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re: Ty Simpson should have been the starter last year, maybe even the year before.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:03 pm to Diego Ricardo
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:03 pm to Diego Ricardo
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I don’t think he’s even fully uncorked his potential.
Agreed. I think by the end of the year, Simpson might look better than Michael Penix Jr. in this offense.
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:32 pm to Xignals
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My uninformed take is that if Milroe was pulled/benched it would have splintered the locker room.
Possibly, but if you saw the body language of the receivers during the bowl game vs Michigan, they were clearly over Milroe.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:02 pm to Tide Groupee
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Coker never lost a game as the starter at Alabama. He threw for over 3000 yards with a 67% completion rate in 2015. wtf are you talking about retard?
Dude was out there making absolutely boneheaded throwing decisions until he locked in during the 4th quarter of the TSIO when the team absolutely needed it. That was the moment he became the QB we needed to win a championship.
Judging by your OG username, I'm not sure you were actually grown enough to really remember the 2015 football season. I watched all 15 games. The man was a walking-talking turnover risk until the light came on. It started in the Texas A&M game when he trucked a defender on a scramble. It was realized the next week on that clutch 4th quarter drive v. Tennessee. We weren't winning a national title with the Jacob Coker that started the first half of the season. He just made way too many boneheaded throws especially whenever under pressure.
I love his development as a player over that season though. He went from a liability to the reason we won the two playoff games. It was a great storybook ending for a kid who always wanted to play for the Crimson Tide.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:14 pm to _Hurricane_
Ty Simpson did not win the job. Two coaching staffs determined this. Two years ago he got what few backup QBs ever get. He got an in season opportunity to wrestle the job away from the starter at USF. He had a golden opportunity to send Milroe to the WR room. He came in in the middle of the 2nd quarter and stunk less than Buchner. He was slow. He held the ball forever. He had no idea what he was looking at pre-snap. He throws a much better ball than Milroe, but he wasn't ready to play QB at Alabama. And I think the first person that would agree with all of this is Ty Simpson.
You don't grow into being a D1 quarterback in season normally. It's going to be hard for Pierre to grow into a Sam linebacker in season. There's simply not enough time to teach a player to recognize coverage, defensive fronts, know what protections match the personnel...etc and install a gameplan.
Ty getting his time right now might be the best thing that ever happened to him. He wasn't ready last year and neither was the offensive staff. The offense has been so dysfunctional going back to Bryce Young's last year. No run lanes. No separation. The slowest developing plays you've ever seen. Now look at it. It's not just that Ty is better. It's not just that he trusts his eyes and is processing pre-snap better than anybody in the country. The play design is better. The O line is in sync in pass protection. Every week a different RB makes an instructional video in blitz pickup. Most important, we've got open receivers plural every other play. The play where Ty hits Horton in the hole up the left sideline, Ryan Williams is just as open up the right hash. Everyone is playing faster and surer. And this kid is going to NYC the 2nd week in December.
You don't grow into being a D1 quarterback in season normally. It's going to be hard for Pierre to grow into a Sam linebacker in season. There's simply not enough time to teach a player to recognize coverage, defensive fronts, know what protections match the personnel...etc and install a gameplan.
Ty getting his time right now might be the best thing that ever happened to him. He wasn't ready last year and neither was the offensive staff. The offense has been so dysfunctional going back to Bryce Young's last year. No run lanes. No separation. The slowest developing plays you've ever seen. Now look at it. It's not just that Ty is better. It's not just that he trusts his eyes and is processing pre-snap better than anybody in the country. The play design is better. The O line is in sync in pass protection. Every week a different RB makes an instructional video in blitz pickup. Most important, we've got open receivers plural every other play. The play where Ty hits Horton in the hole up the left sideline, Ryan Williams is just as open up the right hash. Everyone is playing faster and surer. And this kid is going to NYC the 2nd week in December.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:24 pm to In Hsv
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He was all about self promotion!
100% watch the final kneel down against UGA last year…he ran right past his teammates and to the cameras and started posing and all this in the endzone.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:32 pm to mistaken4193
Anyone who says Milroe wasn't a cancer in the locker room is kidding themselves. The problem didn't start last year, it started under Saban. Anyone close to the program can verify.
Deboer just played it out and didn't blow the entire thing up. Milroe was instrumental in keeping some guys to stay.. it's all working out now.
Deboer just played it out and didn't blow the entire thing up. Milroe was instrumental in keeping some guys to stay.. it's all working out now.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:52 pm to Notorious1918
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Notorious1918
Truth.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:36 pm to mistaken4193
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I’ve been saying if Ty starts that game vs USF instead of Buchner he would have kept the job. And even when Ty got in in that game he wasn’t a disaster.
This 100%. Rees/ Saban benched Milroe because it was clear even then that Milroe couldn’t run a pro-style, progression passing attack. They started Buchner, who could make the reads, but his arm was weak as water.
The pass that Ty hit to Dippre (TE) up the seam in that game was one of the better passes/ reads of 2023 in hindsight. Now all the analysts are talking about how great Ty throws the ball in the middle of the field.
Bama wasted a lot of talent Saban’s last 3 years, for whatever reasons. So frustrating to look back upon.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 10:14 pm to Rip N Lip
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So frustrating to look back upon.
Kinda why I don't do it. My neighboor said to me the other day " I bet yall wished you kept that tOSU qb" - Julian Sayin.
I responded I definately would not trade Ty for Julian. I really think we had some compitition and Ty came out the best.
It's more on Jalen Milroe than Debore. He had to keep as many players as he could. Milroe just fuked up too much. Limited our offense.
We're in much better hads now and the Offense knows it also. I'm not gonna waist time looking back or playing the what if game.
Bama needs to focus on improvement for this year. We can be really good this year if we stay injury free.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:12 am to 1loyalbamafan
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Kinda why I don't do it. My neighboor said to me the other day " I bet yall wished you kept that tOSU qb" - Julian Sayin.
Sayin was told to move on to bring in Mack.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:27 am to Notorious1918
All of these are the facts.
Also the impact of Grubb is being underestimated. It's why some of us have always hammered on the level of coordinators we had at the end of Saban's tenure and the level we had last season.
Again all of this flies over the head of the fan who believes message board conspiracies and watches games drunk not actually understanding anything that is going on. Who always yells "run da bawl" anytime the offense isn't scoring within 3 plays and believes players are never tough enough or good enough when we are actually being outschemed.
Also the impact of Grubb is being underestimated. It's why some of us have always hammered on the level of coordinators we had at the end of Saban's tenure and the level we had last season.
Again all of this flies over the head of the fan who believes message board conspiracies and watches games drunk not actually understanding anything that is going on. Who always yells "run da bawl" anytime the offense isn't scoring within 3 plays and believes players are never tough enough or good enough when we are actually being outschemed.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:33 am to YStar
Y'all sent months shitting on Milroe and now y'all back to shitting on Milroe. We're halfway through the season and I think at this point, everyone needs to let it go and move on. Let's focus on Ty, not Milroe.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:37 am to _Hurricane_
Even at the start of this year Ty was not fully ready. It should have been after (or even during) the OU game. Not because it would’ve saved the season, but because it might’ve saved us the FSU loss
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:50 am to Glorious
The problem is that we weren’t ever really out of playoff contention so making 2025 roster moves in 2024 would have been more controversial than riding who you started all season to the finish line.
If we were going to see Milroe pulled, it would’ve been after the Tennessee game but we caught a great matchup for him right after TSIO and it never happened.
I don’t think pulling Milroe for performance in Norman makes sense either. It was a one score game then he made two terrible throws in back to back possessions that put us down 24-3. You really going to throw Simpson out there in that situation on the road with a playoff berth on the line? Sounds like a recipe to ruin your QB’s psyche permanently unless everything pops off in a valiant effort or comeback.
If we were going to see Milroe pulled, it would’ve been after the Tennessee game but we caught a great matchup for him right after TSIO and it never happened.
I don’t think pulling Milroe for performance in Norman makes sense either. It was a one score game then he made two terrible throws in back to back possessions that put us down 24-3. You really going to throw Simpson out there in that situation on the road with a playoff berth on the line? Sounds like a recipe to ruin your QB’s psyche permanently unless everything pops off in a valiant effort or comeback.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:11 am to YStar
This coming from the fan that said milroe didn’t throw over the middle or on time because the recievers suck and he doesn’t trust them. Mind you NFL scouts said watching burtons film was just watching him consistently get open and milroe failing to get him the ball. Then year 2 he has the same problem and you can’t blame the receivers then. He sucked boom or bust is all he was no where consistent enough to sustain drives.
Then you rode Ty after and during the FSU game for being late after sucking milroes dick for two full years while being late every time. You wanted Ty to fail so you can rub it in others face then after he lit it up you just saved face.
Then you rode Ty after and during the FSU game for being late after sucking milroes dick for two full years while being late every time. You wanted Ty to fail so you can rub it in others face then after he lit it up you just saved face.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:31 am to _Hurricane_
I honestly think Milroe was not benched, because he was the starter the year prior. Most people would agree Ty fits DeBoer's scheme better than Milroe!
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:20 am to _Hurricane_
I seen this get suggested many times over the last couple of years and the poster would get publicly disemboweled. It was painful to watch Milroe try and play the position.
I think Ty is more Mac Jones like personally. Burrow comparisons are tough to make.
I think Ty is more Mac Jones like personally. Burrow comparisons are tough to make.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:23 am to StainlessTide
I'll add to my previous post where I really just don't see the moment where the staff clearly should have benched Milroe for Simpson when you think within the context of the moment instead of retrospectively.
However, I think that Milroe should have been pushed towards opting out of the bowl game. The only reason we moved the ball the little that we did in the Rose Bowl was because of our offense essentially reverting to "challenge your manhood" mode and getting some physicality wins in the run game. That wasn't our offense in 2024 so that meant Michigan's zone blitz looks were going to put Milroe in a mental blender.
By the same token, the risk of playing Ty Simpson against a quality defense was mitigated - barring an absolute meltdown by him - by the assumption that our own defense was going to stop Michigan if they just had to drive the field consistently.
Especially for a year 1 program, I think using a meaningless bowl game as a camp for the 2025 team made a ton of sense. Milroe would have certainly had a better send off riding off after the Iron Bowl rather than going out there and getting put in the Martindale blender.
However, I think that Milroe should have been pushed towards opting out of the bowl game. The only reason we moved the ball the little that we did in the Rose Bowl was because of our offense essentially reverting to "challenge your manhood" mode and getting some physicality wins in the run game. That wasn't our offense in 2024 so that meant Michigan's zone blitz looks were going to put Milroe in a mental blender.
By the same token, the risk of playing Ty Simpson against a quality defense was mitigated - barring an absolute meltdown by him - by the assumption that our own defense was going to stop Michigan if they just had to drive the field consistently.
Especially for a year 1 program, I think using a meaningless bowl game as a camp for the 2025 team made a ton of sense. Milroe would have certainly had a better send off riding off after the Iron Bowl rather than going out there and getting put in the Martindale blender.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:24 am to mistaken4193
Hope I never again hear that the "locker room" is making decisions on who our QB is gonna be.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:31 am to Canyon16
He is already tied for Heisman yrs with Oregon QB
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