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Farmer's Co-Op becoming a mixed-use development.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:36 pm
This is interesting news, but also another part of Fayetteville's small-town vibe going down the shitter.
That area of town is going to be the next Dickson Street, with this, and the new stuff across the street to the north.
Buy yo' southside ghetto properties now while they still semi-affordable.
That area of town is going to be the next Dickson Street, with this, and the new stuff across the street to the north.
Buy yo' southside ghetto properties now while they still semi-affordable.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:46 pm to wmr
How close is this to the homeless camp they were planning to build?
Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:53 pm to GoldenSombrero
The homeless thing is down south of 15th I believe. This is at 6th ( I mean MLK) and South School.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 5:48 pm to wmr
There are also preliminary plans for a 7-story, 600 unit apartment building behind fricking EZ Mart at Razorback Rd and MLK. Moar parking woes for Baum.
Not as significant, the old Keytronics lot is going to be another student housing development, called Aspen Heights or some such shite.
Baum will need a parking garage before 2022.
Not as significant, the old Keytronics lot is going to be another student housing development, called Aspen Heights or some such shite.
Baum will need a parking garage before 2022.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:01 pm to wmr
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Baum will need a parking garage before 2022.
Yeah it does. The parking lot to the NW isn’t bad but it’s a little bit of a hike.
Are people allowed to build houses in Fayetteville anymore? Seems the quota on apartments should have been exceeded 2 years ago. It’s a shame how crappy all those areas will become in 5-10 years.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:34 pm to wmr
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That area of town is going to be the next Dickson Street, with this, and the new stuff across the street to the north.
Wtf no it won't. It's basically a warehouse at the moment. And I remember what the the co-op used to be too. You're overreacting
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:45 am to Mason Dixon Swine
Nah, I'm not overreacting. I just know more than you.
There's Woodstone, Arsaga's is putting in their concept next door to that. Next door to that is Prairie St Bar & Tap. Down the block is a new live music venue/beer garden planned called Prairie St Live.
The frontage along School in front of the Mill Building is also going to be developed with shops, bar and restaurant.
The "warehouse" you are talking about is going to be developed by Modus/SREG as "restaurants, pubs, small businesses" with a boardwalk connecting them all, not to mention likely at least one bar/restaraunt in the ground floor of the building they plan to build along School Ave.
That's just what is already confirmed in the pipeline, before any of the ancillary properties fill out, like the little blue shop next to bike trail, or the handful of other vacant or near vacant buildings along MLK there.
Within 3 years, that area will have as much within two square blocks as Dickson Street had in 1998.
And that's if nothing else is planned at all.
There's Woodstone, Arsaga's is putting in their concept next door to that. Next door to that is Prairie St Bar & Tap. Down the block is a new live music venue/beer garden planned called Prairie St Live.
The frontage along School in front of the Mill Building is also going to be developed with shops, bar and restaurant.
The "warehouse" you are talking about is going to be developed by Modus/SREG as "restaurants, pubs, small businesses" with a boardwalk connecting them all, not to mention likely at least one bar/restaraunt in the ground floor of the building they plan to build along School Ave.
That's just what is already confirmed in the pipeline, before any of the ancillary properties fill out, like the little blue shop next to bike trail, or the handful of other vacant or near vacant buildings along MLK there.
Within 3 years, that area will have as much within two square blocks as Dickson Street had in 1998.
And that's if nothing else is planned at all.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 1:48 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:53 am to GoldenSombrero
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It’s a shame how crappy all those areas will become in 5-10 years.
It depends on the style and location of apartments. As student housing gets overbuilt, and downtown becomes even more expensive, I'd expect at least one or two of the bigger "student apartment" buildings downtown to go condo, or at least seek market rate, regular renters rather than students.
The stuff in the Mill District will house some students, but won't be targeted at them specifically. It will be a more urban, closer to downtown version of Uptown.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:02 am to wmr
Not to mention the arts corridor basically connecting this area to Dickson.
The gentrification of south side has been underway for 15 years or more. I dig that area though, so I’m cool with it. It’s hilarious to see what some people are asking for shite hole old rental houses down there, hoping to make out like a bandit.
The gentrification of south side has been underway for 15 years or more. I dig that area though, so I’m cool with it. It’s hilarious to see what some people are asking for shite hole old rental houses down there, hoping to make out like a bandit.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 7:03 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:28 am to hogfly
While there is certainly a need for lower cost housing, that area is not going to be it. As stated the arts corridor, lots of new apartments nearby occupied by out of state see students that where much higher rent is the norm so the higher end stuff is not so expensive to them. Said students want to have coffee, booze, food etc close by, so these businesses spring up nearby. Raising the costs for the area and making it an "in" place to live near the arts area. Etc. The positive feedback has begun. Just like you can have a negative feedback for an area, you can have a positive feedback as well.
When I got to Fayetteville, Dickson was a shithole. Run down buildings, overgrown lots, giant whole in the ground along the road. Roger's Rec and Jose's about the only real businesses. Was pretty scary place. Then arts center came in, and with support from the city, everything changed for the better. I really didn't think it would happen at the time, but was completely wrong. Something similar seems to be happening again for many parts of town.
When I got to Fayetteville, Dickson was a shithole. Run down buildings, overgrown lots, giant whole in the ground along the road. Roger's Rec and Jose's about the only real businesses. Was pretty scary place. Then arts center came in, and with support from the city, everything changed for the better. I really didn't think it would happen at the time, but was completely wrong. Something similar seems to be happening again for many parts of town.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 7:30 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:05 am to wmr
Yeah I know the stuff in the works and have even looked at moving to the apartments. But saying its going to be another Dickson area then later saying "of 1998" are two different things.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:40 am to Mason Dixon Swine
Nah, not really. Saying an area is "the next Dickson St" means it's the next emerging entertainment district in Fayetteville. It doesn't mean "oh shite its as good as Dickson St right now".
And I find it ambitious that you've "looked into moving to the apartments" since the architects don't even have anything resembling a floor plan or final design yet. Good on you, though, for knowing a good location when you see it. There's pent up demand for adult housing in the downtown area. Right now, it's either college flophouses, big student apartment complexes, or $500-1000k row houses and condos, without much in between.
And I find it ambitious that you've "looked into moving to the apartments" since the architects don't even have anything resembling a floor plan or final design yet. Good on you, though, for knowing a good location when you see it. There's pent up demand for adult housing in the downtown area. Right now, it's either college flophouses, big student apartment complexes, or $500-1000k row houses and condos, without much in between.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 8:49 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:45 am to BadPiggy
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Said students want to have coffee, booze, food etc close by, so these businesses spring up nearby. Raising the costs for the area and making it an "in" place to live near the arts
This is a very strategic location, not only via its proximity to downtown and the new Windgate Arts District and Cultural Arts Corridor, it sits at the intersection of two major trail lines--Tsa La Gi and Frisco. All of the new student stuff south of MLK sits adjacent to Tsa La Gi (literally every bit of it from Hill Place to the new stuff being built around Baum). It's a short, flat, safe bike ride away from where these new bars and restaurants are being built.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:52 am to wmr
Well I guess you just have your own way of speaking. You might as well say it's the next Beale Street and start panicking about the rents and traffic congestion.
Oh I meant Beale street in 1945
Oh I meant Beale street in 1945
Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:16 am to wmr
That area will definitely be like Dickson in a way in a few years, in that people will drive (or bike) there, park and walk around to different bars and restaurants.
I think it's probably going to be closer to The Square as far as density of things to do.
Still, it's a fair comparison. It is a mix of new buildings and older buildings being re-used for entertainment venues and restaurants. Young folk don't recall that many of the buildings around Dickson St were old laundries, bakeries, or other semi-industrial use, well into the late 1990s.
Pretty cool to see actual stuff finally happening around that mill condo building after all these years. It's been there for what, 20 years? Now, the neighborhood is finally catching up.
I think it's probably going to be closer to The Square as far as density of things to do.
Still, it's a fair comparison. It is a mix of new buildings and older buildings being re-used for entertainment venues and restaurants. Young folk don't recall that many of the buildings around Dickson St were old laundries, bakeries, or other semi-industrial use, well into the late 1990s.
Pretty cool to see actual stuff finally happening around that mill condo building after all these years. It's been there for what, 20 years? Now, the neighborhood is finally catching up.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 10:19 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:21 am to Mason Dixon Swine
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Wtf no it won't. It's basically a warehouse at the moment. And I remember what the the co-op used to be too. You're overreacting
"Basically a warehouse at the moment" describes the condition of at least 50% of the space around Dickson Street currently occupied by bars and restaurants when I first moved to Fayetteville in 1996. Some of those "warehouses" (Schulertown, the building that housed Dave's On Dickson) are even gone now, after having been bars, because they got demolished to make way for midrise condo buildings.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 10:24 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:27 am to Mason Dixon Swine
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Well I guess you just have your own way of speaking. You might as well say it's the next Beale Street and start panicking about the rents and traffic congestion.
Oh I meant Beale street in 1945
Likewise, you have an interesting method of interpreting information, if you believed the OP was stating that you'd wake up in 6 months and find an entirely new, complete version of Dickson Street sitting at the corner of MLK and School Ave.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:38 am to Numberwang
I dont think this is changing the dynamic of town unlike the OP. OP says it's one more way we're losing small town Fayetteville and I dont think it's nearly as big a deal as some of you apparently.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:42 am to Mason Dixon Swine
I could be wrong, but I interpreted the loss of small town feel to the loss of the Farmer's Co-Op specifically. Like a place your grandpaw used to take you as a kid is being turned into another higher-intensity use.
Same deal as if they built condos on Marvin's IGA (which is becoming ONF), or a slick town center where the drive-in theatre is located.
Same deal as if they built condos on Marvin's IGA (which is becoming ONF), or a slick town center where the drive-in theatre is located.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:32 pm to BadPiggy
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When I got to Fayetteville, Dickson was a shithole. Run down buildings, overgrown lots, giant whole in the ground along the road. Roger's Rec and Jose's about the only real businesses. Was pretty scary place. Then arts center came in, and with support from the city, everything changed for the better. I really didn't think it would happen at the time, but was completely wrong. Something similar seems to be happening again for many parts of town.
I fave fond memories of when herds of unwashed hippies roamed Dickson Street bumming cigarettes off each other and stealing toilet paper from the restaurants. I think most of them were euthanized but a breeding population was moved to Eureka Springs.
Fayetteville, and the rest of NW Arkansas for that matter, is changing at a rapid pace. I've been away for two and a half years now and I'd probably be shocked to see how much my old stomping grounds have changed just in that short period of time.
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