re: UA Basketball Recruiting

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That cuts it off right after these guys these guys Devonta Pollard Trevor Lacey Levi Randolph Trevor Releford

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You're going all the way back to 2010. My point was that lately we haven't been signing many, we have signed 3 top 50 prospects in the last 7 years, that's not very good. Only one of those recruits were top 30, Sexton of course.

I'll be surprised if Oats doesn't sign two this year. Pretty sure 5 top 50 recruits in this class have said they are gonna give us an official visit (3 of the 5 are top 30 recruits), that's way more than we normally would get under Johnson or Grant, and Oats has only been on the job a few months.

That's not to mention Oats getting Quinerly who was a top 30 recruit in 2018 to transfer here already.

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You're going all the way back to 2010. My point was that lately we haven't been signing many, we have signed 3 top 50 prospects in the last 7 years

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You always compare Oats to Grant and Avery, now you don't want to use Grant's entire coaching tenure at Bama. That's called moving the goalposts

I am simply saying Oats is working harder in recruiting than either of them and getting us way more national attention from top players and some are arguing that Grant and Johnson did just as good of a job. If they did such a great job why arent they here anymore? Why were the fans bashing Johnson constantly the last two years? They did not do a good job.


Show me a year where Grant or Johnson had 5 top 50 recruits visiting here in one year and I will say that I am wrong.

We had one ball handler on the team last year, how is that doing a good job recruiting?


The point isn't is Avery did “pretty good” at recruiting or not, its that in getting us in on so many top recruits in just a few months, recruits who aren't even from the south, that Oats is doing a great job so far.


Keep going with the revisionist history about how loaded our NIT teams were under Johnson and Grant though, its entertaining.

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Keep going with the revisionist history about how loaded our NIT teams were under Johnson and Grant though, its entertaining.

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You're the one being the revisionist. You didn't open your mouth about recruiting while Avery was here. Now all of the sudden you're the fricking Yoda of all things basketball

I am giving reasons why I am excited about Oats, not sure why others cant just be excited to and feel the need to argue with me about it. I don't know how Bama fans can't be excited with what Oats has done so far and how hard him the assistants and the team seem to be working.

Yet it's ok to act like Avery Johnson was jet setting all across the country out working everyone, watching and visiting top recruits weekly the way Oats is, when he wasnt? Most of the prospects we were in on with Johnson were regional and it was Pettway that did most of the work with them, not Johnson. Oats is outworking Avery on the recruiting trail, it's a fact.

If someone can prove to me that there was a class where Grant or Johnson had 5 top 50 recruits, 3 in the top 30, from all over the country visiting us in one class then I will concede my point. I won't even bring up that Oats is doing it only being on the job like 3 months.

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We had one ball handler on the team last year, how is that doing a good job recruiting?

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I really don't want the can of worms opened again about Avery Jr, the kid that transferred to Baylor, Justin Coleman etc. . . Suffice it to say that regardless of all the different opinions we have about that, the one common point of agreement is that it was much more a roster management issue than Avery having some capable players recruited.

My opinion is Avery was a pretty good recruiter, especially when considering the transfers, and his recruits are the main reason most feel we're a NCAA bid contender this year if Oats does a better coaching job.

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Oats is doing a great job so far.

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Again, I have no complaints in the least about Oats. I like everything he's said and done so far. I'm just holding my horses on expecting 2 five star recruits every year.

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Keep going with the revisionist history about how loaded our NIT teams were under Johnson and Grant though

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No one is really saying any of those teams were that loaded.

In retrospect, there were a lot of guys like Key that were Top 50 recruits that probably shouldn't have been and a number of transfers who had been Top 50 recruits like Nick King, Giddens, Mack etc that never produced for us like Top 50 players.

Grant was easily the worst recruiter at Alabama since desegregation --considering the amount of players he brought in by choice that had Div II talent at best. But, even though he was seemingly left at the alter by a big name every season, he still managed to average 1 Top 50 recruit per season until that final dead man walking season.


But that's kind of the reason I don't get all that excited about the recruiting visits before the players sign or really rankings before the players play.

I'm also old enough to have followed the team under Gottfried and Hobbs . . . speaking of some teams that were loaded with Top 30 and Top 50s guys settling for an NIT bid.


Anyway, really no reason to argue about all this as we're all fans and hoping for the best and I think all very optimistic about Oats whether he'll eventually be able to load his rosters with numerous five stars or not.

You’re getting yourself all worked up over nothing.

There are some folks in this thread that do not share the same excitement as you right now in regards to recruiting simply because they are waiting to see if we can actually get some of these elite prospects to commit and sign a LOI.

There is nothing wrong with those people taking that wait and see approach, especially considering the fact that they have been following this program and the recruiting of this program for a long, long time.

There is also nothing wrong with you being super excited about where things stand right now and the progress that the staff has made in a short amount of time.

Just stop acting like they’re wrong or misinformed about their stance just because it doesn’t agree with yours. I think all of the regular posters in here are well informed of our successes and failures as it relates to recruiting going back a lot farther than just Avery and Grant.