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re: 2018 Football Recruiting Thread -- Final OP Update Edition
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:17 am to TigerPaw1
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:17 am to TigerPaw1
So here's all the 4-5* DTs since 2007 class
2007 - 4* Kerry Murphy (Bama)
2009 - 4* Brandon Moore (Bama)
2009 - 4* Jamar Travis (Aub)
2009 - 4* Quinton Dial (Bama)
2010 - 4* Kenneth Carter (Aub)
2012 - 4* Justin Shanks (FSU)
2012 - 4* Tyler Nero (Aub)
2013 - 4* Dee Liner (Bama)
2013 - 4* Darius Page (Bama)
2015 - 5* Da'Ron Payne (Bama)
2016 - 4* Quinnen Williams (Bama)
So lemme rephrase that. We haven't signed an instate 4* DT since Gus arrived
2007 - 4* Kerry Murphy (Bama)
2009 - 4* Brandon Moore (Bama)
2009 - 4* Jamar Travis (Aub)
2009 - 4* Quinton Dial (Bama)
2010 - 4* Kenneth Carter (Aub)
2012 - 4* Justin Shanks (FSU)
2012 - 4* Tyler Nero (Aub)
2013 - 4* Dee Liner (Bama)
2013 - 4* Darius Page (Bama)
2015 - 5* Da'Ron Payne (Bama)
2016 - 4* Quinnen Williams (Bama)
So lemme rephrase that. We haven't signed an instate 4* DT since Gus arrived
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 9:18 am
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:27 am to TigerPaw1
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Jamar Travis and Kenneth Carter both signed with AU & were composite 4*s still checking to see who else I might have missed
Tyler Nero I believe was a 4* on 247, pretty sure it was composite too given 4* on RIvals as well
More importantly this stat is kind of garbage since Alabama does not produce many 4* DTs. Most of the 4*+ DT recruits to Bama/AU are OOS recruits
Since 2007, there have been only 11 4*+ DTs and Auburn has got 3 of them. Not great, but not horrible given Alabama's success
07- Murphy - Bama
09- Moore - Bama
09- Travis - AU
09- Dial - Bama
10- Carter - AU
12- Shanks - FSU
12- Nero - AU
13- Liner - Bama
13- Page - Bama
15- Payne- Bama
16- Williams- Bama
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:29 am to TigerPaw1
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So lemme rephrase that. We haven't signed an instate 4* DT since Gus arrived
Basically posted it above but
In the 2014, 2015, 2016 classes there have only been 2 DTs rated 4*+
Quinnen Williams, 1/2 of those, was an AU commit but we didn't seem too upset when he flipped to Bama if I remember correctly
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 9:29 am
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:36 am to GenesChin
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Since 2007, there have been only 11 4*+ DTs and Auburn has got 3 of them. Not great, but not horrible given Alabama's success
Eh kinda my point was to illustrate we have had a hard time landing the top instate DT talent. That list kind of backs it up. Dee Liner and Quinnen Williams were both committed to AU at some point too before flipping. When Garner gets top talent it's usually out of GA but that state has been down at the DT position the past few seasons (2017 & 2018 class) and AU's DT recruiting has taken a bit of a hit because of it. Landing Miller would be a first for Gus's staff against Bama.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:38 am to GenesChin
quote:Correct. Even though 247 ratings are missing for 2012 right now he was a 4* because he is higher on the commit list that Pat Miller & Miller was a 4*. Default list order is by ranking.
Tyler Nero I believe was a 4* on 247, pretty sure it was composite too given 4* on RIvals as well
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:41 am to ellitor
https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-recruiting-jalen-cunningham-top (SECCountry)
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Jalen Cunningham puts Auburn in top 3
College football recruiting can be a funny little game sometimes.
If you had asked Jalen Cunningham three months ago, he’d have told you his college decision was already made. The 330-pound defensive lineman from St. Clair County (Ala.) doesn’t hide the fact he grew up a big Alabama fan, and at one point in his recruitment, it seemed like a sure thing he’d end up with the Crimson Tide.
Alabama remains the projected front-runner, but Cunningham’s recently-released top 3 — Alabama, Ole Miss and Auburn — shows a few programs are making him think.
Auburn’s presence makes that group significant.
Alabama and Ole Miss were expected. Cunningham has always loved the Crimson Tide, and he’s told SEC Country in the past that the Rebels might have the best shot at upending the Tide. But Auburn can be considered a little bit of a surprise. Chalk it up to another example of Rodney Garner working his recruiting magic.
The Tigers didn’t even crack Cunningham’s top 5 when he released it in April. In three months, Auburn has managed to surpass almost all of those suitors.
“It’s crazy. I always thought I would hate going to Auburn, but I really don’t because of this coaching staff,” the lifelong Alabama fan said. “It was really the name Auburn that I hated, but now that I’ve been around them more, I really like it.”
Cunningham still plans to decide before the season, so it’ll be an interesting recruitment to watch.
There’s no question he wants to end up at Alabama, but will the Crimson Tide be interested? A source has told SEC Country that the Alabama staff, in particular, is closely watching Cunningham’s attempts to drop weight. He started the spring at 362 pounds and has already lost 30. That’s a good start.
But will it be enough for Alabama to accept his commitment? That’s the million-dollar question.
I’ve been around Cunningham enough to know his 330 pounds doesn’t look like bad weight. He moves well, and I’ve even seen him run some sprints as part of his weight-cutting effort. Let’s just say there are 295-pound linemen who don’t seem to know how to move their bodies as well as Cunningham moves his.
My Crystal Ball for Cunningham sticks with Alabama, and it’ll remain that way until the Crimson Tide decide to move on, if that happens. If they do, Auburn could gain a big, athletic defensive linemen despite not offering until late in the spring.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:42 am to TigerPaw1
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How Auburn targets fared in 247 rankings
As you may know, we use the 247Sports composite rankings at SEC Country. It aggregates all of the rankings from 247, Scout, Rivals and ESPN into one list. The list below has nothing to do with that composite. It’s strictly the individual rankings by 247Sports.
That service released a new version of its Top 247 prospects. Several Auburn prospects made positive moves on the list. As of now, there aren’t any Tigers commits ranked in the top 247, but there are plenty of targets expected to choose Auburn that could change that fate.
Here are the five most notable changes among Auburn targets.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:42 am to TigerPaw1
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Justin Fields only moved up one spot, but boy, was it a big spot. Fields overtook longtime top prospect Trevor Lawrence for the No. 1 overall spot. Both quarterbacks are deserving of No. 1, but Fields’ most recent performance at the Nike Opening sealed the deal. It’ll be Lawrence’s job to take it back when the pads get put back on for the football season.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:42 am to TigerPaw1
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Two of Auburn’s targets in the front seven — defensive end Azeez Ojulari and linebacker Channing Tindall — launched into the top 25. Tindall jumped from No. 45 to No. 22. Ojulari made a big move, from No. 180 to No. 25.
I still don't understand the Ojulari jump. Dude's good but not that good imo
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:42 am to TigerPaw1
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Tight end target Luke Ford is one of the biggest movers. He cruised up 67 spots to No. 64 on the list. That move makes Ford one of the top three tight ends in the nation.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:43 am to TigerPaw1
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Justyn Ross, for some reason, plummeted down the list from No. 47 to No. 138. Harold Joiner also dropped a few spots from No. 56 to No. 68. But Joiner’s drop, much smaller than Ross’, made it so there was a new No. 1 prospect in the state of Alabama, per 247Sports. That designation now goes to Joiner.
No reason for Ross to fall out of the top 100. That's just dumb. He might not be 5* worthy but he's a for sure top 100 player
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:43 am to TigerPaw1
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The only prospect in the top 100 who I would consider a more-than-likely bet to land in Auburn’s class is wide receiver Matthew Hill at No. 87, which was an eight-spot drop. That’s not to say others — Fields, Tindall, Ojulari, Ford, Joiner, Trey Hill or JJ Peterson — won’t choose the Tigers, but Hill certainly has the highest chance.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:44 am to TigerPaw1
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Other key Auburn visits this week
In the Monday notebook, readers got a taste of the big week to come with visits. Justin Fields and Kearis Jackson plan to throw in Jordan-Hare Stadium, which will likely go down as the biggest visit combo this summer. Quindarious Monday returns to the Plains, as well.
But SEC Country has gathered a few more expected visitors this week. There will inevitably be more, and you’ll be delivered those tidbits as they come to our attention.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:44 am to TigerPaw1
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4-star wide receiver Matthew Hill from Brookwood High (Ga.) has been on commit watch list for a while. It’s not expected that he’ll commit when he’s on campus Wednesday and Thursday, but it’s also not out of the question. Hill is a big piece of the Fields puzzle. Yes, Jackson and Fields have been the ones talking most publicly about their hopes of playing college ball together. But Hill and Fields have known each other for a while and have expressed to each other privately the possibility of teaming up to play in college. Hill is expected to throw with Fields and Jackson, too.
Interesting....
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:45 am to TigerPaw1
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3-star running back Kavosiey Smoke caught the attention of several coaching staffs this spring. Auburn is one of them. Smoke is the No. 716 overall prospect in the nation, listed as an athlete. The Tigers are still in the game for other running backs — Asa Martin, Dameon Pierce and Harold Joiner. Smoke will visit Tuesday. If he’s offered, that’ll give an indication into how Auburn feels about its other targets, as well as their rising impression of Smoke.
Honestly I would be happy with this kid. Not flashy but solidly built, runs hard and would be a solid fit in our system. Not a bad backup option to have on the table
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:45 am to TigerPaw1
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JUCO offensive lineman Badara Traore is close to making a college decision. He has a top 7 of Ohio State, Nebraksa, Oregon, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, LSU and Auburn. The 6-foot-6, 315-pound offensive lineman will take his official visit to Auburn over the weekend. He’ll arrive Friday and leave Sunday.
I think he's all LSU but we will see
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:50 am to TigerPaw1
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my point was to illustrate we have had a hard time landing the top instate DT talent.
We have a hard time landing the top "instate talent" for any position when Alabama makes them a priority
There isn't much difference for DT recruiting compared to other positions
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Dee Liner and Quinnen Williams were both committed to AU
If you remember, Quinnen Williams was the weird situation where he "committed" and our coaches didn't know / accept his commitment right away. We didn't fight hard to keep him
Dee Liner was clearly gone when Chiz got fired.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:51 am to GenesChin
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We have a hard time landing the top "instate talent" for any position when Alabama makes them a priority
There isn't much difference for DT recruiting compared to other positions
Fair enough. What I was trying to emphasize is this would be a big time pull for that exact reason. It's a top instate talent that Bama really wants. Just used poor wording to get to that point
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:53 am to GenesChin
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This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:10 am to TigerPaw1
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Honestly I would be happy with this kid. Not flashy but solidly built, runs hard and would be a solid fit in our system. Not a bad backup option to have on the table
Don't you think we have enough of these "project", "back up" running backs already? Time for some fricking talent
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