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re: Scholarship limits need to increase in college football

Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:30 pm to
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Speaking of 85, are we even at 85? Thought we were 82-83 range, before transfers.

Bama typically starts seasons at 85, by awarding schollies to walkons if needed to hit 85. Per the NCAA Bylaws, FBS schools must start with 85, to be eligible to use the midyear replacement option that allows for counting early enrollees against unused prior-cycle signing & initial counter limits.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 12:28 am
Posted by stomp
Bama
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:14 pm to
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It bothers me that for the sake of parity (aka money) the NCAA put a limit of 25 per yr. If you have grown up a Bama fan and are a good football player...just you happen to be...#26 you either have to foot the bill yourself or go to another school. Not that Bama doesn't want the kid....just not allowed to offer him, and finances what they are....he generally has to go somewhere else.


Everybody doesn't get or deserve a trophy. If you're the 26th option for a team, you simply have to go where the jobs are open. Are we in the business of preparing young people for real life, or coddling them for the sake of their own desires?

Also, it's not a money reason, it's a Title IX reason.
Posted by stomp
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:15 pm to
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That would be an extra 140 people in the SEC that get their school paid.


Do you plan on adding the same percentage of extra schollies to a women's sport as well?
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:19 pm to
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Do you plan on adding the same percentage of extra schollies to a women's sport as well?

Yes and for baseball
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:04 pm to
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I agree but Title IX will prevent it.. we are running out of girl sports to equal out.. unless we make bitchin a sport..lol




Took a while for the obvious to come out. Girl's scholarships would have to be increased, or else decrease the other men's sports.

You wouldn't have to add a sport...you could just add scholarships to the existing sports. But the cost is going to be huge for most NCAA schools.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:06 pm to
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and for baseball


So you're going to add even more women's scholarships to make up for those baseball scholarships.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:48 pm to
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Do you plan on adding the same percentage of extra schollies to a women's sport as well?


Why not? I'm sure adding one more woman's sport that doesn't bring in any positive revenue wouldn't hurt.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:25 am to
What the fricking NCAA needs to do is this: you want to bump football scholly numbers? That’s fine, go up to 100. But to compensate and balance for fairness and to comply with Title IX, you have to increase non-revenue/Olympic sports scholarships by the same number on both male and female teams, not by creating a new sport/team but by adding to what you already have. To assist, the NCAA is increasing scholarship limits in baseball, softball, men’s and women’s swimming and diving, volleyball, tennis, golf, etc.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:09 am to
As if the transfer portal isn't busy enough these days. Let's increase the allotment to a hundred entitled Millenials all trying to get on the field.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:29 am to
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As if the transfer portal isn't busy enough these days. Let's increase the allotment to a hundred entitled Millenials all trying to get on the field.


Precisely!

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:35 am to
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Let's increase the allotment to a hundred entitled Millenials all trying to get on the field.

I don't think many Millennials are still in college. Time to stop calling every young person a Millennial.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 8:36 am
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:41 am to
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I don't think many Millennials are still in college. Time to stop calling every young person a Millennial.


By definition: Howe and Strauss define the Millennial cohort as consisting of individuals born between 1982 and 2004.

Guess were going to have to put up with the terminology for a few more years.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:48 am to
Most people consider Millennials to be born between 1981 and 1996.

Source: Oxford Dictionary, Pew Research Center, US Bureau of Labor Statistics, Federal Reserve Board, American Psychological Association, etc.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:09 am to
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Most people consider Millennials to be born between 1981 and 1996.

Source: Oxford Dictionary, Pew Research Center, US Bureau of Labor Statistics, Federal Reserve Board, American Psychological Association, etc.


So what you're saying is that today's football players were raised by thousands of entitled Millenial fathers and mothers?

Given that words convey thought, I can live with the difference.

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:24 am to
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So what you're saying is that today's football players were raised by thousands of entitled Millenial fathers and mothers?
I don't think many of today's players were raised by Millennials. If today's freshmen are 18, then they were born ~2001. The oldest Millennials were ~20 years old in 2001.

I was born in '87. If I had a kid at 18, the kid would only be 14 today.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 2:37 pm to
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That’s fine, go up to 100. But to compensate and balance for fairness and to comply with Title IX, you have to increase non-revenue/Olympic sports scholarships by the same number on both male and female teams, not by creating a new sport/team but by adding to what you already have.


Not sure you understand how Title IX works. If you add 15 football scholarships, you'll have to add 15 FEMALE ONLY scholarships, not "increase non-revenue/Olympic sports scholarships by the same number on both male and female teams."

Adding 30 full athletic scholarships would cripple many college athletic programs.
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