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re: AU BBall Thread : Trainwrecked at 18-14

Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:42 pm to
Oh, that's the sport my 4 year old niece plays. I thought we were talking basketball. My b bro
Posted by Mac5500
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:45 pm to
I specifically edited out basketball from the other posts

Make fun all you want, I had a great day of sports watching
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:19 am to
Had a blast at the game last night. Alabama has a weak crowd and Coleman Coliseum is a poor venue even after its renovation. Their student section sat on and off throughout the game.

They started clearing out with 5 minutes to go as well. Iron Bowl trophy presentation was weak. Saban and football team didn't show up. Auburn didn't send SGA President but instead the Treasurer. And when it came time for him to sing their fight song he just clapped along. It was glorious
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:25 am to
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And when it came time for him to sing their fight song he just clapped along. It was glorious


After the shenanigans their SGA tries to pull every year we've won, he should have sung the AU fight song. Still the guy is a baller for not singing

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Saban and football team didn't show up


F them
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:37 am to
They spent 5 minutes talking about how the Foy trophy represents class amongst the 2 schools.

It felt forced and unnecessary. Like they were trying to take the high road despite the reputation in this rivalry
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 10:38 am
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:43 am to
It's a great tradition and Bama SGA tries to frick it up.

You show up and make it look painful like the rivalry means something.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:44 am to
Also Bama basketball will never be intimidating with Coleman. That place just blows


I love AU arena for how loud it is and not feeling empty even with 10+k in attendance
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:52 am to
Coleman is terrible. Had a fun time. We live and die by the 3.

Like rig said, half time trophy presentation was kind of funny. Can't believe Saban and the team didn't show.

I didn't even realize it was the treasurer. I remember the days when they actually made the SGA President sing and embarrass themselves.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 11:00 am to
I don't know why we live and die by the 3, theoretically we should excel at catch and drive play from our wings

Bruce's system in theory is supposed to flex screen the wings and get them the ball with an off balance trailing defender or mismatch. Guys like Heron/Purifoy/Dunans should be able to catch and drive extremely easily


Instead they catch, pivot and watch the defender get back in position then try to Allen Iverson that shite into the lane

... Excet Purifoy who shoots a 3
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 11:27 am to
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I remember the days when they actually made the SGA President sing and embarrass themselves.
Yep. Then Bama refusing to show up the year there was a snow storm killed the tradition
Posted by Mac5500
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:47 pm to
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Bruce's system in theory is supposed to flex screen the wings and get them the ball with an off balance trailing defender or mismatch. Guys like Heron/Purifoy/Dunans should be able to catch and drive extremely easily
Dunans needs to be told he can't take 3s unless the defender is sitting back waiting for him to drive. 9/46 (19.6%) on the season isn't good enough for him to be taking contested 3s. At this point, he doesn't have an excuse for not executing like he's supposed to.

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Instead they catch, pivot and watch the defender get back in position then try to Allen Iverson that shite into the lane
I have to imagine with Heron that it comes from AAU, but that excuse is wearing thin. He needs to start executing better on both ends of the floor.

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... Excet Purifoy who shoots a 3
Purifoy HAS to start attacking the rim. If it was just him being hesitant coming off the ankle injury that would be one thing, but he has no excuse for the rest of the seaoson. Maybe tell him he can't take a 3 until he's driven and scored/drawn a foul. It's ridiculous that he has almost 2x as many 3pa as 2pa. He had a good game last night, but he'll never be a consistent scoring option if all he does is take 3s.

Also, anyone who attempts a midrange jumper and misses should have to do some kind of punishment.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 1:34 pm to
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I have to imagine with Heron that it comes from AAU, but that excuse is wearing thin. He needs to start executing better on both ends of the floor.


I think it is that + experience. From my understanding, there shouldn't be a time after the flex screen that Heron stops. He immediately has the choice of driving, shooting or passing to an open teammate.

That would require a high BBall IQ of how defenders are reacting AND how to attack their response + where teammates are (well if he ever passed)

Few FR have that natural ability to anticipate defender movement, even fewer can split second recognize how to attack. It is something you can teach by recognizing tendencies etc which is why Bruce does a ton of game film

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Purifoy HAS to start attacking the rim


Hard to judge since his ankle health is still up in the air.

Generally speaking though, if a guy like Riley Norris is guarding our stretch 4, we should have a guaranteed 2pts driving the lane. The fact that Purifoy didn't eevn attempt it is mind boggling



Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 1:40 pm to
In addition to my earlier point, we give our players a ton more freedom in how the plays work. Our plays in theory are dynamic and our players are allowed to make their next move in response instead of defined next step

We encourage our players to not pass up a good opportunity the defense gives us. The downside of that is you get a lot of when our players anticipate wrong and make bad decisions


When you get some talented guys who have a great feel for the game, you end up with Tennessee's teams under Bruce who could score at absurd rates

This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 1:55 pm to
Agreed. Bruce basically said the same thing in Tip-off club right before the season started. He said there will be times that it looks like we have no clue what we're doing because of the freedom he's giving the players to react to the defense.

I think that's why some of us do make a bigger deal about us being young. Experience and anticipation are huge in this offense. This is why I think Ronnie Johnson has been huge for us and why I think Dunans has been a bit disappointing this year.
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Mac5500
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 2:37 pm to
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Few FR have that natural ability to anticipate defender movement, even fewer can split second recognize how to attack. It is something you can teach by recognizing tendencies etc which is why Bruce does a ton of game film
Which is something Heron has mentioned. He'd never studied film like he has this year. Hopefully the understanding starts to grow and he begins to better understand how to better attack (and distribute).
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Hard to judge since his ankle health is still up in the air.
I agree. He probably isn't 100%, and might not get there until the offseason. Ankle sprains are one of those things that, even if it is healthy, he has to get his trust in it back. I'm just saying he has to get that part of his game going as soon as he can. He's been a one dimensional player all season and he didn't have to be.
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I think that's why some of us do make a bigger deal about us being young. Experience and anticipation are huge in this offense.
It also helps to have continuity. Returning 5 starters is a big deal, and we should be able to run the offense more effectively even if we aren't deeper. While making the NCAAT was a nice dream coming off OOC play, we still need to make the NIT and get those extra practices.
Posted by jsmoove
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 3:45 pm to
Interesting. CBS has us on the bubble, and Georgia, Georgetown, and Tennessee are off. Not sure where they're getting the 77 RPI from though. We're 63 on CBS's. Missouri is so bad that UT was banished from the tournament and the bubble on the same night. LINK

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The Tigers (14-8) claw their way, barely, onto the surface of the bubble by winning at Alabama on Saturday night. Bruce Pearl's team has swept the Tide, plus defeated Texas Tech, another bubble team. Tigers have a super steep climb, though.


Wrong RPI and wrong record.


eta: I can't take that idiot serious. He still has Alabama on the bubble and Arkansas out of the tournament.
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 6:33 pm to
No way we are a bubble team
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 6:39 pm to
Teamrankings has us at like 33% chance if we win 22 total

We are going to be lucky to get more than 20 W before postseason play
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:47 pm to
I think we need to win one of MSU and OM plus beat UF to be back on the bubble. Pretty tall order for this team.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:05 pm to
We can't lose more than 2. Realistically we'd be lucky to go 2-1 in next 3 games
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