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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:15 pm to GenesChin
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:15 pm to GenesChin
Sexton won't stay more than one year, he's already projected to be a top 10 pick in the draft. Idk where Petty is projected to be drafted but I doubt he'll stay more than a year.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:28 pm to GenesChin
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Given the reliance on FR/SO, next year could be more frustrating a la '15 LSU. Talent to beat anybody, youth to lose any game.
Understandably, but they give us more of a chance to win and be competitive in games than this years squad IMO. Along with more talent, returning key starters like Key, Dazon, and new transfer Daniel Giddens.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:29 pm to Gary Busey
Also, we have a good coach from what I can tell, LSU didnt
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:00 pm to Bamafan15
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Sexton won't stay more than one year, he's already projected to be a top 10 pick in the draft.
The probability of Sexton and/or Petty being Lotto picks is incredibly low. That isn't a knock on them but just the numbers. Only about 6-7 FR are lotto picks, there are a lot of 5*s and not enough projected lotto pick slots for them. That is before you realize that nearly all the FR lotto picks already come from Duke/UK/Kansas
Sexton specifically is at a disadvantage as a PG. Only 1 PG has been a lotto pick as a FR since 2012.
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but they give us more of a chance to win and be competitive in games
No doubt. Just pointing out, it can be even more frustrating at times watching freshmen figure it out since they have the talent but developing IQ.
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Also, we have a good coach from what I can tell, LSU didnt
He still will be learning on the fly on how to handle this situation. He may hit a homerun, or he may have some bumps in the road. Who knows
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:00 pm to GenesChin
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Given the reliance on FR/SO, next year could be more frustrating a la '15 LSU. Talent to beat anybody, youth to lose any game.
If you can keep Petty/Sexton around + get Ingram/Key to develop, ya'll are two years away from a scary good team
Our team could be disappointing next year, but let's not point to LSU as an example. LSU disappointed because Johnny Jones is a horrific coach. He blew the wealth of upperclassmen talent he had the previous year too. The freshmen were far from the problem of that team.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:14 pm to GenesChin
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Sexton specifically is at a disadvantage as a PG. Only 1 PG has been a lotto pick as a FR since 2012
It may not be as a lottery pick, but I'd be willing to bet Sexton will be gone. With his confidence, scoring-ability, and athleticism I don't see how that doesn't translate to big stats in college and open eyes in the NBA. Personally there's not another player in the entire 2017 class that I'd take over him as of right now. He's been the best HS player since EYBL started and it's not really close. The consistency at which he has dominated his competition (no matter what level) has been ridiculous.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:18 pm to BigBird09
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let's not point to LSU as an example. LSU disappointed because Johnny Jones is a horrific coach.
Here are some examples of even great coaches failing to reach the NCAAT despite absolutely dominant top 3-5 classes
2011 Arizona (5*-2 Top 50- 4)
2013 Indiana (5*- 1 Top 50- 3)
2009 UNC (5*- 2 Top 50- 5)
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:35 pm to BigBird09
I'll start by saying, this has nothing to do with Sexton at Alabama and just being a one and done. Because Kentucky, we think one and done is normal but it isn't. It is extremely rare and extremely hard for most players to pull off
Most guys don't leave unless they are projected lottery unless their situation demands it
He still walks in the door as a 6'2 freshman PG
Whether you want to admit it or not, that has never been a recipe for a top NBA pick
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It may not be as a lottery pick, but I'd be willing to bet Sexton will be gone.
Most guys don't leave unless they are projected lottery unless their situation demands it
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With his confidence, scoring-ability, and athleticism I don't see how that doesn't translate to big stats in college and open eyes in the NBA.
He still walks in the door as a 6'2 freshman PG
Whether you want to admit it or not, that has never been a recipe for a top NBA pick
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:09 pm to GenesChin
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Most guys don't leave unless they are projected lottery unless their situation demands it
Projected lottery pick does not equal actual lottery pick. Lots of kids leave early because an agent or someone close gets them to believe they're a lottery pick. A lot of them leave early to get paid. There were 9 freshmen that were drafted outside of the lottery just last draft. 21 players total left early and were drafted outside of the lottery. There were only 15 seniors picked in the entire draft.
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He still walks in the door as a 6'2 freshman PG
Whether you want to admit it or not, that has never been a recipe for a top NBA pick
You act like I hope he leaves... I'm praying you're right. I think his height will hurt his draft stock, but there is too much to like about Sexton to knock him too much for having average height for an NBA PG. Whether you want to admit it or not, Draft Express has him at #7 in their current mock draft and they've been doing this a while. I'm not just fanboying here.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:09 pm to GenesChin
Dbl post
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:07 pm to BigBird09
Texas vs. Michigan just tipped off on ESPN2. I'm curious how Texas will look
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:15 pm to Cobrasize
Florida Atlantic just beat Ohio St. 79-77. 
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:49 pm to Bamafan15
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. Idk where Petty is projected to be drafted but I doubt he'll stay more than a year.
Dante Hall is the only other player projected right now by DraftExpress in that draft after Sexton.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:50 pm to BigBird09
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Whether you want to admit it or not, Draft Express has him at #7 in their current mock draft and they've been doing this a while. I'm not just fanboying here.
If Sexton stays for more than one season that means he was severely underwhelming.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:59 pm to GenesChin
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The probability of Sexton and/or Petty being Lotto picks is incredibly low.
Petty? Sure. Sexton? He's already 7th and rising on DX's board.
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Only about 6-7 FR are lotto picks,
It varies. 2014 and 15 were very 1 and done heavy.
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Sexton specifically is at a disadvantage as a PG. Only 1 PG has been a lotto pick as a FR since 2012.
No. Hell there will probably 4 of them in this upcoming draft. quote:
He still will be learning on the fly on how to handle this situation. He may hit a homerun, or he may have some bumps in the road. Who knows
The man is a former NBA coach of the year, he's not Johnny fricking Jones.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:34 pm to RTR America
Generally speaking, I am just pointing out how unbelievably rare it is to have one and done players
Auburn fans have done that with guys already. Unbelievable the pressure they put on these kids
As I mentioned that was a recent SEC example. Plenty of top tier CBB coaches have run into that issue as I pointed out
Either way, Avery's NBA success doesn't guarantee he won't have bumps transitioning to the college game. Handling 18YO 5* studentathletes isn't something he has done yet
I wouldn't expect Bill Belichick to have Saban type success day 1 if he went to CFB. Obviously I think he'd be successful, but he'd need time to figure shite out
Auburn fans have done that with guys already. Unbelievable the pressure they put on these kids
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The man is a former NBA coach of the year, he's not Johnny fricking Jones.
As I mentioned that was a recent SEC example. Plenty of top tier CBB coaches have run into that issue as I pointed out
Either way, Avery's NBA success doesn't guarantee he won't have bumps transitioning to the college game. Handling 18YO 5* studentathletes isn't something he has done yet
I wouldn't expect Bill Belichick to have Saban type success day 1 if he went to CFB. Obviously I think he'd be successful, but he'd need time to figure shite out
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 6:42 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:00 am to Cobrasize
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Texas vs. Michigan just tipped off on ESPN2. I'm curious how Texas will look
Lost 53-50, which means Michigan would beat us 80 to 67..or something like that.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:01 am to Gary Busey
Hard for me to get emotionally attached to this team yet. If I did it would be miserable to be around me during a game.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:42 am to RTR America
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If Sexton stays for more than one season that means he was severely underwhelming.
Some of us are already setting this guy up to fail. If I were you, I'd expect to see a talented, small guard who often plays a lot like a freshman in his first season. And, be pleasantly surprised if he performs above that level. All this one and done talk is premature.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:55 am to Teague
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All this one and done talk is premature.
It ignores that 1nDone guys are upside NBA talent projections typically and college production doesn't necessarily guarantee it
Just look at Melo Trimble.
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