re: An idiots guide to Auburns coaching hires

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On what? His fricking recruiting? Good job. Again. How did EJ Manuel develop? You do realize DC had other duties than just recruiting, right?

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Yes I fricking know that dipshit he was the QB coach. And he was decent. And you didnt bother to quote my whole statement. He said himself he has to learn Gus' offense and prob wouldnt be calling most of the plays. Him as a WR coach is pretty solid IMO.

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Let's hire Thigpen, Pelton, and Trooper back. They're all great fricking recruiters.

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Where are you getting Pelton is a good recruiter? Name one top prospect this dude has landed on the defensive side of the ball. Your arguement to hire back TPT back is fricking dumb.

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The same thing everyone bitched about the last staff. "Bunch of recruiters and no development."

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I know you are trying to play this "hypocrite" card, but the fact of the matter is you need recruiters. Chizik obviously is not a good head coach and couldn't develop the talent at hand. Im not putting all the blame on the position coaches but Malzahn decided he needed a fresh new staff he's comfortable with. I feel like this has already been discussed.

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I'm glad you pay attention to recruiting.

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Carl lawson ?@CarlCarltp Coach Pelton was a great coach and a great man. I now he would've been a great D line coach

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First off, thats one freaking recruit that he didnt sign. To be a great recruiter, you have to prove you can sign multiple top prospects as well as pick up some underrated talent. Who has he signed thats great? Pelton as a D line coach was terrible. And FYI I already knew Lawson liked Pelton.

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Well done Craig. You made EJ quite the QB.

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Not all QBs can be freaking superstars. Are you serious right now? The kid still won a decent amount of games at QB including 12 in his final year. 25-6 as starter.

HC: B-
OC/QB: N/A (This is Malzahn's show)
DC: B+
RB/ST: A+
WR: A-
TE: B
OL: C+
DL: A
DB: B
S: B-

Failing to see how some have called our RB/ST hire a downgrade or a push.

Offense-better
Defense-impossible to be worse
ST-better

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He coached running backs at Ole Miss but left back in 2000 or 2001 or something and the only notable backs he coached there was Deuce McAllister. He never had another back of any note from any time before either.

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At South Carolina he coached All-SEC runningbacks Brandon Bennett and Rob DeBoer. Bennett finished his USCar career as the second leading rusher in school history behind only Heisman winner George Rogers. Bennett holds the single-game rushing record at Carolina with his 278-yard effort against East Tennessee State in 1991. He also holds the school record for most career catches by a running back, with 111 career receptions (as of 2011).

At Clemson he coached 3-time All-ACC runningback Raymond Priester. Priester set 18 school rushing records, and is the school's all-time leading rusher with 3,966 career rushing yards.

So to re-cap:

@ South Carolina: 2nd leading rusher in school history (Brandon Bennett)
@ Clemson: Leading rusher in school history (Raymond Priester)
@ Ole Miss: Leading rusher in school history (Deuce McAllister)

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Basically, every player from the past 4 classes looks like an average to below average recruit. Congrats on the groundbreaking development. Those 4/5stars Trooper/Luper/Grimes reeled in have really shown on the field, huh? BIG time recruits that have really turned Auburn into a powerhouse, no?

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Ok what about Pelton's recruits?

You know I would love to hear your explanation of what went down instead of posting sarcastic bullshite comments. You obviously act like you know it all. I've stated several times my opinion on the matter.

Explain why the top prospects weren't developed? Was it Chiz or the position coaches or both?

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No shite? Really?

You think these recruits aren't recruited by more than one coach? You believe rivals coaching recruiting profiles?

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Huh? Look man I know you are trying real hard to make me look stupid but everyone who follows recruiting knows this shite. I was pointing out it was not all Pelton's doing.

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Well, in that case. Rodney Garner sucks. And apparently only 5 coaches in America are actively recruiting Carl Lawson.

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Yea did I say Garner sucks? Now you are just being ridiculous. This guy has years of experience recruiting solid recruits to UGA and putting them into the NFL.

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And Pelton also got a commitment from Dee Liner. Yup. Commitments from 2 5*s. According to Rivals, Auburn's only signed 4 5stars over the past 4 classes. 2 of them aren't even on the team anymore and the other has cancer. Yeah, he sucks. All those other recruiters really bringing in the talent.

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Whoa big shite, he got commitments, it doesn't mean shite. Dee is about to flip to Bama and that been in the works for several months it appears and Carl will probably flip as well. :inb4shittyseasoncoachingchange:

Pelton is an average recruiter, end of discussion.
His last class of DL commits were below average IMO.

Why do you keep beating around the bush here? Post what you think of the hires instead of insinuating people are frickin hypocrites. This E-fight is getting old and you haven't proven shite to me so far.

I wanted Petrino, but after that Gus was the next best choice. We needed an Offensive mind and the only other coach that has Gus's reputation as an Offensive Genius would have been Chip Kelly. Gus was the star of Gene's coaching staff and most AU fans would have replaced Gene with Gus after 2010. My only reservation with Gus was his ability to hire a staff that could recruit. I think he far exceeded any expectation with his coaching hires. If EJ can turn the D around, I do not think anyone doubts that AU will have one of the top 5 Offenses in the SEC. I had to eat my words, but Gus has made all the right moves so far.