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re: Class of 2018 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: So Long Old Friend Edition

Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:30 am to
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:30 am to
From the guy on BOL who is friends with Josh Jobe's prep school coach:

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Was with my buddy tonight and he told me it's not gonna be smooth


This is in regards to Jobe's academic situation.

Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:37 am to
Breaking down Alabama’s signees, targets playing in U.S. Army All-American Bowl

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Alabama signees and targets playing in Army Bowl

Numerous Alabama signees and targets will head to San Antonio, Texas, beginning on Sunday to check in for the U.S. Army All-American Bowl, which kicks off at 1 p.m. ET on Jan. 6. The game will air on NBC. SEC Country will have multiple reporters in San Antonio all week providing coverage on the recruits considering Alabama and other SEC schools.

Here’s a look at the players at the game who are considering the Tide and the signees that Alabama got during the early signing period.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:37 am to
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Signees

Jalyn Armour-Davis, 4-star cornerback, St. Paul’s Episcopal (Mobile, Ala.)

Emil Ekiyor, 4-star center, Cathedral (Indianapolis) — Ekiyor won’t play in the game as he sits out with an injury

Josh Jobe, 4-star cornerback, Cheshire (Conn.) Academy

Skyler Delong, 3-star punter, Nation Ford (Fort Mill, S.C.)
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:38 am to
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Targets


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Tyson Campbell, 5-star cornerback, American Heritage (Plantation, Fla.)

Campbell has been the Tide’s top target at cornerback pretty much since the start of the year. It looked like Alabama was in excellent position to land Campbell when he visited during the summer. There was a lot of momentum on the Tide’s side, but, as recruiting goes, the visit high died down and Georgia and Miami started to gain ground. It seems like it’ll be a three-team race to land Campbell’s signature. Alabama has a wide-open depth chart it can sell to Campbell with the team likely losing six defensive backs after this season.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:38 am to
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Kelvin Joseph, 4-star safety, Scotlandville Magnet (Baton Rouge, La.)

Joseph almost flipped from LSU to Alabama last year, but he decided to hold off on making that move. He has since de-committed from the Tigers, but it looks like he’ll end up in LSU’s class. Alabama is trying to get him back on campus before he makes his final decision.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:38 am to
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Tanner McKee, 4-star quarterback, Centennial (Corona, Calif.)

McKee is arguably the most interesting prospect in the 2018 class because he’s one of the highest-rated recruits in this cycle but he won’t play college football until 2020. He’ll do a two-year Mormon mission trip after he graduates from high school. He’s planning on committing to a school in February but won’t sign his letter of intent until 2020. Alabama, BYU, Stanford and Texas are the main teams in the mix. The Crimson Tide are heavily recruiting him.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:39 am to
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JJ Peterson, 4-star linebacker, Colquitt County (Moultrie, Ga.)

Peterson has been a major Alabama target for more than a year, but there may not have been a recruit more affected by Jeremy Pruitt leaving the Tide for Tennessee. Peterson’s coach at Colquitt County is Rush Propst, who hired Pruitt on his staff at Hoover High School.


ETA: I know Tennessee will have to stop recruiting Peterson if Probst is hired to an off the field role on Pruitt's staff, but what would happen in this scenario:

Peterson signs with UT in February. Then, a week later Rush Probst is hired in an off the field role on Pruitt's staff.

Thoughts?
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 8:44 am
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:39 am to
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Penei Sewell, 4-star guard, Desert Hills (Saint George, Utah)

Sewell has been one of Alabama’s top offensive line targets since the summer. He’ll likely end up choosing Alabama or Oregon. He has a very close relationship with Ducks coach Mario Cristobal but he knows that the Tide’s offensive line success over the years is much better than Oregon’s. He was going to make his decision during the early signing period, but he decided to hold off. That’s how close this recruitment is.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:42 am to
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Patrick Surtain Jr., 5-star cornerback, American Heritage (Plantation, Fla.)

Surtain has listed LSU as his leader for more than a year, but for some reason he hasn’t committed to the Tigers. I still think LSU is the team to beat, but maybe Alabama can make a late run at him next month.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:42 am to
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Isaac Taylor-Stuart, 5-star cornerback, Helix (San Diego, Calif.)

Taylor-Stuart listed Alabama as his leader at one point during his recruitment. Last year, he visited Tuscaloosa during the summer and named the Tide his leader and that held for several months. His interest in Bama waned a bit and schools such as Georgia, Texas A&M and USC started gaining ground. Alabama had other targets ahead of Taylor-Stuart on the board, but with Nadab Joseph flipping from Alabama to Georgia during the early signing period, that may open a spot for Taylor-Stuart.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:42 am to
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Jaylen Waddle, 4-star wide receiver, Episcopal (Bellaire, Texas)

Waddle looked like he was a near certainty to end up in Alabama’s class, but that has changed. Texas A&M has turned into a giant threat to land one of the nation’s top slot receivers since Jimbo Fisher was hired.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:47 am to
Pat Surtain Sr. details the latest on LSU’s push for nation’s top cornerback

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LSU has been the unquestioned leader for Patrick Surtain Jr. for almost 18 months. The 5-star cornerback has never been shy when discussing his affinity for the program or for defensive backs coach Corey Raymond.

The question now is whether that longtime lead will culminate in a commitment on Feb. 7.

Nobody has a better grasp on Surtain’s decision than Pat Surtain Sr., the younger Surtain’s father and the state championship-winning football coach at American Heritage (Fla.) High School. A New Orleans native who was lightly recruited by LSU coming out of Edna Karr (La.) High School, the elder Surtain can see why his son, the nation’s top-ranked cornerback, is high on the Tigers.

“Nothing is official yet, but I know why LSU is on the top,” Surtain Sr. told SEC Country. “He’s been liking that school for a long time now. Not that other teams aren’t in the mix, but right now, LSU is in the lead.

“The success that Corey has had with his defensive backs, they put a bunch of guys in the NFL and that’s his ultimate goal. When we went down for LSU-Alabama [in November 2016], the environment was second to none. There’s nothing like it. He liked that environment. It’s big-time college football. … It’s about the right fit and about him being comfortable. You can go to the league from any school, but he needs the right relationship with the coaches and getting a feel with the academic side.”

The relationships are paramount to Surtain’s National Signing Day decision and he has openly discussed his longtime bond with Raymond. LSU’s defensive backs coach has been courting the 5-star Florida native for years and hosted for a slew of unofficial visits. In January, he’ll host Surtain for his official visit ahead of his final decision.

Raymond has not only recruited the U.S. Army All-American, but he forged a critical bond with his mother and father. All three are natives of Louisiana and all three have often discussed why LSU would be a good landing spot for Surtain Jr.

“It’s hands-on,” Surtain Sr. said of his bond with Raymond. “Corey has been on the highest level of football and knows what it takes. I remember sitting in the meeting rooms, seeing how he communicated with players and how the players respected him. He gets it across. He’s a smart guy and relays the defense.

“He can teach him [Surtain Jr.] things when I’m not there and I’ll be satisfied. He’s a good dude off the field, and most importantly, the players respect him. That goes a long way with him [Surtain Jr.].”

The 6-foot-3, 195-pound Surtain has been vocal about the Tigers’ lead, despite keeping schools such as Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson and Florida State in the fold. Surtain’s admiration for Raymond is documented, but his longtime fandom of the LSU football program often goes under the radar.

Surtain was born and raised in South Florida, but his father hails from New Orleans and his mother, Michelle Surtain, has family in Baton Rouge and Donaldsonville, La. That has led to plenty of familiarity with the Tigers in his lifetime.

“For him to have a recollection of LSU at an early age, that’s the team that stood out to him,” Surtain Sr. recalled. “We never pushed LSU down his throat. Their style of play, their crowd, their players stuck out to him … Having family there is important. He has to go somewhere he feels comfortable, whether it’s LSU or Florida State or the other schools he’s thinking about. I don’t know whether he has that sense or feeling with the other schools yet, but going to LSU, when he went he hung out with the fellas and had some comfortability there. Who knows the next time? He’s going to take his time to make sure he makes the right decision.”

Surtain Jr. is bracing for a critical stretch in his long-winding recruitment. After competing in the Army All-American Bowl in January, he’ll begin to take his official visits. LSU, of course, will get a weekend with the nation’s No. 5-ranked prospect.

Surtain Sr. has taken a step back to let his son wrestle with the decision. So has his mother. However, having extended family in Louisiana is not something to look past. It’s not the sole factor, but it could play a role in that highly sought-after level of comfortability.

“It does help that we have family there,” Surtain Sr. explained. “My side of the family is in Baton Rouge. My wife’s is in Gonzales, about 15 minutes away, and then more of my family in New Orleans. It’s pretty close. … Pat can’t put all his eggs into one basket; he has to go where he feels comfortable. We’re not pushing him to this place or that place because we have family there.

“LSU has been his leader for a long time, and if he goes there, I’ll be happy for him. It’s a big-time program. This is all about him and he has to be selfish in this decision. He can’t do it for me or for mom or his family in Louisiana; he has to do it for himself.”

Posted by Culverhouse13
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:49 am to
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Peterson signs with UT in February. Then, a week later Rush Probst is hired in an off the field role on Pruitt's staff.

Thoughts?


If this loophole was possible/allowed, wouldn't it undermine that whole new rule?
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:50 am to
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ETA: I know Tennessee will have to stop recruiting Peterson if Probst is hired to an off the field role on Pruitt's staff, but what would happen in this scenario:

Peterson signs with UT in February. Then, a week later Rush Probst is hired in an off the field role on Pruitt's staff.

Thoughts?


A NCAA investigation.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:51 am to
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If this loophole was possible/allowed, wouldn't it undermind that whole new rule?


You would think, but what would the consequences be? The kid would already be signed. Secondary violation?
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:53 am to
Three-Point Stance: Rivals100 predictions, SEC superlatives

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Rivals.com National Recruiting Director Mike Farrell’s Three-Point Stance is here with early predictions on the rest of the uncommitted prospects in the Rivals100, a look at the SEC’s Early Signing Period and a new rule the NCAA needs to consider.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:02 am to
I'm wondering if pre-existing relationship matters in that scenario?

Pruitt can show the NCAA the "Two-A-Days" box set to prove it
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:02 am to
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You would think, but what would the consequences be? The kid would already be signed. Secondary violation?


NCAA Bylaw 11.4

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In football, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete's anticipated enrollment and a two-year period after the prospective student-athlete's actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position.

This definition includes, but is not limited to, parents, legal guardians, handlers, personal trainers and coaches. An individual who meets this definition retains such status during the enrollment of the prospective student-athlete at the institution.

Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:04 am to
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1. PREDICTING THE REST OF THE UNSIGNED RIVALS100

Earlier this week I predicted where the remaining uncommitted five-star prospects would end up. Now it's time to take a crack at the other uncommitted prospects in the Rivals100.

DT Rick Sandidge – South Carolina. It’s tough to bet against Georgia and some others but the Gamecocks have been linked for so long that I’ll go with that.

OL Penei Sewell – Oregon. USC is making a hard push and Alabama is always tempting but Oregon and Mario Cristobal have been there the longest. Watch out for Utah here as well.

OL Rasheed Walker – Penn State. I’m not sure what has taken so long and maybe there’s something I’m missing here, but I’m sticking with the Nittany Lions.

DB Kelvin Joseph – LSU. This should be one of those re-commitments I’m always talking about.

DE Tyreke Smith – Ohio State. Penn State made a nice run here and after Jackson Carman bolted the state you have to be a bit hesitant, but I’ll still stick with the Buckeyes.

DT Michael Thompson – Missouri. USC is in there with his friend Trevor Trout committed (but not signed) and Nebraska is making a run, but right now I think he stays home.

WR Ja’Marr Chase – TCU. Many may think LSU is the team to beat because it rarely loses out on home-state prospects, but his fit in the TCU offense will win out.

DE Tyler Friday – Michigan. This is a tough call because at one point it appeared a few schools backed off and he’d end up at in-state Rutgers, but the Jersey connection to Michigan is too hard to predict against.

ATH Talanoa Hufanga – USC. He lives near the Oregon campus but USC has been talked about often with Hufanga. He’s a quiet kid and hard to read but I think USC gets him.

LB JJ Peterson – Tennessee. Alabama was the leader but I think Jeremy Pruitt’s hire was just the thing for the Vols to win this battle.

QB Tanner McKee – BYU. He’s a devout Mormon and I think that will play a major factor. Stanford could be in the mix as well.

WR Warren Thompson – Florida State. Once Willie Taggart was hired this one didn’t become much of a mystery, at least to me.

OL William Barnes – Florida. He’s been linked to the Gators for long enough for me to think he ends up there in the end.

WR Jaylen Waddle – Texas A&M. Jimbo Fisher needs a big win and Waddle will be it.

DB Julius Irvin – Notre Dame. The new Florida offer is tempting but the academics and staff at Notre Dame are his preference.

DB Tyson Campbell – Miami. The ‘Canes are making a strong push and the season they had and geographical advantage will win out in the end.

WR Jalen Hall – Oregon. This is a tough call but the Ducks have been on him consistently and he fits their offense well in his mind.

LB Solomon Tuliaupupu – USC. This seems to be a near lock according to most.

DB Mario Goodrich – LSU. The former Nebraska commitment is now locked in on the SEC it seems and I’m going with LSU and the lure for defensive backs to play there.

OL Nick Petit-Frere – Florida. Notre Dame was linked for a time and the Gators have been part of his recruitment forever so I’ll guess that he stays close to home and plays for Dan Mullen.


Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:04 am to
Sounds like Surtain is a 1000% LOCK to LSU.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 9:05 am
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