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Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:09 pm to mistaken4193
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:09 pm to mistaken4193
So 8 years ago when we were a 9 seed?
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:10 pm to mistaken4193
Anthony Grant won over 20 games here three years in a row. 25 in 2010, 21 in 2011, 23 in 2012. We still only made the tourney one of those years because the SEC was down and we had a very weak OOC schedule.
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:17 pm to CrimsonFever
Anyone else think we would've won 20 games last year with Nate Oats as our coach? We won 18 with Avery Johnson and were one win away from the tournament.
I feel like we would've made the tourney easily last year with Oats as the HC.
I feel like we would've made the tourney easily last year with Oats as the HC.
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:22 pm to CrimsonFever
I’d like to see him coach for Bama before I can make a declaration like that.
I’ve seen folks that said don’t overreact if the first year doesn’t go well, but I think the more likely scenario is we do pretty well and call Oats the second coming. I feel like everyone was gung-ho for both Johnson and Grant after a couple years but by year 3/4, we could all see it was just a matter of time until they were fired.
I’ve seen folks that said don’t overreact if the first year doesn’t go well, but I think the more likely scenario is we do pretty well and call Oats the second coming. I feel like everyone was gung-ho for both Johnson and Grant after a couple years but by year 3/4, we could all see it was just a matter of time until they were fired.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:29 pm to Bryant91092
With the talent we have the expectation this year should be to make the tourney, If we don't that will be a bad sign.
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:38 pm to CrimsonFever
In my opinion, we'll be very lucky to make the tournament. I don't care about last season and winning 18 games with a non existent coach. This is a brand new team learning a brand new system.
Transitions are tough, and first years often don't get wonderful results, no matter what talent the coach has.
Transitions are tough, and first years often don't get wonderful results, no matter what talent the coach has.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:40 pm to Cobrasize
That would be a bad look on Oats then who already said he thinks we will make the tournament this year.
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:45 pm to CrimsonFever
It won't be a bad look. You're setting yourself up for a big disappointment. There are always growing pains. The team might have bought in to the system, but they could easily revert back to old ways when things start getting tough during games.
Oats can't predict, if the guys we have, will miraculously start hitting 3s.
Oats can't predict, if the guys we have, will miraculously start hitting 3s.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:46 pm to CrimsonFever
I think one key will be the buy-in. If the guys have fun and get enthusiastic about the new system and just play loose and play hard, we could be formidable. If they struggle and think too much and don’t play well, it might be a rough year.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:50 pm to Cobrasize
There aren’t always growing pains. He made the tournament his first year at buffalo, weren’t growing pains there.
Chris Mack had a very good first season at Louisville last year. Look at what Kermit Davis did at Ole Miss last year.
Every year there are new coaches who have good seasons at their new school and most of them don’t have three top 40 recruits on their roster.
Chris Mack had a very good first season at Louisville last year. Look at what Kermit Davis did at Ole Miss last year.
Every year there are new coaches who have good seasons at their new school and most of them don’t have three top 40 recruits on their roster.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:52 pm to CrimsonFever
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There aren’t always growing pains. He made the tournament his first year at buffalo, weren’t growing pains there.
He had been at that school as an assistant coach. You can't compare this situation to his first year at Buffalo. First year at Alabama and his first year at Buffalo are nothing alike except for the fact that it's his first year
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:54 pm to CrimsonFever
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Chris Mack had a very good first season at Louisville last year. Look at what Kermit Davis did at Ole Miss last year.
That's 2 examples. Now give the first year coaches that didn't do very well
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:55 pm to CrimsonFever
A slight concern for me is year 2 not being quite as good as year 1 for whatever reason and then having the fair-weather basketball fans being complacent or negative about the program.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:58 pm to Cobrasize
I was responding to you saying there are always growing pains by showing you two recent examples where the teams did much better with their new coaches than they did the previous year. Those were off the top of my head, I can find a lot more if you want me to.
A lot of times teams with good new coaches do better than they did the year before when the coaching was subpar and the coach was fired.
A lot of times teams with good new coaches do better than they did the year before when the coaching was subpar and the coach was fired.
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 7:03 pm to Chadaristic
Bobby Hurley at Buffalo
19-10
23-10
Arizona State
15-17
15-18
20-12
23-11
There are growing pains for coaches too, when they move up to big time basketball
19-10
23-10
Arizona State
15-17
15-18
20-12
23-11
There are growing pains for coaches too, when they move up to big time basketball
Posted on 6/8/19 at 7:04 pm to Chadaristic
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So 8 years ago when we were a 9 seed?
Yes. I just good more than anything we turn it over less an shoot FTs better.
I know there are gonna be games where the 3 ball aint falling and we will look pretty bad. We need to give Oats at least 4 years to get his guys.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 7:06 pm to Cobrasize
Oats followed Hurley and here was his first 2 seasons, at a school he had been an assistant coach at
20-15
17-15
20-15
17-15
Posted on 6/8/19 at 7:08 pm to Cobrasize
And then you have a coach like Kermit Davis who in his first year in "big boy basketball" took a ole miss team that was 12 and 20 the year before he got there, to 20 and 13 last year with an NCAAT berth.
Every situation is different, to say every new coach has growing pains isn't true, a lot of the time the team does better with the first year HC than they did with the one who was fired.
Every situation is different, to say every new coach has growing pains isn't true, a lot of the time the team does better with the first year HC than they did with the one who was fired.
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 7:09 pm to mistaken4193
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know there are gonna be games where the 3 ball aint falling and we will look pretty bad. We need to give Oats at least 4 years to get his guys
I agree with this completely. We are going to miss Hall tremendously, even though he disappeared at times.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 7:14 pm to CrimsonFever
Well, go ahead and set your expectations too high, and I don't want to hear "Oats sucks", when he doesn't reach your unreal expectations for a first season. He needs time
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