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re: So many threads about new coaches

Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:22 pm to
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would I get a pass for missing my deadline by about 3 fricking years?


Possibly

Depends on all of the liberal regulations and hoops you have to jump through. The EPA can string your arse along so far that man will be able to hover across the creek before they give you approval.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:24 pm to
Luckily for Bielema the EPA has no authority in college football. He has no excuses.

ETA: Maybe my analogy wasn't so good. Lol. I remember the Clabber Creek and Ruple Road bullshite when all that was going on. The EPA can be a pretty big pain in the arse.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:29 pm to
Dick pain, major dick pain
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:34 pm to
This is true. I wish we could go back to just dumping all our garbage off in the nearest hollar like my dad's generation did.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:49 pm to
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That win on Saturday really pissed you off huh?
hell no I never root against the hogs. Got way to much love for this team. But bielema has proven what he is and that's not gonna be good enough to get us above 5-7. I know this because I understand football. You may not and that's ok everyone needs casual fans too just let the grown ups do the talking
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:52 pm to
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You always bring up "current year" but that's not an argument. You can use that at any point in a coach's tenure after year 1.


I think the point that BoarEd is trying to make is that there should be some level of consistency in year 5.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:58 pm to
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With the number of injuries to top players
how many games do we win if we have Cornelius and pulley? Everyone else who got hurt did so after all the losses started too pile up so fatass can only use these two for injuries excuse and idk if a corner and reciever is gonna change the outcome of games that were decided by 21+ points.
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if we make a bowl game* he won't be fired. That's a guarantee.

*even at 5-7.
if this is true than bert and long have killed our football program. Idk about you but I actually have a little bit more respect for the university of Arkansas football team than to just be satisfied with making a bowl in year 5. I'd be ok with it if he won 9 or 10 last year or the year before but every year can't be a rebuilding year. He's had 5 years to get us over just making a bowl and he hasn't done it. Unless you think we're the equivellanr of vandy or Kentucky and should just be happy with making a bowl every year then you should want him gone.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:09 pm to
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I think the point that BoarEd is trying to make is that there should be some level of consistency in year 5.


We saw consistent improvement for 4 years. This is a bump in the road and all of our best players are injured.

At what point does the current year "argument" become irrelevant? What if a coach does well for 9 years and then has a bad season in year 10? Should he be fired?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:17 pm to
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e saw consistent improvement for 4 years
8-5 followed by 7-6 followed by 5-7 is the exact opposite from consistent improvement. Member a few weeks ago when I accused you of defending bielema and you said you never did that? I member
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Idk about you but I actually have a little bit more respect for the university of Arkansas football team than to just be satisfied with making a bowl in year 5.


You may respect the team, but you obviously have no idea how big of an operation an SEC football program is if you want to fire Bielema for making a bowl. It's not like firing a sign spinner at the mattress store. There are hundreds of people involved and a 15 million dollar buyout to think about. Plus a coaching search, getting the new coach's staff and families in place, etc. It's not as simple as some of you guys make it out to be.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:21 pm to
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We saw consistent improvement for 4 years. This is a bump in the road and all of our best players are injured.

At what point does the current year "argument" become irrelevant? What if a coach does well for 9 years and then has a bad season in year 10? Should he be fired?


What players are you referring to? AA? BB is directly responsible for this because of that shite Oline. We have no depth at the position and is a main reason we haven't been able to move the ball. This has been an issue for the last 2 years. You can't throw Ragnow in there because it's only been one game.

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We saw consistent improvement for 4 years


Have we? Hows that run D been progressing?



Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:22 pm to
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8-5 followed by 7-6 followed by 5-7 is the exact opposite from consistent improvement.


I said 4 years, you picked 3 and not even the right ones. Is your mind ok?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:27 pm to
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You may respect the team, but you obviously have no idea how big of an operation an SEC football program is if you want to fire Bielema for making a bowl. It's not like firing a sign spinner at the mattress store. There are hundreds of people involved and a 15 million dollar buyout to think about. Plus a coaching search, getting the new coach's staff and families in place, etc. It's not as simple as some of you guys make it out to be.
this is all so sad. you sound like a pussy. You're basically saying it's too much of a hassle for us to go out and get a coach who's actually decent and can win ball games and we should just be satisfied with a 6 or 7 win football program
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:30 pm to
Sounds like someone who's friends with a member of the staff or something because otherwise it makes no sense to me.

Let's not be proactive and just sit back and wallow in something I'm not sure is even at the level of mediocre.

Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:39 pm to
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15 million dollar buyout
not really
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:44 pm to
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What players are you referring to?


Rawleigh Williams retired from football. He was the leading rusher in the SEC in 2016. That was a big loss.

Dre Greenlaw was injured all summer, along with Jared Cornelius.

Ryan Pulley was our best player on defense. Out for the season after game one and then we had to start a true freshman against TCU.

Kevin Richardson was out for A&M, and that's also when Cornelius got injured again.

Plus Austin which is kind of a big one.

Combine all the injuries to our best players with a front loaded schedule and we had a bad start.

We still have 4 games left and a chance to make a bowl and get the players some free shite, so I'm just trying to support the team and hope for the best. Seems like a lot of folks just have an insatiable blood lust and like to see people get fired though. There is a portion of our fan base that is disappointed that we beat Ole Miss because they think it helps Bielema. That's pure insanity.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:44 pm to
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but you obviously have no idea how big of an operation an SEC football program is if you want to fire Bielema for making a bowl.


And? People are either donating or getting paid for the privilege to do that. No one is forcing them to do that job.

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There are hundreds of people involved and a 15 million dollar buyout to think about.


It shouldn't be that high. A smaller number means fewer problems.

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Plus a coaching search, getting the new coach's staff and families in place, etc.

Coaches problems. They are paid VERY well to deal with these sort of things.

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:47 pm to
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Rawleigh Williams

Irrelevant because of Oline
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Ryan Pulley

Wouldn't help in stopping the run
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Plus Austin which is kind of a big one

Result of poor Oline

That leaves Greenlaw who has playing all year and Cornelius. Does having Cornelius mean we win another game or 2? Nope
Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:50 pm to
I think stone, besides being a welcher, is a guy with an agenda for his buddy bert
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:51 pm to
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Does having Cornelius mean we win another game or 2? Nope


Having Pulley would.

As for your other points, I said our best players have been injured, which is a fact. You can try to spin it any way you want but we've had a lot of injuries to great players and that's not up for debate.
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