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Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:04 pm to
Taquoan Graham - DT Texas
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:11 pm to
Scouting report I read had him with a 6th grade, but the Falcons were 1 of 4 teams listed for him as a good landing spot.
Posted by rebel cat
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:19 pm to
AJ is a nice sign.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 5:46 pm to
Laughably bad draft. I called it.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

Laughably bad draft. I called it.


Again I'll ask, what would you of done differently?

You avoided this same question this morning.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 6:03 pm to
What would you have done differently?
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9407 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 6:16 pm to
If you're going to take a DB at 40 in the second round, why not take the top take the CB in the draft in round one instead? Then you take a TE at the end of the draft with the stupid WR pick. We could have traded back in round one and still got a better DB than a fricking UCF player. We didnt address our pass rush at all, and the way we addressed our OL issues was to draft a T and ask him to slide inside and play out of his college position.

We didn't need to draft a fricking WR after already taking Pitts. Again, we didn't even address the pass rush. We could have also used a LB.

Just a trash draft all around. Wonder what the said paid TF on the way outta town. Makes you think...

ETA Fixed my post, CB and DB were autocorrected.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 11:06 am
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9407 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 6:25 pm to
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Is this another one of your jokes that no one gets




I can't help it that people are too stupid to know a joke when they are told it is a joke.

This is definitely not a joke. We got one solid player. The rest won't play.
This post was edited on 5/1/21 at 6:26 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

If you're going to take a CB at 40 in the second round, why not take the top take the DB in the draft in round one instead? Then you take a TE at the end of the draft with the stupid WR pick. We could have traded back in round one and still got a better CB than a fricking UCF player.


Richie Grant is a safety, not a corner, and a lot of people had him graded as the highest safety on the board. Thank you for proving, once again, that you are a retard.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34336 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:18 pm to
Dude, there were so many holes on the defense that they weren't gonna fix them all in one draft. One theory is they concentrated on the back end of the defense this year, next year will be the front 7.

quote:

why not take the top take the DB in the draft in round one instead?

B/c they took the best player in the draft in Kyle Pitts.

Why don't you call Arthur and offer your services since you know so much?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34336 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

We got one solid player. The rest won't play.

This is laughable.

And it's been bookmarked.
Posted by Dawgfan247
Member since Jan 2021
1900 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

We could have traded back in round one and still got a better CB than a fricking UCF player.

You're putting too much emphasis on what school they're from. We had a great draft.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 11:48 pm to
Yiiiikes. Hot take time machine.

They didn't take a Corner at 40... it was a Safety. While I preferred Moehrig over Grant, it wasn't a bad pick there.

If you're attempting to compare Pitts, arguably one of the most impressive players in the draft, and easily the best available at his position by a significant margin to "a TE at the end of the draft", I think you might do well to just sit this one out.

We didn't address our pass rush because frankly, this was a weak draft for pass rushers. Were it not for injury/medical concerns with Azeez, there's a chance we might have gone after him in the 2nd, but who did you want us to target for pass rush and where? If you wanted to create interior pressure, we could have not traded back in the 2nd and grabbed Barmore, but he's been noted as a guy with inconsistent effort/drive throughout his entire time in Tuscaloosa. He didn't have much football experience prior to that. If he doesn't have drive now, how do you think an NFL contract is going to improve that? If you're thinking edge, I'm not sure who you wanted and when if it wasn't Azeez?

As to OL, I'm pretty well resigned to us screwing up OL picks. But to criticize drafting a tackle to slide inside is a little silly. It's common, and as long as you're not taking a sloppy tackle, and instead grabbing someone who really either - 1) looks like a great fit at Guard but just happened to be the best available tackle on their team (ie. Salyer for us) or 2) has Tackle upside, but may be able to contribute at guard earlier - it's not only a potentially smart move, but it's fairly common.

And seriously... are we really criticizing a 6th round pick? And you wanted them to take a Linebacker there? Note: No LB was drafted for another 23 picks after Darby was selected... All 3 line backers drafted in the 6th round were considered undersized/less than ideal candidates with high likelihood of career backup ceilings. For the Falcons, I'd rather see us take a guy with developmental 2-3rd receiver potential than developmental 4-5th LB potential.

This draft was *never* in a million years going to address all needs. I may question a couple of the selections, but on the surface it's inarguably one of the best managed drafts I've seen us conduct in the past decade plus. There was no patented Thomas Dimitroff "shoot yourself in the dick" reach moments.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 1:45 am to
I realize that this is pretty much the happy season when it comes to talking about potential of picks and udfa pickups, but this looks to be a pretty impressive UDFA haul:

quote:

JR Pace DB Northwestern

Marcus Murphy S Mississippi State

Javian Hawkins RB Louisville
(Seems like he was targeted as the RB all along, they just identified that they didn't need to use a pick to land him. Looks like a great 3rd down option.)

Eli Howard DL Texas Tech

Alani Pututau DL Adams St

Antonio Nunn WR Buffalo

Caleb Huntley RB Ball St

Ryan Neuzil OG App St

Errol Thompson LB Mississippi State

Bryce Hargrove OL Pittsburgh

Feliepe Franks QB Arkansas
(I'm not holding my breath for him to learn how to play QB better, but we know he's got a cannon of an arm. If he can osmote something resembling Football IQ from Matt Ryan, I'll take it. )

John Raine TE Northwestern

Dorian Etheridge LB Louisville

Kion Smith OL Fayetteville St

Austin Trammel WR Rice

Jack Batho IV OL South Dakota School of Mines

Zac Dawe DL BYU

Dwayne Johnson Jr S San Diego St

Joe Sculthorpe OL NC St

Kobe Jones Edge Mississippi State
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28897 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Caleb Huntley RB Ball St

Big back with super quick feet. Surprised he wasn’t drafted.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9407 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:13 am to
My point was why take the 5th or 6th best DB in the draft at pick 40 when CB is a bigger position of need and we could have had the best CB in the draft at pick 9 plus pick a TE with the extra later round pick. We could have gotten a serviceable TE much later and STILL gotten griffin at 40.

FFS y'all are brain dead.

You think you have a gotcha on the autocorrect and didn't even address the point.

And still no one addressed the fact that we didn't do enough to address the pass rush.

We're fricked and yall know it.

This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 11:19 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44703 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:21 am to
quote:

My point was why take the 5th or 6th best DB in the draft at pick 40 when CB is a bigger position of need and we could have had the best CB in the draft at pick 9 plus pick a TE with the extra later round pick. We could have gotten a serviceable TE much later and STILL gotten griffin at 40.

FFS y'all are brain dead.


We picked 4, not 9. Drafting Surtain at 4 would have been grounds to run Fontenot out on a rail. I don't think you understand the difference between Pitts and every other TE in this draft. He has a chance to be in the Gronk/Kelce pantheon of TEs.

So you seem to think that they could have patched up some holes in this draft and been a playoff team in 2021. That's the disconnect.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 11:23 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29148 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

But to criticize drafting a tackle to slide inside is a little silly.


They were even talking about Sewell starting his NFL career at guard depending on who drafted him.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34336 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:31 am to
quote:

My point was why take the 5th or 6th best DB in the draft at pick 40 when CB is a bigger position of need and we could have had the best CB in the draft at pick 9 plus pick a TE with the extra later round pick.

We tried to trade down, but it takes two to tango.

Apparently the offers were not very good.
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