re: 2013 Arkansas Recruiting Thread - Football & Basketball Commits

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Richard Davenport ?@ArRecruitingGuy 3:36 update- QB Damon Mitchell's announcement time

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Quarterback Damon Mitchell will announce his decision at 1:15 eastern time tomorrow. He will chose from Arkansas, Rutgers, Iowa and Georgia Tech.

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We can't help it that ESPN's recruiting service sucks.

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Craig Haubert is on Bo Mattingly. He isn't being kind to AR.

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I think the recruiting ceiling at Ark realistically is somewhere in the middle of the pack in the SEC w/big year here or there.

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That's actually pretty much spot-on. Even if we manage to reel in a top 10-15 class next year, which I think is likely, we'll still have an above average chance of being behind LSU, Florida, Bama, aTm, UGA, Auburn, etc.

The SEC is just that brutal.

But that's fine. I'd MUCH rather be middle of the pack than bottom of the barrel. It's not so much being the 4th, 5th, 6th, etc.

I want have an "average recruit" who is only marginally behind Bama's average recruit. Say theirs are rated at 3.92 stars in aggregate...I hope ours are 3.6 as opposed to 3.3. I don't care if that puts us at 6th or 8th in the SEC.

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We've never had a staff this good at recruiting since it hit the mainstream either. If we have a decent year we could crack the top 10 next year IMO

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True. We could be freakin' 6th and STILL have the 6th best class in the SEC.

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True. We could be freakin' 6th and STILL have the 6th best class in the SEC.

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Top 10 there isn't much difference in overall talent level though. If we can consistently hit 10-15 we should be competing for titles

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True. We could be freakin' 6th and STILL have the 6th best class in the SEC.

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Yes, but if you look at the points on 247, which is how they rank these classes points.

Bama is #1 with 778.64 we are 25th with with 725.84, yes that is big gap, but the gap to #2 Florida is pretty big, 766.04.

You have to go to #15 (Texas) in the rankings before you get above a +10 point margin and #30(Wisconsin) before you reach -10.

In the SEC that 10 point margin puts Carolina, Auburn, Ms. State, Arkansas, and Tennessee all within one another the 7-11 ranked classes this year.

So saying "mid pack in the SEC" sounds mediocre but when the classes are so close to one another and vary in order across the services it still comes down to filling needs and developing players by the coaching staffs, especially when only two teams in the SEC (Mizzou and Kentucky) are not in the top 30 in the recruiting rankings this year.

It would be different if you had a couple teams in the top 15, a couple more in the top 30, a couple more in the top 40, the rest trying to stay in the top 80.

That's pretty much the same point I was making about average stars. I don't care if we're 6th or 8th. I just want to be reasonably close in terms of our average player to the best team each year. If the top team has an average committed player of 3.92 stars, hopefully we won't be too far behind. If we can stay within striking distance each year we can make up for talent disparities through player development, redshirt program, and coaching.

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That's pretty much the same point I was making about average stars. I don't care if we're 6th or 8th. I just want to be reasonably close in terms of our average player to the best team each year. If the top team has an average committed player of 3.92 stars, hopefully we won't be too far behind. If we can stay within striking distance each year we can make up for talent disparities through player development, redshirt program, and coaching.

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The only thing that will hurt us here is our instate recruits who do not go to the combines, the guys who hand out stars do so more off this than game films and most of our instate guys don't go to their combines or the team camps where the services have scouts as it can be costly to attend.

Good example is Brandon Allen, he was a 3star and I think he was finally bumped by rivals when they actually saw him play, they admitted they never saw enough of him to properly evaluate him.

Another example is Arkansas use to have a top 25 when Rivals had the staff to evaluate more players, then is it was cut to 20, then 15, now it is down to 10.

stop raining down with that shite.

What we need is someone to stay around long enough to make us an actual power every year, and to get our recruiting to a level where people view Arkansas as a tier-1 place to go play football at.

We have the money.
We have the fans.
We have the facilities.
We are in the right conference.

We just need someone to do something with all of these resources, and also do so while putting an emphasis on recruiting. Petrino did the former, but with his lack of recruiting we were sure to see a drop-off, even if he left on "conventional" terms.

I think CBB will stick around long enough to turn us around. If we can get 5 or 6 years out of him, maybe a couple BCS bowls in there, I think it will establish a good foundation for the future of hog football, and we will come to expect to flip top kids out of Florida, Texas, etc.