Alabama.[2] During his tenure at Prattville, Clark compiled an overall record of 106 wins to only 11 losses (106–11) and won back-to-back Alabama High School Athletic Association (AHSAA) state championships in 2006 and 2007.[3] In 2008, Clark was hired to serve as the first defensive coordinator at South Alabama. He stayed in that role through the 2012 season when he was hired as head coach at Jacksonville State.[4] During his only season as head coach at Jacksonville State, Clark led the Gamecocks to their first playoff victories, 49 school records, 13 OVC records and three NCAA records.[5] In January 2014, Clark was hired to serve as the fifth head coach at UAB following the resignation of Garrick McGee.[5][6]

On December 2, 2014, UAB president Ray L. Watts announced that, after commissioning an in-depth inspection of UAB's athletic budget and revenue and how the elimination of football from the athletic program would affect those, UAB had decided to close down the football program in order to save money. On June 1, 2015 news reported that the UAB Blazers football program would be reinstated.[7] That September, Clark and UAB agreed to a five-year contract extension.

However, Clark was left with a bare-bones staff with virtually no players, since the team would not resume play until 2017. According to a 2022 story by ESPN journalist Alex Scarborough,[1]
Clark recruited junior college castoffs since high school players wouldn't give them the time of day. And somehow, someway, it worked. A team that had been snuffed out, a team that had absolutely no business competing at the FBS level, went 8–5 and appeared in the Bahamas Bowl during their first season in 2017.

The Blazers would go on to win the Conference USA (C-USA) West Division in each of the next three seasons, including wins in the 2018 and 2020 C-USA championship games. Clark's final game as Blazers head coach was a win over nationally ranked BYU in the 2021 Independence Bowl, the end of a season that also saw the Blazers open the new Protective Stadium[1] and announce a 2023 move to the American Athletic Conference.[8][9]

After seven years coaching at UAB, Clark resigned in June 24, 2022 citing back problems.[10] He underwent successful spinal fusion surgery shortly after his retirement.[1]
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:01 pm to
So decades of high school and UAB


And you think that’s going to fetch Tua or Bruce.


That adage about forcing a square peg down a round hole. You’re doing it.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19783 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:13 pm to
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Deion got rejected by major colleges before. SWAC was just his opportunity to shine.
Because had zero experience.

I agree with whomever it was who posted earlier ITT, what’s most likely to happen if we pursue Deion is he makes a big deal of turning us down for the sake of his quest to make HBCUs relevant.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:14 pm to
At little ole Jackson State there is a ton of NFL experience and it can only get better with more resources. Even their OL coach is surprisingly pretty good. Please stop with the “Deion has nothing to sell” schtick as if Bill Clark does.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:16 pm to
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I agree with whomever it was who posted earlier ITT, what’s most likely to happen if we pursue Deion is he makes a big deal of turning us down for the sake of his quest to make HBCUs relevant.

It could happen. Even Bill Clark turned us down
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47645 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:20 pm to
Well I mean now what you’re talking about is a different argument.

I was talking about IF he left, him leaving after promoting HBCUs wouldn’t effect his integrity with recruits.

If you want to question whether he’ll leave or not, I can see your point. He might have different motivations.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14776 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:22 pm to
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He mentored Troy Polamalu, Darrelle Revis, etc.

Who has Bill Clark mentored?
He coached them after they made it to the NFL. Who has Sanders gotten to the NFL?

Again, Sanders claim to fame, as far as coaching, is recruiting two players........that's it.

You act you have some kind of personal stake in his hire. I don't care if Sanders is great or not, I'm just analyzing facts and forming an objective opinion. Sanders fan boys have some kind of emotional connection, and won't let logic enter their mind. They want it to be so, so it is, regardless of the lack of evidence.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14776 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:25 pm to
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And you think that’s going to fetch Tua or Bruce.


That adage about forcing a square peg down a round hole. You’re doing it.

You think two years in the SWAC will? Why didn't he go after Arch Manning? Oops... that sales pitch wouldn't exactly work with him. I guess he could point to his latest commercial...
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:28 pm to
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He coached them after they made it to the NFL.


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He coached from 1993 to 2000 for his alma mater, the USC Trojans, where he mentored future NFLers Chris Cash, Kris Richard, Daylon McCutcheon, Brian Kelly, and Troy Polamalu.

Your reading comprehension is piss poor.

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Again, Sanders claim to fame, as far as coaching, is recruiting two players........that's it.

It’s almost like you have some personal stake against this hire just to make up shite.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:29 pm to
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You think two years in the SWAC will

You’re still avoiding answering how Bill Clark can counter Saban’s pitches I see. Sad!
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Why didn't he go after Arch Manning?

Look at our rosters, even the top 2 QBs on the depth chart. Are you personally against having a black head coach?
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47645 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:31 pm to
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You think two years in the SWAC will? Why didn't he go after Arch Manning? Oops... that sales pitch wouldn't exactly work with him. I guess he could point to his latest commercial...

You’re asking why Deion couldn’t get Arch Manning to go to Jack State but not why Bill O’Brien couldn’t get him to Alabama?

The fact that he got any 5 star to Jack State is a miracle and you’re criticizing him for not landing anybody he wants. How do you not see that as comical?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:39 pm to
I’m not in on Prime but Bill Clark is just a poor option.
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