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re: Class of 2019 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: That's a Wrap Edition
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:00 pm to TideSaint
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:00 pm to TideSaint
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JOHN METCHIE
Evaluation: Metchie's versatility as a wide receiver is extremely valuable for a team like Alabama because he has very few weak points in his game and he can excel on routes all over the field. More of a long-strider, Metchie can get down field in a hurry but his real bread and butter are short and intermediate routes over the middle and towards the sideline because of his length. He is only about 6-feet tall, but his long arms and leaping ability allow him to play like a bigger receiver.
Impact: Alabama is only taking a couple wide receivers in this recruiting class and Metchie was a major target for them because of how well he will complement the receivers already on Alabama's roster. Metchie's skill set will help the receiving corps stay well-rounded and ready to run just about any route with success. Expect him to settle into the Alabama offense and be a reliable target for the Crimson Tide quarterbacks.
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:03 pm to TideSaint
The next post is a copy of the 1st post in the 2018 Recruiting Megathread. It's been updated to reflect Jordan Davis enrolling in Juco. There is a handy link to it on the second line of the 1st post in this thread.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:03 pm to TidalSurge1
247 Composite Rankings: Recruits | Teams
2018 ALABAMA RECRUITING CLASS (24)
2018 Early Enrollees (incl. 2 blue, 1 grayshirt)
3* OC Hunter Brannon 6-4/290 AL hudl (BS)
3* PK Joseph Bulovas 6-0/212 LA hudl (BS)
4* LB Jarez Parks 6-3/255 FL hudl (GS)
4* CB Saivion Smith 6-1/175 Juco/FL hudl
4* Ath Slade Bolden 5-11/200 LA hudl
4* DE Stephon Wynn 6-4/280 IMG/SC hudl
3* PT Skyler DeLong 6-4/180 SC hudl
2018 Summer Enrollees
3* QB Layne Hatcher 6-1/204 AR hudl
4* RB Jerome Ford 5-11/195 FL hudl
4* WR Jaylen Waddle 5-9/175 TX hudl
4* Ath Xavier Williams 6-1/185 FL hudl
3* TE Michael Parker 6-6/230 AL hudl
4* OT Tommy Brown 6-7/315 CA hudl
4* OC Emil Ekiyor 6-4/330 IN hudl
4* DT Christian Barmore 6-5/290 PA hudl
3* DT Tevita Musika 6-2/340 Juco/CA hudl
5* LB Eyabi Anoma 6-5/230 MD hudl
4* LB Cameron Latu 6-5/240 UT hudl
3* LB Jaylen Moody 6-2/225 SC hudl
5* CB Patrick Surtain Jr. 6-2/195 FL hudl
4* CB Jalyn Armour-Davis 6-1/175 AL hudl
4* CB Josh Jobe 6-1/180 FL hudl
4* CB Eddie Smith 6-1/180 LA hudl
2018 Signees
4* LB Jordan Davis 6-6/240 TN hudl
2018 Key PWO Summer Enrollees
QB Braxton Barker 6-0/180 AL hudl
PK Austin Jones 5-10/196 Grad film
Note: 24 signees and 23 initial counters. Juco enrollee Jordan Davis will be an initial counter if/when he enrolls at UA.
2018 ALABAMA RECRUITING CLASS (24)
2018 Early Enrollees (incl. 2 blue, 1 grayshirt)
3* OC Hunter Brannon 6-4/290 AL hudl (BS)
3* PK Joseph Bulovas 6-0/212 LA hudl (BS)
4* LB Jarez Parks 6-3/255 FL hudl (GS)
4* CB Saivion Smith 6-1/175 Juco/FL hudl
4* Ath Slade Bolden 5-11/200 LA hudl
4* DE Stephon Wynn 6-4/280 IMG/SC hudl
3* PT Skyler DeLong 6-4/180 SC hudl
2018 Summer Enrollees
3* QB Layne Hatcher 6-1/204 AR hudl
4* RB Jerome Ford 5-11/195 FL hudl
4* WR Jaylen Waddle 5-9/175 TX hudl
4* Ath Xavier Williams 6-1/185 FL hudl
3* TE Michael Parker 6-6/230 AL hudl
4* OT Tommy Brown 6-7/315 CA hudl
4* OC Emil Ekiyor 6-4/330 IN hudl
4* DT Christian Barmore 6-5/290 PA hudl
3* DT Tevita Musika 6-2/340 Juco/CA hudl
5* LB Eyabi Anoma 6-5/230 MD hudl
4* LB Cameron Latu 6-5/240 UT hudl
3* LB Jaylen Moody 6-2/225 SC hudl
5* CB Patrick Surtain Jr. 6-2/195 FL hudl
4* CB Jalyn Armour-Davis 6-1/175 AL hudl
4* CB Josh Jobe 6-1/180 FL hudl
4* CB Eddie Smith 6-1/180 LA hudl
2018 Signees
4* LB Jordan Davis 6-6/240 TN hudl
2018 Key PWO Summer Enrollees
QB Braxton Barker 6-0/180 AL hudl
PK Austin Jones 5-10/196 Grad film
Note: 24 signees and 23 initial counters. Juco enrollee Jordan Davis will be an initial counter if/when he enrolls at UA.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:03 pm to TideSaint
A look at the top-ranked defensive ends in Rivals.com history
This article mentions Da'Shawn Hand, but I'm posting it because of Thibodeaux.
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The off-season is a time for reflection and at Rivals.com we thought it would be interesting to take a look at our highest ranked players in history by position. Today we look at the defensive ends led by the best player I’ve ever seen in high school.
This article mentions Da'Shawn Hand, but I'm posting it because of Thibodeaux.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:06 pm to TideSaint
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Kayvon Thibodeaux - No. 4, 2019
Recruiting: The top-ranked prospect in California for the 2019 recruiting class, Thibodeaux is taking his time with his recruitment. USC, Alabama and Florida State seem to have an edge for the five-star prospect but LSU and others are also involved.
Overview: In his junior season at Westlake Village (Calif.) Oaks Christian, Thibodeaux finished with 99 tackles and 20 sacks.
Farrell’s take: Some people call Thibodeaux the best defensive line prospect in 20 years or more. While I don’t see that, he is pretty special and can get after the passer like few others. Time will tell how he develops as he still has a year to either rise or fall on this list, but either way he’s an elite prospect.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:07 pm to YStar
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Wright on the other hand didn't look anything like a 5-star.
Outside of a few 1 on 1's, he actually looked very good. Was universally considered one of the five best OL performers at the Opening.
And regardless of what you hear on the net, Bama still feels like they're in the lead.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:09 pm to TidalSurge1
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Per BOL Bama's just in very early stages of talking to the two guys mentioned. If Holcombe will do another season, it seems like that might be a better way to go. Any transfer brought in will cost us a spot for a 2019 recruit. Not worth it if we can avoid it, imo.
What? I'm confused. Why would a one-year grad transfer have any bearing at all on the 2019 class? They wouldn't even still be at Bama in 2019. It would just be for the 2018 playing season. Why would it not count against a previous class, and against the 85 limit?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:10 pm to TideSaint
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Farrell’s take: Some people call Thibodeaux the best defensive line prospect in 20 years or more. While I don’t see that, he is pretty special and can get after the passer like few others. Time will tell how he develops as he still has a year to either rise if he commits to not Alabama, or fall if he commits to Alabama, on this list, but either way he’s an elite prospect.
Fixed that for Rivals.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:12 pm to Robot Santa
Yup.Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:17 pm to TidalSurge1
I love how they have great things to say about prospects then rate them like shite.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:30 pm to TideSaint
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JOHN METCHIE
I’m not an evaluator, but the descriptions of him remind me if Norwood.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:31 pm to Tide or Die87
Hank South on 2020 5-star DE Sav'ell Smalls:
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Very legit. Alabama is trending. I kind of like to wait on Crystal Balls this far out but if he committed today it would be Alabama IMO.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:35 pm to TideSaint
247 is releasing their updated rankings tomorrow.
Should be pretty interesting.
Should be pretty interesting.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:50 pm to TideSaint
Hopefully their rankings help our guys in the composite. Their current rankings under value several of our guys pretty significantly IMO.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:18 pm to tider04
Saw some stuff on Henry To'oto'o and Bama tonight that had me feeling giddy. Would like to see if some mods on other sites will confirm.
Could some of you guys ask around?
Two things happened in the past couple days. Rodney Orr randomly linked his highlight film. He doesn't do that without good reason, generally. It almost always means he's hearing something very positive. Also another one of the guys on my end mentioned that Bama feels really REALLY good about where it stands with him. Sounds like we might have gotten some really good reason to believe we're in the driver's seat at the moment. Keep your fingers crossed.
Could some of you guys ask around?
Two things happened in the past couple days. Rodney Orr randomly linked his highlight film. He doesn't do that without good reason, generally. It almost always means he's hearing something very positive. Also another one of the guys on my end mentioned that Bama feels really REALLY good about where it stands with him. Sounds like we might have gotten some really good reason to believe we're in the driver's seat at the moment. Keep your fingers crossed.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:21 pm to Bama3714
Would we be getting him because we don’t feel good about Dean? Or could we possibly land them both? That would be disgusting in the most amazing way possible.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:24 pm to Bama3714
Post more pics Cobra. 
You're doing a good job man.
You're doing a good job man. Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:27 pm to Bama3714
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What? I'm confused. Why would a one-year grad transfer have any bearing at all on the 2019 class? They wouldn't even still be at Bama in 2019. It would just be for the 2018 playing season. Why would it not count against a previous class, and against the 85 limit?
We have one unused 2018 signee spot and matching initial counter spot remaining that can be used to count a 2019 class early enrollee against. Any transfer that's taken will be counted against that 2018 spot. All we'll have then is our 25 spots for 2019. So that's one less recruit we can sign for the 2019 cycle. As of NSD we had three unused 2018 spots. Since then, Musika (Juco transfer) used one and Hatcher used one. We have just one left. Any transfer taken will use that spot.
ALL transfers count against the 25 signees per academic year limit and the 25 initial counters and 85 total counters limits. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't know or understand the NCAA Bylaws pertaining to signee and counter limits.
The only exception is a juco transfer like Jordan Davis. He has already counted against our 2018 25 signees limit (we don't get that signee spot back), but he won't count as an initial counter until he enrolls on scholarship at Bama. He spent the signee spot that goes with his unused 2018 initial counter spot. His unused initial counter spot will get used by a 2019 early enrollee. That'll result in an "extra" 2019 initial counter spot that'll get used by a 2020 early enrollee. And that'll result in an "extra" 2020 initial counter spot for Davis to use when he enrolls at Bama. He won't count a 2nd time against signee limits. That's how the signee spot shortage caused by him not qualifying gets reconciled. It's designed that way to encourage the original school that a non-qualifier signed with to take him when he graduates from Juco.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 7:49 am
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:37 pm to TidalSurge1
TS, do you have a link to the rule about a grad transfer counting against the 25 signee limit? Never heard that before and that makes absolutely zero sense. If it’s a rule, it needs to be changed ASAP. It’s almost like the NCAA doesn’t want to help these young guys get college educations.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:44 pm to tider04
Here are the NCAA Bylaws sections petaining to FBS signee and counter limits. This is worth bookmarking or copying and saving somewhere for future reference.
Bylaw 13.9.2.3 states that both prospective student-athletes and student-athletes (e.g., transfers) count against the 25 signees limit. Bylaw 15.02.3 defines the term "counter" as an individual on scholarship. There is nothing in the Bylaws stating that transfers are excluded from counting toward the annual 25 signees and 25 initial counters limits.
NCAA Bylaws
13.9.2.3 Limitation on Number of National Letter of Intent/Offer of Financial Aid Signings — Bowl Subdivision Football. [FBS] In bowl subdivision football, there shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of prospective student-athletes who may sign a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid and student-athletes who may sign a financial aid agreement for the first time. [D] (Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)
13.9.2.3.1 Application. [FBS] A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided in the fall term of an academic year shall count toward the annual limit on signings for that academic year. A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided during the second or third term of the academic year may count toward the limit for that academic year or the limit for the next academic year. (Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)
15.02.3 Counter. A “counter” is an individual who is receiving institutional financial aid that is countable against the aid limitations in a sport.
15.02.3.1 Initial Counter. An “initial counter” is a counter who is receiving countable financial aid in a sport for the first time. (See Bylaw 15.5.6.3 in football for instances in which the institution is permitted to defer the counting of such financial aid until the following academic year.)
I'll post the rest of the other NCAA Bylaws sections pertaining how players are counted against the 25 initial counters and 85 total counters limits next.
Bylaw 13.9.2.3 states that both prospective student-athletes and student-athletes (e.g., transfers) count against the 25 signees limit. Bylaw 15.02.3 defines the term "counter" as an individual on scholarship. There is nothing in the Bylaws stating that transfers are excluded from counting toward the annual 25 signees and 25 initial counters limits.
NCAA Bylaws
13.9.2.3 Limitation on Number of National Letter of Intent/Offer of Financial Aid Signings — Bowl Subdivision Football. [FBS] In bowl subdivision football, there shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of prospective student-athletes who may sign a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid and student-athletes who may sign a financial aid agreement for the first time. [D] (Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)
13.9.2.3.1 Application. [FBS] A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided in the fall term of an academic year shall count toward the annual limit on signings for that academic year. A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided during the second or third term of the academic year may count toward the limit for that academic year or the limit for the next academic year. (Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)
15.02.3 Counter. A “counter” is an individual who is receiving institutional financial aid that is countable against the aid limitations in a sport.
15.02.3.1 Initial Counter. An “initial counter” is a counter who is receiving countable financial aid in a sport for the first time. (See Bylaw 15.5.6.3 in football for instances in which the institution is permitted to defer the counting of such financial aid until the following academic year.)
I'll post the rest of the other NCAA Bylaws sections pertaining how players are counted against the 25 initial counters and 85 total counters limits next.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 9:02 am
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