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re: AU BBall Thread : Trainwrecked at 18-14

Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:28 am to
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:28 am to
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GoCrazyAuburn


Just looking out for you. Purifoy said he'd wear one next game after I tweeted him w this picture

Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:31 am to
If Purifoy starts playing better after rocking a sleeve, I'm taking credit for eternity.

If he plays like shite, I'll pretend I never said anything
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:43 am to
The evidence is irrefutable
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:47 am to
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The evidence is irrefutable



We should start a sleeve tradition, similar to USC with jersey numbers.

Need a 3Sleeve + PowerSleeve, give the honor/privilege of wearing it to the players who earn it
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:50 am to
Absolutely. We actually would get tired of the winning.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:55 am to
You're right, the idea would work too well

Got to spice it up with some losses sometime to keep us on our toes
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:00 pm to
According to RPI forecast, we are absolutely screwed RPI wise to close out the season.

if we finish 23-11 or 23-10, our peak RPI is still only around #45
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:45 pm to
If I am reading their history graph correctly, AU has been very consistent in being above is expected rpi all season. Hopefully, that trend plays out in the end.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:27 pm to
We almost for sure will finish above their expected RPI. They use Sagarin probabilities of victory

Adv metrics hate us since we consistently blow 20+pt wins to win by 5. Almost all essentially use scoring margin or some proxy as an indicator of team quality


For example, KenPom ranks Auburn as #5 nationally in the "luck" measurement. Essentially saying Auburn is extremely lucky to be sitting on their current win total based on their actual play


If you were to look at Auburn win probabilities during the course of games however, you'd see that most games Kenpom would view as "luck" /tossup were safely in the bag the entire game



Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:29 pm to
Yea, I've looked into the KenPom ranking system and it is pretty crappy. I get what they are trying to do, but any ranking that has a "luck" factor loses all credibility
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:45 pm to
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but any ranking that has a "luck" factor loses all credibility


There is no "Luck" factor in the rankings. You need to read how he does them before you criticize


Luck is just the deviation in win% from actual results vs kenpom ranking results
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:24 pm to
I have read them. He has a bunch of different ranking systems. I understand the main one he uses is the adjusted margin.

His luck ranking is just plain stupid pure and simple.

I also have an issue with predictive based efficiency rankings. And don't necessarily agree with their home court methodology.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted by AUbagman
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

KenPom ranks Auburn as #5 nationally in the "luck" measurement.


No wonder KenPom blows.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:53 pm to
His luck ranking is simply a ranking of biggest errors in the model. Stupid to call it luck but it isn't a big deal that he puts it out there

Posted by TigerPaw1
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

His luck ranking is simply a ranking of biggest errors in the model. Stupid to call it luck but it isn't a big deal that he puts it out there

I was about to say that. It's a bad label but not a bad metric imo
Posted by AU24
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 12:29 pm to
LINK

Jerry Palm has us as one of the first 4 out. I think we need 22 or 23 wins to get in.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 1:03 pm to
Surprising that Jerry is showing some love considering how he has never once done that for football projections. Having us as a first four out kind of team is kind of a safe pick though, since Auburn getting to 20+ post SECT play looks likely.



We need to get to total 23 wins, we have an outside shot at 22W
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52459 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 1:10 pm to
The NCAA tournament would've been great and is still possible but we cannot even inbound the ball. Getting extra practice by the NIT is going to be just as helpful as going to the tournament. And without a doubt, next year the expectations will and should be NCAA tournament.
Posted by autodd03
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:21 pm to
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At some point before the season is over, will you fricking update the OP? TIA



Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:38 pm to
Ole Miss line is at AU v -4.5 Ole Miss

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