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Posted on 11/10/18 at 7:11 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 11/10/18 at 7:11 pm to Stonehog
quote:Saying someone did something wrong in a certain scenario isn't claiming they're overall more qualified or smarter than the other person. Using other coaches as reference points isn't inserting myself in that way at all. Letting Texas play out the last 12 seconds of the game freely up 3 was not the right call and the actions of other coaches validates that.
Stop trying to act like you're smarter than a coach with decades of experience.
It's time to stop pretending we don't have Mike's shite completely figured out by now. It's year 9. The talent he gets here he does not refine and improve upon much at all. The overall game IQ on the floor is usually below average unless there is senior leadership present and even then it's questionable. The signs of talented, yet poorly coached basketball teams have been there for a decade.
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:58 am to Stonehog
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I remember Vandy fouling Macon and then he made all three free throws and we won the game.
This is exactly the problem.
Hindsight coaching is fricking stupid. AT THE TIME it happened, Texas hadn't hit a bucket in like 10 minutes. Meanwhile, fouling makes the game a free throw shooting contest, and as Drewbie himself said, our team was barely hitting one out of every two from the line.
It was the right call to force a deep and contested three. Everything that had happened in the game to that point indicated he wouldn't make that shot.
In the rearview though, the dude made it and it's a chance for idiots to bitch about the coaching.
Foul with 10 seconds left. They hit both and then foul you immediately. Your three point lead becomes a 2 point lead and they still have time to run another play.
Bitches gonna bitch.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:00 pm to Drewbie
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It's year 9.
No it isn't.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:10 pm to BoarEd
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Foul with 10 seconds left
There is a debate to be had but even the people who are arguing for a foul wouldn't say foul at 10 seconds
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:16 pm to rockiee
If the idea is to foul to keep them from shooting a three you have to do it quickly or they'll just shoot a frickin three. They got the ball with 12 seconds left. If the goal was to foul, we would have fouled with around 10 on the clock.
Either way, forcing a 23' shot with a hand in the dudes face was perfectly acceptable and that shot was like a 9/10 on the difficulty level. I am perfectly happy with that coaching decision.
On the other hand, I agree with the second point in the OP. Call a timeout on the final possession to advance the ball to half court. That was an actual coaching fail. Forcing a three was not. Simple as that.
Either way, forcing a 23' shot with a hand in the dudes face was perfectly acceptable and that shot was like a 9/10 on the difficulty level. I am perfectly happy with that coaching decision.
On the other hand, I agree with the second point in the OP. Call a timeout on the final possession to advance the ball to half court. That was an actual coaching fail. Forcing a three was not. Simple as that.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:23 pm to BoarEd
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If the idea is to foul to keep them from shooting a three you have to do it quickly or they'll just shoot a frickin three.
No, you can certainly wait for less time than that. I'm not saying you can foul them under 5 seconds. It happens all the time. They reached half court around 6 seconds. You can definitely foul them under 10 seconds without them throwing up a half court shot.
I'm not going to go much further with this topic though because it was only one aspect of the game and I there were other issues that were just as important imo.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:29 pm to rockiee
In any event, people were acting like they can't understand why coaches don't foul there, but I just explained exactly why we didn't.
If your team isn't shooting fouls worth a shite, it may not be wise to turn the game into a foul shooting contest.
If your team isn't shooting fouls worth a shite, it may not be wise to turn the game into a foul shooting contest.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:46 pm to BoarEd
If your coach can't get in the sweet 16 after 7 years, he should be fired.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:47 pm to ArHog
Maybe, or maybe not. Luckily for those of us who recognize how good a coach this dude is, the maybe nots win out.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:50 pm to BoarEd
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I just explained exactly why we didn't.
Sure, you explained the reasons why they didn't and there are reasons why they should as well.
That being said, this doesn't really apply to you but some posters have such a hard time throwing any criticism at a coach. I guess some think they have to present a certain coach in perfect way to defend him. Every coach makes mistakes and there is nothing wrong with pointing that out. On the flip side there are plenty of posters who won't give certain coaches any type of credit when things go right. It is very odd to me. I guess that is just human nature to dig in on a certain side.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:53 pm to rockiee
I agree. Like, when you point out that Arkansas held Texas to 19% from the field for the second half and someone says, "no they didn't. They switched to a zone and that's what caused it."
Like, is that even a serious reply? It's almost mind numbingly stupid.
Like, is that even a serious reply? It's almost mind numbingly stupid.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:59 pm to BoarEd
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Like, when you point out that Arkansas held Texas to 19% from the field for the second half and someone says, "no they didn't. They switched to a zone and that's what caused it."
Sure, that was a good change by Mike. Depending on the zone, teams are really going to struggle against it if they can't make their outside shots.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 1:05 pm to rockiee
I expect we will see that zone a lot this year. I love the length we have at the guard positions. I would be tempted to run a zone the entire time with these guys. They're long and fast. Like you said, if the other team isn't hitting shots from the perimeter, that defense will shut them the hell down.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:09 pm to BoarEd
You can't advance the ball in college basketball
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:12 pm to cubsfan5150
Well that's dumb.
OK then. No complaints with his coaching.
OK then. No complaints with his coaching.
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