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re: Ok. Excluding who the next coach is or whatever.

Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:57 pm to
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He wont ever coach again after this.


He will coach again, just not in the SEC.
Never underestimate what an agent can do.

It's a money grab for both parties, both parties win.

Posted by Feral
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:59 pm to
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I heard from a BM donor that Bert's agent said pay or we walk.



No doubt that happened, but Long got absolutely played in that deal. That's when you counterpunch by pointing at the record and SEC losing streak.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:08 pm to
I have read that 4-5 times, and finally I think I get it.

When he signed the new contract, his agent said "Pay it or we walk"

right? That is what the agents are paid to do, I don't blame anyone but the AD for that decision. The agent did his job and got the security for his client.

Now... Here we are, JL could have lowered the choices for CBB or let him walk. He supposedly has that "list" of possible coaches at all times...

Welp@???
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:33 pm to
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right? That is what the agents are paid to do, I don't blame anyone but the AD for that decision. The agent did his job and got the security for his client.

Now... Here we are, JL could have lowered the choices for CBB or let him walk. He supposedly has that "list" of possible coaches at all times...

Welp@???


That's where Long has to understand the coaching landscape and say to himself "who exactly is coming after a coach with a 10-15 record, coming off a 6-6 season, who's been getting his shite pushed in in the SEC for the last two years."
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 7:20 am to
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Now... Here we are, JL could have lowered the choices for CBB or let him walk. He supposedly has that "list" of possible coaches at all times...


You know this as fact Rev?

Asking for a friend

Posted by Feral
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 7:45 am to
Long has mentioned publicly before that he has a list of a potential coaching candidates if needed in a pinch.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 7:55 am to
If there is an AD in America that doesn't have a list, then they are worse than Jeffrey

Edit: Not just in Athletics, but in everything, you should wake up each day figuring out ways to improve the situation you control
This post was edited on 10/21/17 at 7:57 am
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:14 am to
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If there is an AD in America that doesn't have a list, then they are worse than Jeffrey

Edit: Not just in Athletics, but in everything, you should wake up each day figuring out ways to improve the situation you control



Agreed, and it's why I laugh when members of the sports media start serving up the "well if you fire [insert coach], who are you going to get?" nonsense. Most AD's around the country, at least those worth half a shite, always have a list of potential coaching replacements, and they don't just start the process the minute the current coach is fired.

The only AD who did that recently was Joe Alleva at LSU, and it showed in how he conducted their coaching search last year.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:41 pm to
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Really, the only complete mess the new coach will have on his hands will be to overhaul strength & conditioning (Herb is the worst S&C coach in the conference) and fumigate the losing culture from our program and instill some mental toughness.


THIS ^^^ will be the biggest issue a new coach has to face in righting this ship, other than the O-line (and D-line to a lesser extent).

It's crazy how much worse a culture of losing can make a team and players individually, just see some of these long-term losing teams in the NFL and all their early draft picks somehow forgetting how to play football. It's taking the Lions about 10 years to slowly dig out of that losing culture that was their franchise for so long and they're STILL not all the way past it. Idk if the Browns will ever be able to be good, even if the owners and coaches are changing.

Luckily that hasn't set in here completely and seems to be less existent in the college football universe, but the bit that's crept in over the years will have to be removed before we can really reach full potential.

The lines are an equally daunting issue, but that can be repaired by recruiting line-heavy classes at first and bringing in some top-tier coaches, i.e. fixes that are palpable and quantifiable.

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