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re: Peter Golding Interview
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:14 am to CrimsonBoz
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:14 am to CrimsonBoz
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It’s in an article floating around somewhere. Go find it. Don’t take my work for it.
On AL.com who quotes nobody and posts trash on a daily basis.
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:17 am to CrimsonBoz
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It’s in an article floating around somewhere. Go find it. Don’t take my work for it.
Why didn't it ever come out that it happened while it was happening? That seems like a pretty big development and nobody knew about it? It wasn't until Golding was hired that it came out, and it was for some weird reason done as a "this is great" thing.
Interesting timing.
Hell, Lane Kiffin was merely on the staff and it was widely known he was helping on the game plan and such and was likely to be the upcoming replacement.
Speaking of which, Sark also did basically the same thing and did step in when Kiffin was fired.
But absolutely nothing on Golding taking over play calling duties for the entire 2nd half of the season and the playoffs.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 12:40 am
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:45 am to 3down10
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On AL.com who quotes nobody and posts trash on a daily basis... Why didn't it ever come out that it happened while it was happening? That seems like a pretty big development and nobody knew about it? ... absolutely nothing on Golding taking over play calling duties for the entire 2nd half of the season and the playoffs.
I recall that were several well connected guys discussing it on BOL. I don't recall reading an AL.com article about it, but if it was authored by Zenitz I'd consider it credible. He does appear to get good intel, since other outlets often post reports that credit him as the first to report it.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:57 am to 3down10
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When was the last time we've ever seen this situation to make such definitive statements on the topic?
2009 - Hightower, Nico Johnson
2010 - CJ Mosley
Its not that far fetched...
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:59 am to biggsc
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Never understood Saban hiring Golding from UTSA anyway
You dont hire a guy from UTSA to "coordinate the defense" ... you hire him to do what he's told and hope he learns enough to earn a little more leeway in the future
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:05 am to stomp
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2009 - Hightower, Nico Johnson
2010 - CJ Mosley
They still had an experienced guy next to them. In 2009, Rolando called the defense. Hightower called the defense in 2010 IIRC.
Also, we lost 3 games in 2010, and injuries were a big factor in that. Do we really want to talk about Stephen Garcia and that defense?
How many guys were injured this year?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 5:29 am to CrimsonBoz
We all appreciate the job you do on the board and especially on the info you provide. Everyone is just really frustrated with our D situation, and needs to take a step back from the keyboard before posting. I have been so frustrated I could bite a nail in to this year myself. For clarification purposes, is it a foregone conclusion now that Golding is staying? My God, the hot dog vendor at Bryant Denny could do as well as I saw games called defensively this year! I’ll hang up and listen as I walk back from the ledge.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 7:20 am to BCBAMA
Its amazing how many people are in denial about the root cause.
The fire the cooks also burns.
The fire the cooks also burns.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:34 am to BCBAMA
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We all appreciate the job you do on the board
No, we all don't.
The more he talks, the more I'm pretty certain he's full of shite.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:45 am to 3down10
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In 2009, Rolando called the defense.
Yep, best defensive play-caller and best MLB we've ever had at Bama. We haven't had anyone even close to knowing Saban's defense as well as McClain since he left...dude was like having a coach on the field...
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:07 am to OldPete
I was listening to Goldings interview and he just doesn't make sense. Just imagine if you are a young player.
We can talk about our inexperience all we want, but 2018 we had experience and our linebackers kept getting burned on the RB catching passes wide open.
I guess we need 1st round talent at all 11 positions to be successful. Our defensive coaches should be able to compensate for a Savion playing. No team is going to have preseason starters start the entire year.
I think once Moses went down, Golding had a nervous breakdown that lasted the entire year.
We can talk about our inexperience all we want, but 2018 we had experience and our linebackers kept getting burned on the RB catching passes wide open.
I guess we need 1st round talent at all 11 positions to be successful. Our defensive coaches should be able to compensate for a Savion playing. No team is going to have preseason starters start the entire year.
I think once Moses went down, Golding had a nervous breakdown that lasted the entire year.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:09 am to Bamadoc
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Things change over an entire season. He did and the team didn’t seem to respond well. You guys think everything stays the same throughout the year and it doesn’t. He was a tireless worker during the off-season but throughout the year either burned himself out or just fell off some it happens.
Or as was mentioned late in the year, Golding was/is having problems at home and he's shorting his job to make up for it. That would make sense and it wouldn't be the first time. If Mama ain't happy, nobody's happy.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:54 am to 3down10
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We all appreciate the job you do on the board
No, we all don't.
The more he talks, the more I'm pretty certain he's full of shite.
I warned you in the other thread to back off the personal attacks. You continue to do so. I even let it slide yesterday. You’re on a 2 week break. Hit the button to come back on the 13th.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:55 am to phil4bama
Mama needs to move to the beach then.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:58 am to Bamadoc
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No team is going to have preseason starters start the entire year.
Probably not...but how many teams lose their two starting MLBs (one of which was a pre-season All-American and on the Butkus watch list) for the whole season before a game is played? And then lose a starting DE for the season in week 3? And then have 6 true freshmen on D starting at some point during the year (and occasionally having to start 5 at the same time)? That's never happened at Bama before...not sure if it's ever happened anywhere at a top Power 5 school...
In '09, we lost Dont'a Hightower for the season in week four. Fortunately, Rolando stayed healthy that year...but can you imagine had we lost both of 'em before the season even started? There'd likely have been multiple losses and no undefeated national championship that year. While injuries are going to happen, injuries to your better and/or most experienced players can derail a season, especially multiple ones at the same position...
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:13 am to OldPete
2 things at play here, in my mind:
1) Alabama is going to run Saban's defense as long as he's here. That means that elite level DC's are not coming unless they're just using us as a quick stepping stone to a HC job (see Pruitt.) The elite DC's want to run THEIR defense, not Saban's uber complex, and frankly outdated NFL scheme of the 1990's. Saban evolved on offense a few years ago, now he needs to evolve on defense. That's his baby, is he still innovative enough to let go if his baby so we can get better in a new era of high flying offense? Guess we will see.
2) Saban is high on Golding, for whatever reason. The truth is, after the unprecedented level of injuries on defense this year, he deserves a year with a healthy team to prove he can run a good defense. I'm fine with Saban giving him 2020, but he better hit a home run next season, or he needs to hit the road.
1) Alabama is going to run Saban's defense as long as he's here. That means that elite level DC's are not coming unless they're just using us as a quick stepping stone to a HC job (see Pruitt.) The elite DC's want to run THEIR defense, not Saban's uber complex, and frankly outdated NFL scheme of the 1990's. Saban evolved on offense a few years ago, now he needs to evolve on defense. That's his baby, is he still innovative enough to let go if his baby so we can get better in a new era of high flying offense? Guess we will see.
2) Saban is high on Golding, for whatever reason. The truth is, after the unprecedented level of injuries on defense this year, he deserves a year with a healthy team to prove he can run a good defense. I'm fine with Saban giving him 2020, but he better hit a home run next season, or he needs to hit the road.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:20 am to TidalSurge1
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Imo, a proven DC running his own system, isn't what we need. Our best DCs (Pruitt & Smart) grew up learning, coaching and mastering Saban's system. Their first DC jobs were at Bama. That's why Glenn Schuman is the right hire, imo.
Jeremy Pruitt left Alabama to take his first DC job with Florida State. In which he promptly won the national championship. Then Mark Richt hired him in Athens for a couple of seasons. He was much the proven commodity by the time he was invited back to Tuscaloosa.
If we want something familiar that is also one of Saban's boys and has Alabama roots, why not Derrick Ansley. A DC at Tennessee that is actually getting that mess straightened out. This guy was very much in demand when Pruitt hired the guy.
But in that you mentioned Glenn Schumann, why not bring him home also. 8 years on Saban's staff and he coaches ILBers to boot. He's officially co-defensive coordinator at Georgia. A title that he can have in Tuscaloosa. There's 2 badazz up and coming coaches that were big pieces to past Alabama success. They both have Alabama degrees. What are we waiting for? Both losses will pain Pruitt and Smart. A bonus.
Get our best coaches back and maybe we can start literally resembling the slogan, "built by Alabama" again.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:23 am to tider04
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The elite DC's want to run THEIR defense, not Saban's uber complex, and frankly outdated NFL scheme of the 1990's. Saban evolved on offense a few years ago, now he needs to evolve on defense.
He did 'evolve' on defense...he started recruiting 'quick-twitch' and speed guys on defense to respond to the spread before Kirby ever left...maybe you can argue he needs to evolve more but he did adapt his defense to the spread. The rules are so slanted towards offenses nowadays though that I'm not sure if defenses will be able to catch up without a rule change...
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The truth is, after the unprecedented level of injuries on defense this year, he deserves a year with a healthy team to prove he can run a good defense. I'm fine with Saban giving him 2020, but he better hit a home run next season, or he needs to hit the road.
Agreed...
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:30 am to Bamadoc
Not all were 1st round but that 2016 defense was talented and they couldn't stop Clemson. Nick brings a team to the stadium that is more talented than the team he is about to play. When that isn't the case then anything can happen.
Oh and the offenses that Ro played against while at Bama aren't on the same level as those today. I believe the cow college was the only full HUNH team that 2009 team had to play and that was a full struggle.
Oh and the offenses that Ro played against while at Bama aren't on the same level as those today. I believe the cow college was the only full HUNH team that 2009 team had to play and that was a full struggle.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:38 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Oh and the offenses that Ro played against while at Bama aren't on the same level as those today. I believe the cow college was the only full HUNH team that 2009 team had to play and that was a full struggle.
It was a full struggle but still not a track meet. 26-21 and the barners were held to about 300 yards for the game. Our offense was a habitual offender for a lot of that '09' season.
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