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Football Recruiting & Roster ~ Lost Dawg edition
2019 Signing Class | Roster | Transfer Portal
Signing/Counter Limits | Recruiting Calendar
Composite Rankings: Recruit | Team | Talent

2020 Top Targets (27) Commits (22) | Offers

(Commits: bold | Early signees ^ / enrollees *)
Timelines | Note: How Bama can sign 27

Quarterbacks (1-2)
4* ATH Kristian Story 6-1/210 AL hudl ^
4* QB Bryce Young 5-11/183 CA hudl ^ USC

Running Backs (2)
4* RB Roydell Williams 5-10/202 AL hudl ^
5* RB Zachary Evans 5-11/200 TX hudl *
5* RB Jase McClellan 5-10.5/202 TX hudl * OU

Wide Receivers (4-6)
4* WR Thaiu Jones-Bell 5-11/187 FL hudl ^
4* WR Traeshon Holden 6-3/195 CA hudl *
4* WR Javon Baker 6-1/190 GA hudl ^
4* WR Kayshon Boutte 5-10 175 LA hudl ^ LSU
4* WR Jermaine Burton 6-0.5/190 CA hudl ^ LSU
4* WR Arian Smith 6-1/170 FL hudl ^
4* WR Xzavier Henderson 6-3.5/180 FL hudl
4* WR Bryan Robinson 6-1/179 FL hudl *

Tight Ends (1-2)
3* TE Caden Clark 6-3.5/257 OH hudl
5* TE Arik Gilbert 6-5.5/253 GA hudl ^
5* TE Darnell Washington 6-7.5/261 NV hudl

Offensive Line (3-4)
3* OC Seth McLaughlin 6-4/270 GA hudl
3* OG Xavier Hill 6-3/325 MS hudl ^
3* OT Damieon George 6-6.5/348 TX hudl ^
4* OT/DL Jayson Jones 6-6.5/340 AL hudl
4* OG/DT Justin Rogers 6-2.5/311 MI hudl * UK

Defensive Line (3-4)
4* DL Timothy Smith 6-4/340 FL hudl ^
4* DL Jah-Marien Latham 6-3/280 AL hudl
4* DL/OL Omari Thomas 6-5/299 TN hudl ^
4* DE/OLB Reggie Grimes 6-4.5/240 TN hudl ^
5* DE Jordan Burch 6-5/250 SC hudl ^
4* DE Zykeivous Walker 6-4/260 GA hudl *
4* DT McKinnley Jackson 6-2/327 MS hudl
4* DT Jacobian Guillory 6-2/331 LA hudl *
4* DL Jaquelin Roy 6-3.5/289 LA hudl ^ LSU
4* DT Jamil Burroughs 6-2/330 GA hudl UGA

Linebackers (6-8)
4* ILB Demouy Kennedy 6-2/204 AL hudl *
4* ILB Jackson Bratton 6-3/225 AL hudl ^
5* LB Chris Braswell 6-3/220 MD hudl ^
4* LB Will Anderson 6-3/233 GA hudl ^
5* OLB Drew Sanders 6-5/222 TX hudl ^
4* OLB Quan' Robinson 6-5/217 AL hudl ^
4* ILB Jordan Banks 6-1/228 CA hudl ^
4* LB Phillip Webb 6-3.5/224 GA hudl ^
4* ILB Antoine Sampah 6-2.5/220 VA hudl ^ LSU
5* OLB Sav'ell Smalls 6-3/230 WA hudl *
5* ILB/DL Noah Sewell 6-2/266 UT hudl *

Defensive Backs (4-6)
4* S/CB/WR Brian Branch 6-0/182 GA hudl ^
4* S/CB Malachi Moore 6-0/180 AL hudl ^
4* CB Jahquez Robinson 6-1.5/190 FL hudl *
4* CB/S/WR Joel Williams 6-1.5/180 LA hudl ^
4* CB Nadab Joseph 6-2/193 Juco hudl
5* CB Elias Ricks 6-2/192 IMG/CA hudl LSU
4* S Javier Morton 6-2/197 GA hudl

Specialists (0-1)
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2021 Top Targets (25) | Commits (2) | Offers
(Commits: bold | Early signees ^ / enrollees *)

Quarterbacks
4* QB Drake Maye 6-4/200 NC hudl
5* QB Jake Garcia 6-1.5/188 CA hudl

Running Backs
5* RB Camar Wheaton 5-11/190 TX hudl
4* RB LJ Johnson 5-10/204 TX hudl

Wide Receivers
4* WR Ketron Jackson 6-1/175 TX hudl
4* WR Dacari Collins 6-3.5/208 GA hudl
5* WR/CB Emeka Egbuka 6-1/190 WA hudl
5* WR Agiye Hall 6-3/190 FL hudl
5* WR Troy Franklin 6-2/170 CA hudl
5* WR Chris Hilton 5-11.5/169 LA hudl
4* WR Quincy Brown 6-3/175 LA hudl

Tight Ends
4* TE Hudson Wolfe 6-6/235 TN hudl
4* TE Jermaine Terry 6-4/235 CA hudl
4* TE Cane Berrong 6-4.5/220 GA hudl
4* TE Gage Wilcox 6-4/228 FL hudl
3* TE Devon Martin 6-5/240 TX hudl

Offensive Line
5* OT Landon Tengwall 6-6/300 MD hudl
4* OT Kingsley Suamataia 6-5/280 UT hudl
5* OT Amarius Mims 6-7/295 GA hudl
5* OT Donovan Jackson 6-4/308 TX hudl
5* OT Tommy Brockermeyer 6-6/283 TX hudl
5* OL Micah Morris 6-4/316 GA hudl
0* OL Kam Dewberry 6-4/294 TX hudl
4* OL Marcus Tate 6-4.5/326 FL hudl
3* OL Cullen Montgomery 6-5/318 TX hudl
4* OG Greg Crippen 6-4/277 IMG/MA hudl
3* OG Noah Josey 6-5/280 TN hudl

Defensive Line
4* DT Tim Keenan 6-2/340 AL hudl
5* DT Payton Page 6-4/315 NC hudl
4* DT Maason Smith 6-4/316 LA hudl
4* DL Katron Evans 6-4/265 MD hudl
5* DL Lee Hunter 6-5/292 AL hudl
5* DL JT Tuimoloau 6-4.5/277 WA hudl
4* DE Monkell Goodwine 6-4/264 MD hudl
4* DE Tunmise Adeleye 6-3/260 TX hudl
5* DE Korey Foreman 6-4/245 CA hudl
4* DE JC Latham 6-5.5/285 IMG/WI hudl

Linebackers
4* ILB Kendrick Blackshire 6-2/250 TX hudl
4* ATH Xavian Sorey 6-3/214 FL hudl
4* ILB Jonathan Flowe 6-1/225 CA hudl
4* ILB Aaron Willis 6-0/200 MD hudl VT
5* OLB Dylan Brooks 6-5/225 AL hudl
5* ATH Ja'Tavion Sanders 6-3.5/220 TX hudl
4* OLB Travion Ford 6-4/215 MO hudl
3* OLB Chaz Chambliss 6-3/220 GA hudl

Defensive Backs
4* S Derrick Davis Jr. 6-1/194 PA hudl
5* S James Williams 6-5/218 FL hudl
4* S/CB Kaine Williams 6-1/186 LA hidl
4* S/WR David Daniel 6-2/185 GA hudl
4* CB Latrell McCutchin 6-1/176 TX hudl
5* CB Ga'Quincy McKinstry 6-0/175 AL hudl
5* CB Tony Grimes 6-0/180 VA hudl
4* CB Clinton Burton 5-11/170 MD hudl
4* CB Andre Turrentine 6-0/180 TN hudl

Specialists
This post was edited on 8/6 at 8:13 pm


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re: Football Recruiting & Roster ~ Lost Dawg edition
Note: Lists of all offers by position with 247 and hudl links won't be posted anymore. It's too time consuming to monitor for offers and post them. The Offers links in this thread's 1st & 2nd posts provide 247's lists by position, and 247's recruit pages have their highlight videos. You can also easily access a player's hudl page via 247's list. Simply copy the player's name, open a new tab, paste his name and type hudl after it.
This post was edited on 7/17 at 11:08 am


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2019 Signing Class (28) Note | Megathread
(Signees: bold | Early signees ^ / enrollees *)

Offensive Backs (4)
4* QB Taulia Tagovailoa 5-11/210 AL hudl * 5
4* QB Paul Tyson 6-4.5/217 AL hudl * 15
5* RB Trey Sanders 6-0/215 IMG/FL hudl ^ 26
4* RB Keilan Robinson 5-9.5/186 DC hudl 2

Receivers & Tight Ends (2)
4* WR/DB John Metchie 6-0/195 NJ hudl * 3
4* TE/WR Jahleel Billingsley 6-4/228 IL hudl ^ 19

Offensive Line (6)
5* OT Evan Neal 6-7.5/360 IMG/FL hudl * 73
4* OT Amari Kight 6-6.5/315 AL hudl * 78
4* OL Pierce Quick 6-5/291 AL hudl * 72
4* OL Tanner Bowles 6-5/280 KY hudl * 51
4* OC Darrian Dalcourt 6-3/290 MD hudl * 71
5* OL Landon Dickerson 6-5/310 grad-FSU 69

Defensive Line (6)
4* DT DJ Dale 6-3/314 AL hudl * 94
4* DT Ishmael Sopsher 6-4/334 LA hudl 95
4* DL Byron Young 6-3/295 MS hudl 47
5* DE Antonio Alfano 6-4/285 NJ hudl * 56
4* DE Justin Eboigbe 6-5/294 GA hudl * 92
4* DE Braylen Ingraham 6-4/291 FL hudl ^ 52

Linebackers (4)
4* ILB Shane Lee 6-1/235 MD hudl * 35
4* ILB Christian Harris 6-1/235 LA film ^ 8
4* OLB Kevin Harris 6-4/222 GA hudl * 44
4* OLB King Mwikuta 6-5/240 GA hudl ^ 30

Defensive Backs (5)
4* S DeMarcco Hellams 6-1/203 MD hudl ^ 29
4* S/CB Jordan Battle 6-1/187 FL hudl ^ 6
4* CB/S Brandon Turnage 6-1/185 MS hudl ^ 14
4* CB Jeffery Carter 6-0/185 TX hudl * 11
4* CB Marcus Banks 6-0/170 TX hudl ^ 26

Specialists (1)
3* K/P Will Reichard 6-1/185 AL hudl * 16

Key Walk-ons (Commits: bold)
0* TE Richard Hunt 6-7/232 TN hudl PWO
0* P/K Tylan Perine 6-1/195 AL hudl PWO
0* P Jack Martin 6-0/176 AL hudl PWO

Note: OL Landon Dickerson = fall enrollee.

Note: Jersey numbers listed on far right.
This post was edited on 8/22 at 9:47 am


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2018 Signing Class (23) | Megathread
(Numbers notes below)

2017 Blue & Grayshirts (2018 initial counters)
3* OC Hunter Brannon 6-4/290 AL hudl BS 50
3* PK Joseph Bulovas 6-0/212 LA hudl BS 97
4* LB Jarez Parks 6-4/251 FL hudl GS 23

2018 Early Enrollees (midyear replacements)
4* WR Slade Bolden 5-11/200 LA hudl 18
4* DE Stephon Wynn 6-4/299 IMG/SC hudl 90
4* CB Saivion Smith 6-1/200 Juco/FL hudl 4
3* PT Skyler DeLong 6-4/189 SC hudl 12

2018 Summer Enrollees
4* RB Jerome Ford 5-11/206 FL hudl 27
4* WR Jaylen Waddle 5-9/177 TX hudl 17
4* WR Xavier Williams 6-1/182 FL hudl 9
3* TE Michael Parker 6-6/224 AL hudl 80
4* TE/OLB Cameron Latu 6-5/246 UT hudl 81
4* OT Tommy Brown 6-7/309 CA hudl 75
4* OC Emil Ekiyor 6-3/342 IN hudl 55
4* DT Christian Barmore 6-5/292 PA hudl 58
3* DT Tevita Musika 6-1/338 Juco/CA hudl 91
3* ILB Jaylen Moody 6-2/227 SC hudl 42
5* OLB Eyabi Anoma 6-5/245 MD hudl 9
5* CB Patrick Surtain Jr. 6-2/202 FL hudl 2
4* CB Jalyn Armour-Davis 6-1/181 AL hudl 22
4* CB Josh Jobe 6-1/191 FL hudl 28
3* CB Eddie Smith 6-0/184 LA hudl 25

2018 Fall Enrollees
4* ILB Brandon "Ale" Kaho 6-1/228 NV hudl 10

2018 Non-Qualifiers (see Note below)
4* OLB Jordan Davis 6-6/240 TN hudl NQ-Juco

2018 Key Walk-ons
QB Layne Hatcher 6-0/196 AR hudl 18
QB Braxton Barker 6-0/180 AL hudl 7
PK Austin Jones 5-10/215 Grad film 29

Note: 2018's totals = 19 signees and 22 initial counters. 2017's blue and grayshirts are 2018 initial counters but counted as 2017 signees. It also appears that Bama was able to use the voluntary withdrawal exception rule to give someone in the 2018 class (e.g., Michael Parker) a replacement scholarship for Mekhi Brown, who withdrew in 2017. If so, it wouldn't count toward 2018's annual limits (only the 85 limit) and would've left one more unused 2018 spot that a 2019 early enrollee could count against.

Note: Non-qualifier Juco enrollee Jordan Davis did not count toward 2018's 25 signings limit because UA did not give him an NLI to sign.

Note: Jersey numbers listed on far right.
This post was edited on 8/2 at 1:49 pm


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2019 ROSTER (85-man) * = redshirt
** PROJECTED / BEING UPDATED **
(2018 Roster is the next post below)

Quarterback (4)
SR: None
JR: Tua Tagovailoa
SO: Mac Jones*
FR: Paul Tyson, Taulia Tagovailoa

Running Back (6)
SR: None
JR: Najee Harris, Brian Robinson
SO: Chadarius Townsend*
FR: Jerome Ford*, Trey Sanders, Keilan Robinson

Wide Receiver (8)
SR: None
JR: Jerry Jeudy, DeVonta Smith, Henry Ruggs
SO: Tyrell Shavers*, Jaylen Waddle
FR: Xavier Williams*, Slade Bolden*, John Metchie

Tight End (6)
SR: Giles Amos
JR: Miller Forristall*
SO: Major Tennison*
FR: Cameron Latu*, Michael Parker*, Jahleel Billingsley

Offensive Line (16)
SR: Matt Womack*
JR: Deonte Brown*, Chris Owens*, Scott Lashley*, Landon Dickerson*, Alex Leatherwood, Jedrick Wills
SO: Kendall Randolph*, Hunter Brannon*
FR: Emil Ekiyor*, Tommy Brown*, Amari Kight, Evan Neal, Pierce Quick, Tanner Bowles, Darian Dalcourt

Defensive Line (12)
SR: Raekwon Davis, Tevita Musika
JR: LaBryan Ray
SO: Phidarian Mathis*
FR: Stephon Wynn*, Christian Barmore*, DJ Dale, Antonio Alfano, Justin Eboigbe, Byron Young, Ishmael Sopsher, Braylen Ingraham

Inside Linebacker (7)
SR: Joshua McMillon*
JR: Dylan Moses
SO: Markail Benton*, Jaylen Moody, Ale Kaho
FR: Shane Lee, Christian Harris

Outside Linebacker (7)
SR: Anfernee Jennings*
JR: Terrell Lewis*, Ben Davis*
SO: Christopher Allen*
FR: Jarez Parks*, Kevin Harris, King Mwikuta

Safety (6)
SR: Jared Mayden
JR: Xavier McKinney
SO: Daniel Wright*, Eddie Smith
FR: DeMarcco Hellams, Jordan Battle

Cornerback (9)
SR: Trevon Diggs, Shyheim Carter
JR: Nigel Knott*
SO: Patrick Surtain, Josh Jobe
FR: Jalyn Armour-Davis*, Jeffery Carter, Brandon Turnage, Marcus Banks

Specialists (4)
SR: None
JR: Thomas Fletcher
SO: Joseph Bulovas*, Skyler DeLong
FR: Will Reichard

Total: 85

Notes: Elliot Baker and Keaton Anderson have degrees and aren't on the Official 2019 Roster. Per the Transfer Portal: Jalen Hurts transferred to OU, Richie Petitbon to IL, Kyriq McDonald to Cincy, LS Scott Meyer to Vanderbilt. OL Deonte Brown and TE Kedrick James (transferred to SMU) suspended for 1st 4 games. Cameron Latu spring practiced at TE, Chadarius Townsend at RB; official roster lists Latu at TE, Townsend at WR. Ben Davis recovering from surgery for splints, limited for all of spring practice. Grad transer OL Landon Dickerson added to 2019 signing class & roster (#69). OLB Eyabi Anoma dismissed from UA. ILB Joshua McMillon (knee surgery) and RB Trey Sanders (broken foot) injured in fall camp, out indefinitely; Townsend moved to RB. Walk-on TE Giles Amos awarded scholarship, putting UA's total counters at 85.

Roster data for early enrollees (al.com)
#3 - WR John Metchie, 6-0/195
#5 - QB Taulia Tagovailoa, 5-11/209
11 - DB Jeffery “Scooby” Carter, 6-0/186
15 - QB Paul Tyson, 6-5/218
16 - PK Will Reichard, 6-1/185
35 - LB Shane Lee, 6-0/246
44 - LB Kevin Harris II, 6-4/224
51 - OL Tanner Bowles, 6-5/280
56 - DL Antonio Alfano, 6-4/290
71 - OL Darrian Dalcourt, 6-3/292
72 - OL Pierce Quick, 6-5/285
73 - OL Evan Neal, 6-7/360
78 - OL Amari Kight, 6-7/312
92 - DL Justin Ebiogbe, 6-5/284
94 - DL DJ Dale, 6-3/314

Roster data for summer enrollees (BOL)
#2 - RB Keilan Robinson, 5-9/184
#6 - DB Jordan Battle, 6-1/201
#8 - LB Christian Harris, 6-2/244
#14 - DB Brandon Turnage, 6-1/185
#19 - TE Jahleel Billingsley, 6-4/228
#26 - DB Marcus Banks, 6-0/170
#26 - RB Trey Sanders, 6-0/214
#29 - DB DeMarcco Hellams, 6-1/213
#30 - LB King Mwikuta, 6-5/243
#47 - DL Byron Young, 6-3/295
#52 - DL Braylen Ingraham, 6-4/291
#95 - DL Ishmael Sopsher, 6-4/334
This post was edited on 8/21 at 1:43 am


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2018 ROSTER (85-man) * = redshirt
(Updates noted below; 2018 thread)

Quarterback (3)
SR: None
JR: Jalen Hurts
SO: Tua Tagovailoa
FR: Mac Jones*

Running Back (6)
SR: Damien Harris, Ronnie Clark*
JR: Josh Jacobs
SO: Najee Harris, Brian Robinson
FR: Jerome Ford

Wide Receiver (10)
SR: Derek Kief*, Xavian Marks
JR: None
SO: Jerry Jeudy, DeVonta Smith, Henry Ruggs III
FR: Tyrell Shavers*, Chadarius Townsend*, Jaylen Waddle, Xavier Williams, Slade Bolden

Tight End (6)
SR: Hale Hentges
JR: Irv Smith Jr.
SO: Miller Forristall*, Major Tennison, Kedrick James
FR: Michael Parker

Offensive Line (16)
SR: Ross Pierschbacher*, Lester Cotton, Joshua Casher*
JR: Jonah Williams, Matt Womack*, Richie Petitbon*, Elliot Baker*
SO: Deonte Brown*, Scott Lashley*, Chris Owens*, Alex Leatherwood, Jedrick Wills
FR: Kendall Randolph*, Hunter Brannon*, Emil Ekiyor, Tommy Brown

Defensive Line (9)
SR: Isaiah Buggs, Johnny Dwight*
JR: Raekwon Davis, Tevita Musika
SO: Quinnen Williams*, LaBryan Ray
FR: Phidarian Mathis*, Stephon Wynn, Christian Barmore

Inside Linebacker (6)
SR: None
JR: Mack Wilson, Joshua McMillon*
SO: Dylan Moses,
FR: Markail Benton*, Jaylen Moody, Brandon "Ale" Kaho

Outside Linebacker (9)
SR: Christian Miller*, Jamey Mosley*
JR: Anfernee Jennings*, Terrell Lewis
SO: Christopher Allen, Ben Davis*
FR: Jarez Parks, Eyabi Anoma, Cameron Latu

Safety (7)
SR: None
JR: Deionte Thompson*, Jared Mayden, Keaton Anderson*
SO: Xavier McKinney, Daniel Wright
FR: Kyriq McDonald*, Eddie Smith

Cornerback (8)
SR: DJ Lewis
JR: Trevon Diggs, Shyheim Carter, Saivion Smith
SO: Nigel Knott*
FR: Patrick Surtain Jr., Josh Jobe, Jalyn Armour-Davis

Specialists (4)
SR: None
JR: None
SO: Thomas Fletcher, Scott Meyer*
FR: Joseph Bulovas*, Skyler DeLong

Note: As of Feb 7, UA has 85 scholarship players signed for the 2018 season. Any scholarships for potential transfers (QB, DL, LB) or grad transfer kicker Austin Jones (PWO) will require attrition (e.g., graduating RS SRs who rarely play). But it's doubtful that Austin Jones will get a scholarship because it would cost UA an initial counter spot.
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Andrew Bone @AndrewJBone
JuCo DL Tevita Musika signs with #Alabama. He is a member of the 2018 class. He visited Alabama this past weekend. He measured 6-foot-2, 340-pounds. Crimson Tide adds some beef on the thin defensive front.
12:09 pm · Mar 28, 2018
>>> DT Tevita Musika 6-1/338 (Juco/CA) hudl

05/01: Report: Dallas Warmack to transfer from UA after graduation (BamaOnLine)
Note: Warmack's exit makes room for Tevita Musika within the 85 total scholarships limit.

05/08: Report: Reserve OL Brandon Kennedy to transfer from Alabama (BamaOnLine)
Note: Kennedy's exit puts UA's 2018 roster at 84 players on scholarship.

05/25: Alabama lands 2018 QB Layne Hatcher (BamaOnLine)
Note: Hatcher did not receive a scholarship.

07/10: Bama signee Jordan Davis going JUCO route (BamaOnLine)
Note: Davis not enrolling keeps UA's 2018 roster at 84 players on scholarship.

07/09: Alabama dismisses VanDarius Cowan for 'violation of team rules' (BamaOnLine)
Note: Cowan's exit puts UA's 2018 roster at 83 players on scholarship.

07/18: Alabama LB Keith Holcombe will not be a part of 2018 team (BamaOnLine)
Note: Holcombe's departure puts UA's roster at 82 players on scholarship.

08/08: Former 5-star LB Brandon "Ale" Kaho headed to Alabama (BOL)
Note: Kaho puts UA's 2018 roster at 83 players on scholarship.

08/24: Walk-ons Scott Meyer (LS) and DJ Lewis (CB) awarded scholarships -- likely for one year.
Note: Meyer & Lewis put UA's 2018 roster at 85 players on scholarship.

08/27: Alabama releases official depth chart before 2018 season (BamaOnLine)

09/05: Alabama football ranks among national leaders in graduates (BamaOnLine)
Note: 11 scholarship players have degrees.

12/12: UA reserve offensive lineman Richie Petitbon plans to transfer (al.com)

12/14: Alabama football players make up half of UA's winter graduates (BamaOnLine)
Note: 13 scholarship players graduated in Dec.

01/09: 2018 Roster thread tracking of early departures to NFL

01/10: Alabama's season-long participation chart, redshirt candidates (BamaOnLine)

01/10: 2019 CFB Transfer Portal
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Recruiting Calendar - Aug 2019 to Jul 2020

08/01-08/31 - Dead Period - No face-to-face.

09/01-11/30 - Quiet Period - No off-campus;
also 48-hrs before-after August home game.

09/01-11/30 - 42 evaluation days selected by institution; may visit a recruit's school once.

12/01-02/01 - Contact Period - Off-campus;
six in-person contacts (1/week) per recruit.

12/15-12/15 - Quiet Period - No off-campus.

12/16-01/16 - Dead Period - No face-to-face;

12/18-12/20 - Early Signing Period

02/02-02/02 - Quiet Period - No off-campus.

02/03-02/29 - Dead Period - No face-to-face.

02/05-04/01 - National Signing Day / Period

03/01-04/14 - Quiet Period - No off-campus.

04/15-05/31 - Evaluation Period - Off-campus.

06/01-06/21 - Quiet Period - No off-campus.

06/22-07/24 - Dead Period - No face-to-face.

07/24-07/31 - Quiet Period - No off-campus.

Recruiting 101 - The Calendar (Rivals)
Everything to know about official visits
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NCAA Bylaws: Signing and Counter Limits

NCAA Bylaws sections concerning FBS signing and counter limits are posted below. The basic 25/85 (initial/total) scholarship limits are fairly common knowledge, but to help clear up some common misconceptions about them, here are six important things to understand:

1) Transfers (all types) do count toward annual signee and initial counter limits. There's nothing in the Bylaws stating that transfers are exempt. Per section 13.9.2.3, both prospective student-athletes and student-athletes (all-inclusive) do count toward the signee limits. 15.02.3 defines "counter" as an individual (all-inclusive) who is on a countable scholarship. 15.02.3.1 defines “initial counter” as a counter (all-inclusive) who is receiving an initial countable scholarship.

2) Non-qualifiers who signed an NLI still count against their original signee spot and then count against the corresponding initial counter spot at that school if/when they enroll there after JUCO.

3) Grayshirts (15.5.6.3.2) — Deferred enrollees (after fall term) may count toward signing and initial counter limits for the next academic year.

4) Blueshirts (15.5.6.3.4) — The signings limit (effective for the 2018 cycle) ends the ability for non-recruited (no OV, no off-campus meeting, no NLI; 15.02.8) players to receive fall scholarships (within the 85 limit) and count toward the next year's initial counters limit because they'll count toward the current academic year's signing limit (post explaining potential blueshirting loophole).

5) Early enrollees (15.5.6.3.5) that are midyear replacements for December or prior academic year graduates may be counted against unused prior cycle signee and initial counter spots. FBS schools may only use the midyear replacement option if they had 85 counters in the fall term.

6) Non-athletic aid (15.5.6.3.7) — A recruited player (OV, off-campus meeting or NLI; 15.02.8) on non-athletic scholarship only counts toward signee and initial/total limits if/when he plays in a game. Exception (15.5.1.2.1) — A recruited player on academic scholarship, after one year with a 3.0/4.0 GPA, may then play and remain a non-counter. Apparently, a non-recruited player on non-athletic aid may play as a non-counter.

Note: A forum search for "NCAA Bylaws" will retrieve some additional explanatory posts.

Helpful articles: Asking for NLI Release - FAQs;
A deep dive inside the NCAA's tweaked 25-man signing limit; Q&A on 25-Signing Cap, Transfers, Walk-ons, more; What is an academic redshirt?; How is academic redshirt certification different than competition certification?
; When College Coaches Can Contact High School Athletes

NCAA Bylaws: (PDF - free download)

13.9.2.3 Limitation on the Number of National Letter of Intent/Offer of Financial Aid Signings. [FBS] For the football bowl subdivision, there shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of prospective student-athletes who may sign a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid and student-athletes who may sign a financial aid agreement for the first time. (Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)

13.9.2.3.1 Application. [FBS] A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent (NLI) or an institutional offer of financial aid or student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided in the fall term of an academic year shall count toward the annual limit on signings for that academic year. A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent (NLI) or an institutional offer of financial aid or student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided during the second or third term of the academic year may count toward the limit for that academic year or the next academic year. (Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)

15.02.3 Counter. A “counter” is an individual who is receiving institutional financial aid that is countable against the aid limitations in a sport.

15.02.3.1 Initial Counter. An “initial counter” is a counter who is receiving countable financial aid in a sport for the first time. (See Bylaw 15.5.6.3 in football for instances in which the institution is permitted to defer the counting of such financial aid until the following academic year.)

15.02.8 Recruited Student-Athlete. For purpose of Bylaw 15, a recruited student-athlete is a student-athlete who, as a prospective student-athlete: (Adopted: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)
(a) Was provided an official visit to the institution’s campus;
(b) Had an arranged, in-person, off-campus encounter with a member of the institution’s coaching staff (including any such encounter with the prospective student-athlete’s parents, relatives or legal guardians); or
(c) Was issued a National Letter of Intent or a written offer of athletically related financial aid by the institution for a regular academic term.

The NCAA Bylaws concerning how players are counted against the 25 initial counters and 85 total counters limits are in the next post.
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NCAA Bylaws:

15.5.6 Football Limitations.

15.5.6.1 Bowl Subdivision Football. [FBS] There shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of initial counters (per Bylaw 15.02.3.1) and an annual limit of 85 on the total number of counters (including initial counters) in football at each institution. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/92, 12/15/06)

15.5.6.3 Initial Counters—Football (Also see Bylaw 15.02.3.1).

15.5.6.3.1 Recruited Student-Athlete Entering in Fall Term, Aided in First Year. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete recruited (see Bylaw 15.02.8) by the awarding institution who enters in the fall term and receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) during the first academic year in residence shall be an initial counter for that year in football. Therefore, such aid shall not be awarded if the institution has reached its limit on the number of initial counters prior to the award of institutional financial aid to the student-athlete.(Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.2 Recruited Student-Athlete Entering After Fall Term, Aided in First Year. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.8) by the awarding institution who enters after the first term of the academic year and immediately receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) shall be an initial counter for either the current academic year (if the institution’s annual limit has not been reached) or the next academic year. The student-athlete shall be included in the institution’s total counter limit during the academic year in which the aid was first received. (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.3 Recruited Student-Athlete, Aid Received After First Year. [FBS/FCS] A recruited student-athlete (per Bylaw 15.02.8) (including a student-athlete who was not a qualifier) who first receives athletically related financial aid after the student-athlete’s first academic year in residence shall be an initial counter for that academic year in which the aid is first received, if such aid is received during the fall term. However, such a student athlete who first receives athletically related financial aid in the second or third term of an academic year may be considered an initial counter during the academic year in which aid was first received or the next academic year. In either case, the student-athlete shall be included in the institution’s total counter limit during the academic year in which the aid was first received. (Revised: 1/3/06, 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.4 Nonrecruited Student-Athlete Receiving Institutional Financial Aid. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete not recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.8) by the institution who receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) after beginning football practice becomes a counter but need not be counted as an initial counter until the next academic year if the institution has reached its initial limit for the year in question. However, the student-athlete shall be considered in the total counter limit for the academic year in which the aid was first received. (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.5 Midyear Replacement. [FBS/FCS] A counter who graduates at midyear or who graduates during the previous academic year (including summer) may be replaced by an initial counter, who shall be counted against the initial limit either for the year in which the aid is awarded (if the institution’s annual limit has not been reached) or for the following academic year, or by a student-athlete who was an initial counter in a previous academic year and is returning to the institution after time spent on active duty in the armed services or on an official religious mission. In bowl subdivision football, an institution may use the midyear replacement exception only if it previously has provided financial aid during that academic year to the maximum number of overall counters (85 total counters). In championship subdivision football, an institution may use the midyear replacement exception only if it previously has provided financial aid during that academic year that equals the maximum number of overall equivalencies or overall counters. (Revised: 4/20/99 effective 8/1/99, 6/8/99, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01, 8/2/05, 12/15/06, 1/14/08 effective 8/1/08, 4/2/10, 1/15/11)

15.5.6.3.6 Aid First Awarded After Second Year. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete who has been in residence at the certifying institution for at least two academic years may receive athletically related financial aid for the first time without such aid counting as an initial award, provided the aid falls within the overall grant limitation. (Adopted: 1/11/89, Revised: 1/10/90 effective 8/1/90)

15.5.6.3.7 Recruited Student-Athlete, Varsity Competition. [FBS/FCS] In accordance with Bylaw 15.5.1.2, a recruited student-athlete (per Bylaw 15.02.8) receiving institutional financial aid certified as having been granted without regard in any degree to athletics ability becomes an initial counter in the first academic year in which the student-athlete competes on the varsity level. (See Bylaw 15.5.1.2.1.) (Revised: 10/27/05 effective 8/1/06, 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.8 Returning Two-Year Transfer. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete who previously was an initial counter and who transferred to a two-year college shall not be an initial counter upon return to the original institution.

15.5.6.3.9 Delayed Initial Counter Who Does Not Return to School. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete who receives countable financial aid but whose status as an initial counter under this bylaw is delayed until the following academic year shall be counted against the initial limit the following academic year, regardless of whether the student-athlete reports for participation or attends the institution in that academic year.

15.5.6.4 Exceptions.

15.5.6.4.1 Voluntary Withdrawal. [FBS/FCS] An institution may replace a counter who voluntarily withdraws from the football team by providing the financial aid to another student who already has enrolled in the institution and is a member of the football squad. For this replacement to occur, the counter must withdraw prior to the first day of classes or before the first game of the season, whichever is earlier, and provide the institution with a signed statement releasing the institution from its obligation to provide institutional financial aid and verifying the voluntary nature of the withdrawal. The institution may immediately (beginning with the fall term) award the financial aid to a student-athlete who has been a member of the team for at least one academic year and has not previously received athletically related financial aid. A student-athlete who has not been a member of the team for at least one academic year may not receive the financial aid during the fall term, but may receive it in a following term (e.g., spring semester, winter quarter). (Revised: 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05)
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How Bama can sign 27 in the 2020 cycle:

Bama took 27 in the 2019 cycle. However, 2018-class late addition QB Layne Hatcher wasn't on a scholarship and 2018-class non-qualifier Jordan Davis didn't sign an NLI. So they didn't count toward any signing or counter limits, resulting in two unused 2018-19 signing and initial counter spots that two 2019-class early enrollees could be counted against.

Also, 2019-class early enrollees Paul Tyson and Will Reichard didn't sign NLIs. It appears that was done so they could receive scholarships as replacements (under the voluntary withdrawal exception rule -- NCAA Bylaw 15.5.6.4.1) for Vandarious Cowan and Keith Holcombe, who withdrew from the team before the 2018 fall term. Per that rule, they would count toward the 85 total counters limit, but not the annual 25 signings and 25 initial counters limits.

It also appears that Bama was able to use the voluntary withdrawal exception rule to give someone in the 2018 class (e.g., Michael Parker) a replacement scholarship for Mekhi Brown, who withdrew in 2017. If so, it wouldn't have counted toward any annual 25 limits (only the 85 limit) and would've left one more unused 2018 spot that a 2019 early enrollee could count against.

The net result of the 2019-cycle backcounting enabled by the above would result in Bama having three unused 2019 signing and initial counter spots available for backcounting three 2020 early enrollees. But grad-transfer Landon Dickerson uses one of those three 2019 spots, leaving two.

Bottom line: I think Bama can sign 27 (25 + 2 backcounted early enrollees) without requiring any gray shirting.

ETA: It seems to me Seth McLaughlin may be willing to grayshirt if needed to sign a 28th recruit (just my own speculation).

ETA: Since more guys have withdrawn and transferred out, Bama may be able to use the voluntary withdrawl exception again to bypass the 25 signings and initial counters limits, if there's room under the 85 total counters limit.

Note: See next post for more details about the voluntary withdrawal exception rule. The rule itself is at the bottom of the post above.
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The voluntary withdrawal exception rule doesn't simply give you a replacement scholarship (that doesn't count against annual limits) for every player who voluntarily withdraws from the team that you can then immediately provide to any new incoming recruit or transfer.

It appears thar the replacement player has to be enrolled without a scholarship and be a member of the team before he can receive a voluntary withdrawl replacement scholarship; i.e., he has to be a walk-on first. Also, if an incoming player has already signed an NLI or scholarship agreement, he will count against the annual signings limit for the academic year in which he initially receives financial aid.

That's why Tyson did not sign an NLI or aid agreement prior to enrolling. Instead he practiced with the team in December, probably paid his own way as a walk-on for the very short miniterm that's during the break between the fall and spring semesters, and then got the replacement scholarship for the regular full spring semester.

Reichard also didn't sign, but he enrolled in January, so he probably paid his way as a walk-on for the short spring-1 term and then got the replacement scholarship for the spring-2 term. Bama offers some courses that way.

A replacement player (e.g., 2018-class summer enrollee Michael Parker) could also establish his status as a walkon quickly and cheaply by paying his own way for a short summer-1 or summer-2 miniterm.

It's also important to understand that the two guys Tyson and Reichard replaced, voluntarily withdrew from the team before the prior fall term classes and playing season started. Per the rule, Tyson and Reichard could receive replacement scholarships after that fall term without having been on the team as a walk-on for a full year.
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2020 Additional Prospects
(Early signee ^ / enrollee *)

Offense
4* QB Malik Hornsby 6-2/175 TX hudl
4* QB CJ Dixon 6-5/210 GA hudl
3* QB Jaden Casey 6-1/185 CA hudl Fresno
4* QB Carson Beck 6-4/226 FL hudl UGA
4* RB Keyvone Lee 6-0/223 FL hudl
4* RB Ashaad Johnson 6-0/200 LA hudl
5* RB Kendall Milton 6-1.5/229 CA hudl * UGA
4* RB Tank Bigsby 6-0/210 GA hudl AU
4* RB/DB Sam Adams 6-2/200 WA hudl UW
4* RB Seth McGowan 5-11.5/215 TX hudl OU
5* APB Chris Tyree 5-9/178 VA hudl ND
4* WR Darin Turner 6-2.5/206 TN hudl
5* WR Rakim Jarrett 6-0/182 DC hudl LSU
5* WR Julian Fleming 6-3/210 PA hudl tOSU
4* WR Dazalin Worsham 6-0/185 AL hudl
4* WR/DB Marc Britt 6-2/190 FL hudl
4* WR Jordan Johnson 6-2/180 MO hudl ND
4* WR EJ Williams 6-3/188 AL hudl *
4* WR JJ Evans 6-2/185 AL hudl AU
4* WR Marcus Rosemy 6-2/187 FL hudl UGA
4* TE DJ Rogers 6-3/230 WA hudl
4* OG Chris Morris 6-3.5/287 TN hudl
4* OC Sedrick Van Pran 6-4/305 LA hudl
4* OT Marcus Dumervil 6-5/300 FL hudl
4* OT Tate Ratledge 6-6.5/306 GA hudl UGA
4* OT Chad Lindberg 6-6/306 TX hudl UGA
4* OT Jalen Rivers 6-6/331 FL hudl Miami
4* OT Paul Tchio 6-5/325 GA hudl CU

Defense
2022: 4* OT Andrew Gentry 6-8/310 CO hudl
4* DT Branard Wright 6-3/300 TX hudl
4* DE Jay Hardy 6-4/270 TN hudl
4* DE Andy Boykin 6-3.5/262 GA hudl
5* DE Myles Murphy 6-5/255 GA hudl CU
5* DE Bryan Bresee 6-5/290 MD hudl CU
4* DE Darrion Henry 6-4.5/279 OH hudl tOSU
4* DE Vernon Broughton 6-5/280 TX hudl
4* DE Alfred Collins 6-5/245 TX hudl
4* DE Tyler Baron 6-4.5/248 TN hudl
4* DL Gervon Dexter 6-6.5/276 FL hudl UF
4* OLB Donell Harris 6-4/210 FL hudl ^
5* ILB Justin Flowe 6-2/225 CA hudl
5* LB Mekhail Sherman 6-3/234 DC hudl UGA
4* LB BJ Ojulari 6-3/224 GA hudl
3* ATH De'Rickey Wright 6-4/220 AL hudl OM
4* S Xavion Alford 6-0.5/188 TX hudl * TX
4* CB Ethan Pouncey 6-1/160 FL hudl TX
4* CB Dwight McGlothern 6-1.5/180 TX hudl
5* CB Kelee Ringo 6-2/205 AZ hudl
4* CB Jalen Kimber 6-1.5/180 TX hudl * UGA
4* CB Demorie Tate 6-2/189 FL hudl FSU

2021 Additional Prospects
(Early signee ^ / enrollee *)

4* QB Jalen Milroe 6-1.5/194 TX hudl Texas
5* QB Preston Stone 6-2/200 TX hudl
5* QB Caleb Williams 6-1/190 DC hudl
4* QB Miller Moss 6-2/197 CA hudl
4* WR Cody Jackson 6-0/169 TX hudl OU
4* CB/S Kamar Wilcoxson 6-2/190 GA hudl UF
This post was edited on 8/18 at 3:55 pm


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