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Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:40 am to CrimsonShadow
I think it’s largely based off of the severe lack of total beds, ICU beds, and ventilators.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:41 am to 1BamaRTR
That's more than Florida.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:44 am to TidalSurge1
26 reported deaths.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:45 am to TidalSurge1
It's more than Louisiana?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:46 am to 1BamaRTR
Mississippi is a fair comparison because of available hospital beds. Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida all have significantly more hospital beds, but also all have higher populations.
But compared to Mississippi our projected deaths is still extremely high. I can't really think of a logical reason.
But I haven't dug into that link very far.
But compared to Mississippi our projected deaths is still extremely high. I can't really think of a logical reason.
But I haven't dug into that link very far.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:48 am to The Spleen
I haven’t gone through all the states but it seems they project us to have the 2nd highest death total in the nation behind only NY.
Mississippi is estimated at having more than enough total beds and not needing nearly as many ICU beds and ventilators as we do
Mississippi is estimated at having more than enough total beds and not needing nearly as many ICU beds and ventilators as we do
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:48 am to CrimsonShadow
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Saw that but with comparisons it has to be a mistake
More likely people just creating their own 'models' with no basis in what's actually happening on the ground.
I really doubt that group has access to any more information than we do, so they just take some numbers and make stuff up. If they're right they'll say 'see we told you so'. If they're wrong, they'll say 'we were wrong because our numbers made people take it seriously.'
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:53 am to 1BamaRTR
They're projecting Mississippi to not have a bed shortage, so I guess that would explain their lower total deaths.
But it only projects MS will need 3,974 beds, while it projects AL will need over 32,000. So then it doesn't make much sense. Seems MS would need more beds than that given their proximity to New Orleans and Louisiana in general.
But it only projects MS will need 3,974 beds, while it projects AL will need over 32,000. So then it doesn't make much sense. Seems MS would need more beds than that given their proximity to New Orleans and Louisiana in general.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:56 am to JustGetItRight
Compare to other States with added cases and deaths yesterday and their projection changes today. Someone made a mistake. Those figures would put Alabama above some large countries in deaths.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 10:57 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:58 am to The Spleen
Yea here in Mississippi , we have 1,037 cases and 22 deaths as of last night . States are real close in numbers
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:00 am to Bear88
How gradual was the death increase? Like day by day?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:08 am to paperwasp
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The FDA has issued an emergency approval for a testing kit than can detect coronavirus in two minutes
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That viral story on FDA approving two-minute coronavirus test looks like a cruel April Fools' hoax
A story that went viral about the Food and Drug Administration approving a two-minute test for coronavirus antibodies looks like a cruel hoax timed to coincide with April Fools' Day.
On Tuesday, it was widely reported that the FDA had approved a serological test to detect the coronavirus.
The news was reported in a Reuters story that was reprinted by the New York Times, Axios, and many other outlets.
All of the stories eventually led back to a press release issued by a company calling itself BODYSPHERE Inc. I've never heard of any such company, and all Google searches just referenced the story about the coronavirus test.
I then checked out the website of the company, and the only products listed were a COVID-19 test, medical masks, and hand sanitizer — all products that happen to be in high demand right now. The company's Twitter page had no tweets before Monday.
I contacted the FDA to ask if any EUA for BODYSPHERE had been issued and received an email back explaining, "No serology tests have received an authorization to test for coronavirus."
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:09 am to 1BamaRTR
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I think it’s largely based off of the severe lack of total beds, ICU beds, and ventilators.
I saw some interesting data about survivability after extended time on a ventilator the other day. This study was done years ago so it's not Coronavirus specific, but the outcome is pretty telling.
Characteristics and Outcomes in Adult Patients Receiving Mechanical Ventilation
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Results: Of the 15,757 patients admitted, a total of 5,183 (33%) received mechanical ventilation for a mean (SD) duration of 5.9 (7.2) days. The mean (SD) length of stay in the intensive care unit was 11.2 (13.7) days. Overall mortality rate in the intensive care unit was 30.7% (1590 patients) for the entire population, 52% (120) in patients who received ventilation because of acute respiratory distress syndrome, and 22% (115) in patients who received ventilation for an exacerbation of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Survival of unselected patients receiving mechanical ventilation for more than 12 hours was 69%. The main conditions independently associated with increased mortality were (1) factors present at the start of mechanical ventilation (odds ratio [OR], 2.98; 95% confidence interval [CI], 2.44-3.63; P<.001 for coma), (2) factors related to patient management (OR, 3.67; 95% CI, 2.02-6.66; P<.001 for plateau airway pressure >35 cm H2O), and (3) developments occurring over the course of mechanical ventilation (OR, 8.71; 95% CI, 5.44-13.94; P<.001 for ratio of PaO2 to fraction of inspired oxygen <100).
So over 50% of the patients with respiratory issues over the course of the study died after being on a ventilator. Seems kind of high, no?
Why are the ventilators being treated as some kind of miracle treatment for this virus if they don't save half of the people with less severe respiratory issues?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:11 am to TideSaint
quote:Half of 1000 people is still 500 people.
Why are the ventilators being treated as some kind of miracle treatment for this virus if they don't save half of the people with less severe respiratory issues?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:12 am to 1BamaRTR
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How gradual was the death increase? Like day by day?
Driving right now but roughly we have gone up about 2 per day after our initial first four
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:19 am to Bear88
Most of Alabama’s deaths have been in the last 48 hours
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:25 am to pvilleguru
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Half of 1000 people is still 500 people.
And?
Over 30% of the people who were on a ventilator died in the study. Almost 1,600 people.
That sound like a "miracle treatment" to you? Watching the news would make one think a ventilator is a God send for these people. In reality, that's not true.
It's political grandstanding.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 11:26 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:29 am to TideSaint
Who the hell is calling it a "miracle treatment"? If it is the BEST treatment available for people at that stage, and possibly their only chance of survival, why should we not make it a priority to get as much as we need?
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 11:31 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:32 am to pvilleguru
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Who the hell is calling it a "miracle treatment"?
I guess you missed the press conferences last week coming out of New York?
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If it is the BEST treatment available for people at that stage, why should we not make it a priority to get as much as we need?
Well I haven't seen any Governors ban physicians from prescribing them yet, so you might be on to something.
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