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Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:22 am to
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Class of 2018 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: Emory Jones Wuz Here Edition
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There's some shady stuff going on at Trussville, there has to be


I feel like they hadn't been near this level of talent since the early 2000s.


It is basically the decline of a few of the east side of Bham schools where the talent level is ridiculous but you rarely hear about kids because of grades or shitty coaching. The exodus in the early to mid 2000s of the parents further east toward Trussville. The schools are a lot better and the coaching there and at Pinson Valley are worlds far and away better. I live in Eastlake and work in Roebuck so I see the parents who still work over on this side of town, they've just moved out of east Bham to give their kids a chance. JMHO
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:55 am to
Initial visitor list for tomorrow:

Commits:

Quay Walker, 4-star LB, Cordele (Ga.) Crisp County

Xavier Williams, 4-star WR, Hollywood (Fla.) Chaminade-Madonna

Jordan Davis, 4-star LB, Memphis (Tenn.) Southwind

Jalyn Armour-Davis, 4-star CB, Mobile (Ala.) St. Paul's Episcopal

Pierce Quick, 4-star OT, Hewitt-Trussville (Ala.)

Deyavie Hammond, 4-star OG, Lakeland (Fla.)

2018 Targets:

Justin Fields, 5-star QB, Kennesaw (Ga.) Harrison

Tanner McKee, 5-star QB, Corona (Calif.) Centennial

Jaycee Horn, 4-star CB, Alpharetta (Ga.)

Justyn Ross, 4-star WR, Phenix City (Ala.) Central

Luke Ford, 4-star TE, Cartersville (Ill.)

Nicholas Petit-Frere, 4-star OT, Tampa (Fla.) Berkely Prep

Sam Taimani, 4-star OG, Salt Lake City (Utah) East

Emil Ekiyor, 4-star OG, Indianapolis (Ind.) Cathedral -- Michigan commit

Asa Martin, 4-star RB, Decatur (Ala.) Austin

Tommy Brown, 4-star OT, Santa Ana (Calif.) Mater Dei

Jaylen Waddle, 4-star WR, Houston (Texas) Episcopal

Adam Anderson, 4-star LB, Rome (Ga.)

Joshua Moore, 4-star WR, Yoakum (Texas) -- Nebraska commit

Justin Watkins, 4-star WR, Clermont (Fla.) East Ridge

Cameron Latu, 4-star DE, Salt Lake City (Utah) Olympus

Kearis Jackson, 4-star WR, Fort Valley (Ga.) Peach County

Dominick Wood-Anderson, 3-star JUCO TE, Arizona Western College (Ariz.) -- official visit

Andres Fox, 3-star DE, Mobile (Ala.) Christian

Glenn Beal, 3-star TE, New Orleans (La.) John Curtis

Kwatrivous Johnson, 3-star OT, Greenwood (Miss.) -- Mississippi State commit

Vernon Jackson, 3-star ATH, Boling (Texas)

Jerome Carvin, 3-star OT, Memphis (Tenn.) Cordova

Jalen Cunningham, 3-star DT, Odenville (Ala.) Saint Clair County

Ken Montgomery Jr., 3-star CB, Tampa (Fla.) Hillsborough

Jerome Ford, 3-star APB, Seffner (Fla.) Armwood

2019 Targets:

Clay Webb, 4-star OG, Oxford (Ala.)

King Mwikuta, 4-star LB, Lagrange (Ga.) Troup County

Jaylen McCollough, 4-star S, Powder Springs (Ga.) Hillgrove

Darnell Wright, 4-star OT, Huntington (W.V.)

Tyrion Davis, 4-star RB, Baton Rouge (La.) Southern Lab -- LSU commit

2020 Target:

Tate Ratledge, 2020 OT, Rome (Ga.) Darlington School
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:02 am to
Tim Watts is now saying that Justin Fields will not visit Alabama for the cookout. He is supposedly going to Florida and Florida State instead.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:04 am to
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Since the last projection of Auburn’s 2018 recruiting class, a few variables have changed.

For starters, Shedrick Jackson and Quindarious Monday committed to Auburn (as accurately pegged in the projection), so you’ll notice asterisks next to their names to designate commits. Conversely, running back Tae Provens surprised with a commitment to LSU after Auburn’s communication died following a near commitment at Big Cat Weekend.

Auburn is up to No. 43 in the 247 composite team rankings, but the Tigers only have eight commits.

Below you’ll see my most recent projection. There are 24 commits in this version, which totals 271.25 composite points. That number would’ve been good for the No. 9 class in 2013, No. 9 in 2014, No. 11 in 2015, No. 11 in 2016 and No. 8 in 2017.


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Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:09 am to
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Quarterbacks (2)

- 5-star Justin Fields, Harrison (Ga.): According to my sources, there is roughly a month until Fields closes in on his final college decision. Since his de-commitment from Penn State, he’s taken two known visits to two places — Auburn and Georgia. He will take his second to Alabama on Friday. Florida State and Florida are also in the mix, as is USC. However, when it comes to a decision, I expect Fields to fall back on his childhood favorite and follow in the footsteps of his mentor Cam Newton.

- 4-star commit Joey Gatewood*, Bartram Trail (Fla.): Regardless of Fields’ decision, Gatewood stays in this recruiting class. I’ll go one step further with my Gatewood projection: He’ll make plenty of noise in his own right as an Auburn quarterback during his Tigers tenure. Gatewood visited from Sunday to Monday and said he can’t wait to enroll early at Auburn.



Please God no.
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Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:10 am to
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Running backs (3)

- 4-star Dameon Pierce, Bainbridge (Ga.): Pierce is likely a National Signing Day decision, so some of his choice will come down to who is in the market for a running back at the end of the cycle. There is a chance that ends up being Auburn, especially if the Tigers take two multi-purpose guys like Harold Joiner and Shaun Shivers first.

- 4-star Harold Joiner, Mountain Brook (Ala.): Joiner remains a bit of a mystery, but he confirmed with SEC Country he plans to be at Auburn’s cookout Saturday. If the Tigers make a push, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Joiner commit to Auburn before his senior season starts. It would be a big-time get for Auburn. Joiner’s versatility will be a playmaking asset for anyone who gets him.

- 3-star Shaun Shivers*, Chaminade-Madonna (Fla.): Shivers returns for the cookout Saturday, and there’s no doubt he’ll be one of the lead recruiters. He’s been active in contacting other recruits throughout this cycle. Shivers is all Auburn.



Looks like everyone is predicting Joiner to end up in Auburn now.
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Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:11 am to
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Wide receivers (4)

- 4-star Justyn Ross, Central (Ala.): The top offensive player in Alabama is the top want for his entire top 5 of Auburn, Alabama, Clemson, Florida State and Florida. Ross has visited Auburn more than any school, and when it comes down to it, that’s what I expect to be the difference-maker, especially if the Tigers have a successful passing game in 2017.

- 4-star Matthew Hill, Brookwood (Ga.): It’s somewhat surprising Hill hasn’t pulled the trigger yet, but it wouldn’t be surprising to see him commit at the cookout on Saturday. He’s seems like an Auburn lean for a long time, and that hasn’t changed despite his patience.

- 4-star Seth Williams, Paul W. Bryant (Ala.): Williams has kept a low profile over the last few months, but he will be at Auburn’s cookout Saturday. To my knowledge, he won’t be going to Alabama the day before. At last check, Williams said Auburn was recruiting him the hardest. He’s another decision that’s probably a long way off, but the visit this weekend raises some interest.

- 3-star Shedrick Jackson*, Hoover (Ala.): Jackson committed shortly after Auburn’s last recruiting event (Big Cat Weekend) and will return for the cookout Saturday in more of a recruiter’s role. He’s ready to carry on the family tradition, yet create his own name.



He thinks Auburn is going to land the Top 2 WRs in the state and we are going to be empty handed?

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Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:12 am to
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Defensive line (4)

- 4-star Coynis Miller, Jackson Olin (Ala.): Miller has one visit in between his final decision. The defensive tackle will travel to Gainesville, Fla., this weekend to visit the Gators instead of going to either Alabama or Auburn. I think Miller’s mind is made up. He wants to be a Tiger.


- 4-star Richard Jibunor, Athens Christian (Ga.): Jibunor could be another end-of-summer decision, especially if he surprises with a visit Saturday. Auburn and Tennessee have been the most consistent schools from start to finish, and ultimately his relationships with Travis Williams, Rodney Garner and Prince Tega Wanogho will help aid his Auburn pick.

- 4-star Daquan Newkirk*, Mississippi Gulf Coast: The most intriguing thing to follow with Newkirk is his role on the JUCO fields this fall. It’s been two years since anyone — Auburn coaches included — have been able to witness Newkirk’s ability on the gridiron. Assuming he returns to form, Auburn will be getting an immediate impact player.

- 3-star Andres Fox, Mobile Christian (Ala.): My certainty with my Fox-to-Auburn predictions has diminished some, but I expect to see Fox in the Tigers’ class in the end. He’ll visit Alabama this weekend rather than Auburn, so that’s something to track. But when decision time comes, prospects tend to revert back to their initial feelings. For Fox, that means Auburn.

Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:15 am to
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It is basically the decline of a few of the east side of Bham schools where the talent level is ridiculous but you rarely hear about kids because of grades or shitty coaching. The exodus in the early to mid 2000s of the parents further east toward Trussville. The schools are a lot better and the coaching there and at Pinson Valley are worlds far and away better. I live in Eastlake and work in Roebuck so I see the parents who still work over on this side of town, they've just moved out of east Bham to give their kids a chance. JMHO

I agree with some of this, but they have gotten transfers from all over Jefferson County. This coach that took over for Riddle knows how to manipulate the system. Riddle sucked. He's a good man, but not a good coach.
Posted by bamasgot13
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:44 am to
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5-star Justin Fields, Harrison

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I expect Fields to fall back on his childhood favorite and follow in the footsteps of his mentor Cam Newton.

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Please God no


meh. I'm really not overly concerned about a HS QB going to play for Gus until he shows he can actually develop a QB. I'm more concerned about Stidham for 1 or 2 years than I am about Fields for 3-4.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:01 am to
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He thinks Auburn is going to land the Top 2 WRs in the state and we are going to be empty handed?



All those WRs they develop is the draw. Don't you know.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:30 am to
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Welcome to SEC Country’s daily Auburn football recruiting notebook with Auburn recruiting beat writer Benjamin Wolk. In this edition, we explain why some of Auburn’s top prospects didn’t crack the class projection. Also, we look at a few Thursday visitors.


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Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:31 am to
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Why certain Auburn targets missed the projection

I released the July version of my Class of 2018 projection Wednesday afternoon.

There weren’t many surprises and alterations from the June edition. But there were a few prospects who made me think. I expect July and August to be big recruiting months for the Tigers. When the summer ends, it’s a possibility to see Auburn with more than 15 commits on its list.

However, when going through the projection, there were a few targets who didn’t make the list despite serious consideration.

Here are the seven most likely to commit to Auburn despite not cracking my projection. Check out the latest on each of those prospects.

- 4-star DL Caleb Tannor, Miller Grove (Ga.): Tannor’s decision will come in the next two weeks. The defensive end from Georgia has cut it to two — Georgia and Auburn. Georgia is the perceived favorite, which is why other defensive linemen made my list over Tannor. But he’ll be at Auburn’s cookout Saturday, and it could be a final opportunity for the Tigers to convince Tannor to join the fold.

- 4-star RB Asa Martin, Austin (Ala.): With Alabama and Florida battling, it’s going to be a challenge for Martin to land in the Auburn class. It’s not out of the question, by any means, but Martin’s strongest relationship is with Florida’s running backs coach. It’s rare to see the No. 1 running back in Alabama choose a school other than Alabama. Plus, Clemson could join the mix. Martin’s last visit to Auburn will likely be Saturday for the cookout, so the Tigers need a home-run visit.

- 4-star OL Trey Hill, Houston County (Ga.): Hill keeps visiting Auburn. It took him four or five visits before receiving an offer, but that didn’t scare the big offensive lineman away. Everyone keeps saying he’s a sure thing for Georgia, and Hill continues to deny it’s so certain. Florida State is a player in this one, too. So despite his constant visits to Auburn, there wasn’t enough evidence to put him in the projection — yet. That could change after this week with a good visit.

- 4-star WR Kearis Jackson, Peach County (Ga.): Jackson will make his final decision Aug. 19, and for the time being, I’d be shocked if he picked anyone other than Georgia. If there were an option other than Georgia, it’d likely be Auburn. Still, the fact Jackson opted not to visit Auburn with Justin Fields is a telling sign of where his heart is, which made it impossible to place the Georgia wide receiver in the Auburn projection.

- 4-star LB JJ Peterson, Colquitt County (Ga.): Peterson has the persona of an Alabama linebacker, and he’s also called the Crimson Tide his leader during every interview he’s done. That makes it impossible, at this point, to put the Georgia linebacker in the Auburn class projection.

- 4-star CB Christian Tutt, Thomson (Ga.): Tutt’s recruitment has been a whirlwind, so it’s impossible at this time — by my estimation — to put him in a class projection for any school. But he’s returning to the Plains for the second time in two months for the cookout. Especially with Auburn’s uncertainty at cornerback, Tutt has a high possibility of cracking the projection at some point.

- 3-star safety Joe Foucha, McDonogh 35 (La.): Foucha is the one person on this list who I think wants to be in Auburn’s class, but it might not happen. The Tigers have been more successful at safety than they once projected. They like Kolbi Fuqua and Quindarious Monday. They’re in great shape for Jamien Sherwood. Don’t rule out Foucha in the class with a miss or a de-commitment, but the space appears limited at this time.

Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:32 am to
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Big day for visits Thursday

Saturday won’t be the only big recruiting day on the Plains.

Auburn will host two dozen prospects for its weekend cookout. But before that, the Tigers have an important day of recruiting on Thursday as a couple top prospects are in town for visits.

Four-star offensive lineman Trey Hill is back on the Plains. He was at Auburn for Big Cat Weekend with his father, and he’s back Thursday for another visit. Hill is much more within Auburn’s reach than previously believed. The more he visits, the more likely it is for the Tigers to nab him.

Four-star linebacker JJ Peterson is similar to Hill in the sense he’s been viewed as a lean to another school, yet Auburn remains in the conversation. Peterson returns for another visit Thursday, though he’ll head to Alabama — his public leader — for the Crimson Tide cookout on Friday.

Four-star 2019 wide receiver Mark Richards hasn’t been talked about much (partially because there is so much left in the 2018 cycle). But this is a huge 2019 visit for the Tigers. Richards is a 6-foot-1, 185-pound athlete from West Palm Beach, Fla., that Auburn will try to woo with his first visit to the Plains on Thursday.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:46 am to
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Tennessee vs. Alabama

The two teams battle it out every third Saturday in October and will take that rivalry to the recruiting trail for offensive lineman Jerome Carvin.

Carvin, a native of Memphis, Tenn., rates as a 3-star tackle and the No. 10 best prospect in the state, according to 247Sports.

Carvin released his final 10 schools in June, but Tennessee and Alabama seemed to be the clear favorites.

Tennessee’s coaching staff has built the best relationship with Carvin throughout his recruitment.

“My relationship with the coaches is great,” Carvin said. “I’m close with Coach Jones and [offensive line] Coach [Walt] Wells. I know their commits really well. Cade Mays and Adrian Martinez are really on me hard.”

While Tennessee’s coaches might have the upper hand, Carvin’s “blood brother” Jordan Davis has committed to Alabama.

Davis pushes the message to Carvin every day about joining him with the Crimson Tide.

Tennessee coach Butch Jones communicates with Carvin constantly. Carvin even knew when Jones took a week off for vacation this summer.

Carvin has heard some hot seat talk about Jones, but he doesn’t give much credence to the offseason chatter.

“I have definitely thought about it a few times, but I think Coach Jones is going to be there for a long time,” Carvin said. “I think Tennessee is going to have a great year this year. I’m not really worried about them.”

Carvin will visit make his sixth trip to the Alabama campus this weekend. He and Davis will spend the entire weekend in Tuscaloosa.

The idea of committing has crossed Carvin’s mind.

“If everything goes well, it’s possible, but I’m not sure right now,” Carvin said. “I’m not planning on committing this weekend, but we’ll see.”

Carvin is Tennessee’s No. 1 offensive line target so expect the Vols to continue a heavy pursuit until his commitment.


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No offense to Jerome, but I really hope we don't have to take his commitment.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:49 am to
Dominick Wood-Anderson loves him some visits.

He just visited Louisville and gave them a glowing review.

Both of the Louisville mods just CB'd him to Louisville.

This is the fourth time I can remember him visiting somewhere and CBs starting to flow. First it was us, then Oregon, then Texas and now Louisville.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:50 am to
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Welcome to SEC Country’s daily Roll Tide-ings, a rundown of everything happening in Alabama Crimson Tide recruiting with Chris Kirschner. Today, we talk the latest with the nation’s No. 1 overall player and an Ohio State quarterback commit.


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Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:51 am to
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Justin Fields not expected to visit Tuscaloosa

Justin Fields, the Class of 2018’s No. 1 overall player according to the 247Sports rankings, was expected to visit Tuscaloosa for the second time this summer for Alabama’s Champions Cookout event on Friday.

Turns out he won’t be there, after all.

“We’re not going to make it,” Ivant Fields, Justin’s father, told SEC Country.

In mid-June, Fields told SEC Country that Alabama wasn’t one of the main teams he was considering because of the lack of a relationship he had with the coaching staff. Things started to progress toward the end of the month after the Fields family made their first visit to Alabama.

“I just love the way [offensive coordinator] Coach (Brian) Daboll coaches,” Fields told SEC Country at Nike’s The Opening Finals earlier this summer. “Of course, they are going to contend for national championships every year. They also have most of the best players in college football. Just getting to practice with those guys every day is going to get you better.”

I still think Fields ending up in Alabama’s class is a long shot; however, it’s clear that loaded depth charts are not an issue to him because he’s strongly considering Georgia. The Bulldogs have sophomore Jacob Eason and 4-star Class of 2017 prospect Jake Fromm on their depth chart.

Fields’ father said a commitment from his son likely won’t happen until the college football season begins because they want to see how some of the games shake out and how some offenses look.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:52 am to
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What’s the deal with Ohio State QB commit Emory Jones?

Emory Jones, a 4-star quarterback from Heard County High School (Franklin, Ga.) took a secret visit to Alabama earlier this week, making it at least the second time he’s been in Tuscaloosa in 2017.

Secret visits from recruits committed elsewhere are always interesting because, well, there’s a reason why you’re hiding the fact that you’re on someone else’s campus. What makes Jones’ visit even more interesting is that he may not have been truthful with Ohio State, the school he’s committed to, about his visit plans.

Still, Jeremy Birmingham, who covers Ohio State recruiting for our sister site Land of 10, said there’s no reason to believe that Jones is seriously considering a flip at this time.

“If the question is if there’s a concern with a possible flip [on Ohio State’s side of things], then the answer is not really,” Birmingham said. “But if there’s a question whether or not [Ohio State is] concerned about visits made that they’re not being told about or being misled, then most certainly.”

If the Buckeyes aren’t concerned with the possibility of losing their anchor then why would Jones make a secret visit to Tuscaloosa and not just be upfront with the team he’s considering?

“I think it’s a matter of a kid who wants to experience some of the things that the recruiting process has to offer,” Birmingham said. “I don’t think he’s genuinely interested in attending another school, though. There are certainly programs out there, Alabama being one of them, that Ohio State isn’t going to be thrilled about him visiting.”

There is reason for optimism in Columbus. Jones will make his third visit to Ohio State since April when he travels there for the Buckeyes’ Friday Night Lights camp this week. That’s a lot of visits for a kid from Georgia. He’ll stay in Ohio until Sunday. This trip will likely squash any doubts Jones may have.

“The Buckeyes clearly want Emory Jones as their quarterback,” Birmingham said. “They’re not recruiting any other quarterbacks and haven’t offered anyone else. They don’t intend to do so, either.”

After Jones visited Tuscaloosa earlier this week, there was some confidence from people inside Alabama’s program that a flip could happen. But, with him making the trip to Ohio State this weekend, the momentum Alabama thought it had will likely be stymied by Sunday night.

We are talking about a kid who is committed to Urban Meyer. You better believe Meyer is going to make sure his star quarterback doesn’t flip to Alabama.
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