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re: Ky Madden Ladies and Gentelman

Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13482 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:24 pm to
not here to talk about basketball but i'm gonna say my job is better than your job

okay thanks that's my story
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:27 pm to
I didn't even read the thread but it's gotten to a point when I'm tired of even talking about Madden- I feel bad because I never have positive thoughts towards him at all. I almost feel sorry for him now- sorta maybe or something. The end of regulation was just total gross gag vomit.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:29 pm to
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The easiest fix on defense is to quit allowing them to switch on screens, but the next gripe will be the results of doing so.



I've actually thought the same, myself. Portis ends up having to guard PG's way too often. It's a great recipe to lose him to early foul trouble and allow until amounts of offensive rebounds.

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Instead of bitching about it happening, give credit to the opposing teams who have been able to use this to tier advantage via the mismatches the create.



Why? How about expecting my million dollar + coach to make in game adjustments?

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Look at the stat sheets, do some simple math, rotation starts to be come more clear.

I get it a few of the players are like lightening rods for the fanbase, I see this here, on other boards, and on social media, their one mistake in a game is remembered, their several other contributions are ignored or forgotten.


Rightfully so. What motive do Hog fans have for WANTING to be miserable? You think we're complaining about all of this stuff because we have some kind of agenda against coach? You're not the only person capable of drawing conclusions based on what we see during games.

What should I be looking for? I'm guessing Watkins' stats pale in comparison to Madden's, but he brings 2 things that Madden doesn't. Smart play and hard-nosed defense. Madden does more to disrupt the offense than he does to aid it, so any perceived benefit he offers over Watkins seems to be moot, IMO.

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You mention screen, but fail to notice it doesn't matter how good or bad a screen is if the spacing is so poor it allows help off the screen with no back cuts to take advantage. You can coach that all you want, its a mental break down in the game, it doesn't always occur, but again people remember the negative after a loss more so than the positive plays which are forgotten.



There's a fundamental difference. You assume that they work on setting sound screens extensively in practice. I don't. I think the piss-poor execution (regardless of spacing, which is another issue) is indicative of a lack of practice/attention to detail.

And I'm not even focusing on any single plays. In fact, I've done the opposite. A turnover with 0:05 seconds left is no less important than a turnover with 19:55 left. We need better execution throughout games, offensively and defensively.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Hubbhogg
Our AD Sucks
Member since Dec 2010
13545 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:43 pm to
Our defense is a joke. Bottom line, and we get out rebounded by everybody during crucial times. Shitty coaching on both fronts
Posted by John Quincy Poodle
Hogville Trash Can
Member since Nov 2014
528 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:12 pm to
The team is terrible, madden blows (been saying it since he got here)...

Overrated street ball.. its disgusting to watch
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:03 pm to
Madden=Gary Earvin without the squeaky voice
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
53206 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:59 pm to
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dale denton you are seriously the wrost poster of any poster i've ever seen on the entire internet. you're parents must have been like some of the original internet trolls or some shite the amount of trolling you do on a constant basis. then you walk around acting like you know shite that you don't know.

a.
b. he wasn't talking to you
c.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
53206 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:16 pm to
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Bottom line is that we still struggle heavily on the road though

all SEC teams not named Kentucky do fwiw
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:29 pm to
This
Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
4671 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:38 pm to
MA is a good coach guys. Not the best, but good none the less. and better than our previous couple of coaches. We are not going to win every game. We are going to have bad games, players, yada yada yada. Stop freaking out. We are getting better. Ky is just sloppy and makes bad decisions sometimes. Just like any other player, coach, or human.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2557 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:36 am to
The better teams all over the country that make deep tourny runs play well on the road. They at the very least don't just chalk up losses for the majority of them. You saying that the majority of the conference sucks on the road doesn't ease my worries about our program. I want to be as little like most of their basketball programs as possible since most of them are not good, consistent basketball teams. Is that so unreasonable to ask in year four? To not lose to bad teams who won't make the tourny in a half full arena?
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
53206 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:47 am to
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The better teams all over the country that make deep tourny runs play well on the road.

Well in that case, there's only 8 or 16 teams out of all the teams in men's college basketball that will consistently play well on the road this year. The group of basketball programs that can reload and get back to the sweet 16 or elite 8 on a regular basis is even smaller.

I'm not saying Arkansas fans are unrealistic, but...
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24011 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:12 am to
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I'm not saying Arkansas fans are unrealistic, but...


finish the quote... it is too early/late for me to do it myself.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:55 am to
Hey guys, how bout dem Saints?!?!


Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
4671 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 7:14 am to
Saints fan here. I also wish I could enjoy the cowboys, but im not even gonna go there.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:00 am to
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Saints fan here.


I'm sorry..

me too, but thank God, only since the 60's...
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
5075 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:24 am to
I'm a Chiefs fan. The similarities on offense between the Chiefs and the Razorbacks this year are freaky. I get to experience the pain on Saturday then experience the same pain again on Sunday.

Posted by BarkRuffalo
Boston, MA
Member since Feb 2014
1206 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:32 am to
Family's from NOLA, gramps was a fan through the tough times.

Story goes that he donated some money when the new stadium was being built, and in return, he got a square yard of turf, which was made into a lamp with a Saints helmet on it. Any idea if this is true, OG?

He died before I met him, so it's the one thing I'll get from my parents in the future to remember him by.
Posted by Miz Piggy
La Petite Roche
Member since Jan 2012
3171 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:04 am to
I started yelling at the screen with about a minute to play. Hubby looked at me and said "Relax. We're still up by 4 (or 6, whatever it was at the time)."

I don't think he's really been paying attention.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:33 am to
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I'm not saying Arkansas fans are unrealistic, but...



What IS realistic, so we can know when it's appropriate to be angry?
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