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re: FYI John Doe on Milroe

Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:07 pm to
Milroe is not at the level Bennett was at the same point in his experience level.

On top of that Bennett was basically a coach on the field.

Milroe is ... well ...
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:10 pm to
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You guys have terrible memories. Terrible.

In 2020 Stetson was a laughing stock. A running joke.

Now he's a really good passer...that's my point. You all think you know what a QB is based off of a few games. Guys can improve. Things change. Narratives flip.

But go ahead and mail it in.


Stetson Bennett was always a better passer than Milroe is at this point. Bennett was also always a more intelligent QB. Go back and watch the Bama vs. UGA game in Tuscaloosa.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105717 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:12 pm to
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Go back and watch the Bama vs. UGA game in Tuscaloosa.




The one where he was under 50% and threw 3 interceptions on 6.7 YPA?

Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:13 pm to
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The one where he was under 50% and threw 3 interceptions on 6.7 YPA?


Yeah that one. And, he was better than what Milroe is now.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105717 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:14 pm to
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Yeah that one. And, he was better than what Milroe is now.


He looked pretty similar to what Jalen did against a similar defense in Texas. Able to make very basic reads and perplexed at anything where he had to move to his 2nd or 3rd option. 82 of those yards were on a defensive bust (shocker) wheel to a RB out of the backfield.

But yea, sure.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26561 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:15 pm to
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The offense under Milroe put up 24 points against a terrible Ole Miss defense and 26 points on MSU. Those of you all who think that's good with this stacked roster simply have standards that are too low.


Maybe it’s not that people think it is “good” (or good enough) but, rather, that based on what we have seen whether in game or in practice it is the best we can do at this time. Alabama is going to lean on the defense and run game and shorten the games and limit the other team’s possessions this year. Will probably contribute to our best scoring defense and worst scoring offense in several years and that isn’t necessarily the worst thing given our current QB room.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Maybe it’s not that people think it is “good” (or good enough) but, rather, that based on what we have seen whether in game or in practice it is the best we can do at this time. Alabama is going to lean on the defense and run game and shorten the games and limit the other team’s possessions this year. Will probably contribute to our best scoring defense and worst scoring offense in several years and that isn’t necessarily the worst thing given our current QB room.


Yeah, but that strategy doesn't work against teams that have defenses that keep our under-performing offense going 3 and out. To me it sounds like you guys are fine with not being elite. And, like I've said over and over again. This team doesn't need an elite QB. This team needs a smart QB who will take care of the ball, can pass when needed to, and can utilize all of the receivers.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:23 pm to
Like John Doe said some of you guys are really fine with losing games if it means you are right about Milroe and Milroe remains the starter. I want my team to win. I didn't go through the Pete Golding rape of this program to watch an athlete playing QB (rather than a QB playing QB) squander the talent on this team.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26146 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:23 pm to
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Are you saying Milroe is a better QB than Jaden Daniels


Daniels literally could not make a 2nd read to save his life in his first game at LSU. And he was a 3-year Power 5 starter. Now he’s one of the best QBs in the sport

There is this weird assumption that Milroe absolutely cannot improve whereas the other guys are virtually guaranteed to
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:28 pm to
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Daniels literally could not make a 2nd read to save his life in his first game at LSU. And he was a 3-year Power 5 starter. Now he’s one of the best QBs in the sport


Daniels first game as starter at LSU was against FSU in the Superdome. Daniels was head and shoulders above what Milroe is now! What in the hell is wrong with you people?! Y'all look damn silly trying to compare Milroe to Daniels and Stetson. Next y'all will be trying to say Milroe is as good as Joe Burrow was in his first year at LSU. Before any of you try, please don't go there. I'm already convinced some of you were in Special Ed.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Daniels was head and shoulders above what Milroe is now!


He was the textbook definition of 1 read and go. Feel free to watch the 20 minute cut on Youtube
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26561 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:32 pm to
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Like John Doe said some of you guys are really fine with losing games if it means you are right about Milroe and Milroe remains the starter.


Nobody is saying this. Nobody is thinking liking this. That’s just an emotional response from you to people that have a different view of the QB situation. If I had any evidence that there was another QB on the roster that would be more effective, I would be all for putting him in. I don’t. But I dont watch practice and A-day etc. Maybe you do, would love to see your evidence if so. (Pointing out Milroe’s limitations is not enough by the way, everyone knows and generally agrees on that topic).

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I want my team to win.


No shite. We are all with you there.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105717 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:32 pm to
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Daniels first game as starter at LSU was against FSU in the Superdome


Milroe's 2nd game was against a Top 5 Texas team. What are you talking about?

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Y'all look damn silly trying to compare Milroe to Daniels and Stetson


You seem incapable of understanding the point people are trying to make. Jalen is young in game experience and comparable to Bennett and Daniels in terms of performance and lack of awareness when they were young in game experience.

Both those guys got much better. Milroe may or may not get much better. Pretending Daniels at the start of last year (fresh of lots of experience at ASU already) or Bennett in 2020 were light years better than Milroe now is damn silly.

Nobody here gives a shite about who plays QB as long as they help Alabama win outside of about 1-2 folks.

But hey, you were excited for the post-Bryce era because he was overrated and "wouldn't be a top 5 pick". Well, here you go.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4298 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:58 pm to
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26 points on MSU


Offense scored 33 on MSU.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:01 pm to
No offense scored 26 points. Defense had a TD and set up offense in red zone before halftime.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:03 pm to
My feelings about Bryce has nothing to do with trying to shoehorn an athlete into the QB position.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:03 pm to
Daniels was head and shoulders above Milroe.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:08 pm to
You guys seem to not understand at Bama where you are surrounded by 4 and 5 stars especially at the QB position you don't have the luxury of waiting to develop for years on end at many other places. Milroe in year 3 is way behind.
Our highly recruited WRs and TEs are retarding their development playing with Milroe. And, now with the one-time immediate transfer rule guys are less likely to sit and wait like the rideout WRs did for better QB play.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4298 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:09 pm to
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set up offense in red zone before halftime.


The 31 is not the redzone. And the offense got the ball back with less than a minute left. They deserve credit for putting up a TD in that time where a lot of teams would settle for a field goal. You can't take points away from the offense just because they had good field position.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105717 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:10 pm to
Jaden Daniels first 3 P5 games (FSU, State, Auburn) at LSU

55/91 (60%)
5.5 YPA
166 YPG
Averaged 25 PPG

Stetson Bennett in 2020
55.5% completion %
8 TD/6 INT
benched for bowl game and backup starting next season

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