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re: Class of 2017 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: Say Your Goodbyes Edition

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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:32 am to
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:49 am to
New 2018 OT offer:

Christian Armstrong Highlights
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:51 am to
We also offered a DE out of Georgia yesterday:

B.J. Sharpe Highlights
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:53 am to
These are all the kids who visited for yesterday's practice:

- Dylan Moses, 5-star OLB, Bradenton (Fla.) IMG Academy

- Ryan Johnson, 4-star DE, Mobile (Ala.) St. Paul's Episcopal

- Allan Walters, 2018 4-star QB, Paramus (N.J.) Catholic

- B.J. Sharp, 3-star DE, Macon (Ga.) Southwest

- Elijah Walker, 2017 QB, Amite (La.)

- Stacy Ivey, 2017 DE, Macon (Ga.) Southwest

- Christian Armstrong, 2018 OT, Warner Robins (Ga.)

- Cameron Henderson, 2019 APB, Amite (La.)

- Devonta Lee, 2019 WR, Amite (La.)

- Amani Gilmore, 2019 QB, Hammond (La.)
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:56 am to
Free Bleacher Report Content

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Have you purchased your tickets to ride college football's hype train yet? Don't worry, there are still a few more months left to hop on board, and there's always plenty of seating.

The long offseason lends itself to anticipation, hope and wonder, and more often than not this translates into boosting the profile of various college football players, coaches and teams. Either because of how they played the year before—particularly at the end of the season, with an extra emphasis on bowl games—or how they're expected to fare this coming fall, certain entities get hyped way more than others.

And there's really nothing we can do about it other than to ignore the noise or embrace it.

We've selected the most overhyped of the hyped in college football, a list of players, coaches and teams you'll end up hearing the most about this offseason. Some of them will be deserving of all the attention, others maybe not so much. Either way, they're going to be facing incredibly lofty expectations when the 2016 season begins.


It's a slow week so I'm going to post the players, teams and coaches that we either play next season or are on our team.
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:57 am to
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Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee

Did you know Joshua Dobbs is working toward a degree in aerospace engineering? Or that Tennessee coach Butch Jones refers to him as the “CEO” of the team, per Bleacher Report's Barrett Sallee? If not, you've somehow avoided one of the most well-chronicled college quarterbacks in recent memory.

Dobbs is entering his senior year as the Volunteers' full-time starter for the second straight season, but in 2012 and 2013 he also garnered attention for his play after being inserted into the lineup midway through each year. His numbers—and Tennessee's win total—have gone up each year, though it feels like Dobbs should have accomplished more by this point.

"I hold myself to a high standard in how I play with my execution," Dobbs told Sallee.

Tennessee fans do too, which is why after another strong finish to a season they're expecting Dobbs to lead the Vols to the SEC title game for the first time since 2007.

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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:58 am to
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Myles Garrett, Texas A&M

Myles Garrett broke Jadeveon Clowney's SEC record for sacks by a freshman then last year improved on those numbers and cemented himself as one of the top edge-rushers in college football. Texas A&M's defense showed significant improvement in 2015, and Garrett is due some credit for that, but more of the accolades go to coordinator John Chavis.

The pairing of Chavis and Garrett is one that drew much praise last offseason, and it's the same this spring. And with Garrett projected as one of the top picks in the 2017 draft—WalterFootball.com has him going second overall—he should be primed for a massive year this fall.

Or the 6'5”, 262-pound defensive end could end up doing what a lot of top pro prospects do in that junior season: play it safe and avoid injury, knowing what's at stake. We won't know if that's the case until the games get played, but that shouldn't change the level of hype he gets or how much that correlates to the expectations for A&M's defense in 2016.

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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:59 am to
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L5U Tigers

The term "blue bloods" is more associated with college basketball teams than college football ones, though it has the same meaning: a program whose history of success makes it a regular contender on an annual basis regardless of recent performance.

Which explains why LSU seems to always open high in the preseason rankings, even after coming up short the year before.

The Tigers finished the 2015 season ranked 16th in the final Associated Press poll, though they were as high as second in the playoff standings thanks to a 7-0 start. They also almost lost their coach, Les Miles, because his team wasn't going to win the SEC West and had fallen out of the playoff picture thanks to three straight losses.

And yet here we are again, with LSU again likely to be high in the early rankings (ESPN has it sixth overall) despite having very much the same team as a year ago.


At least someone sees it.
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:59 am to
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OJ Howard, Alabama

If you thought O.J. Howard was among the most overhyped players in college football history before, just wait until this coming season. Now he's actually got some results to warrant this attention, having been the unsung hero of the national championship game with an amazing individual performance.

The 6'6”, 242-pound tight end, who hadn't caught a touchdown pass since November 2013, had two TDs as part of a five-catch, 208-yard effort in Alabama's 40-35 win over Clemson. It was almost as if Clemson wasn't aware Howard was on the roster, which made sense since he'd caught only 66 passes in his previous 41 games.

Howard's monster game could have been the perfect springboard to jump to the NFL, where his size would make him a coveted prospect. Instead, he's come back for his senior year, which gives us all another opportunity to rave at his measureables and wonder if this will be the season in which he's a regular part of the Crimson Tide offense.

"Howard will put together that final piece of the puzzle in 2016, become a focal point of the new-look Crimson Tide offense and be the best tight end in the country as a senior," Bleacher Report's Barrett Sallee wrote.

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Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:00 am to
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Lane Kiffin, Alabama

There's no denying what offensive coordinator Lane Kiffin was able to do with Alabama's quarterbacks the last two years, and it's why another uncertain situation at that position isn't dampening the Crimson Tide's odds to repeat as national champions. Able to focus solely on his work as an offensive coordinator, Kiffin has resurrected his career after getting left off by the bus by USC in 2013, midway through his second year as head coach.

Kiffin might be the best quarterback guru in college football, but that doesn't mean he'll do any better as a head coach if given another chance. Don't tell that to the hype machine, however, since it's fueled by stories of whether Kiffin should get to run another program and how things would go next time around.

A slew of FBS jobs were open this winter, yet Kiffin's name wasn't mentioned for most as a serious contender. Instead, he was reportedly offered UCLA's offensive coordinator spot as well as contacted by the San Francisco 49ers about their OC position. Is that because he's not really considered head coach material, or because he's happy with what he's doing?

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Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:00 am to
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Gus Malzahn, Auburn

Is it possible to be overhyped and on the hot seat? Head coach Gus Malzahn could be the test subject for this debate, since his reputation for being an offensive genius is getting countered by a major drop-off in results since his first season with Auburn.

Malzahn's spread attack was unstoppable in 2013, helping the Tigers make the BCS title game after going 3-9 the year before. He started 12-1 but since has gone 15-12, winning only two of eight SEC games last season, and Auburn dipped to 94th in total offense in 2015.

Surely the Tigers will get it turned around this year, since Malzahn appears to be turning back to what worked for him at the beginning of his Auburn tenure, right? He's devoted to going back to a run-first offense and might again be turning to a junior college transfer (John Franklin III) at quarterback like he did with Nick Marshall three years ago.

It worked before, so certainly it will produce the same results. So says the hype, at least.

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Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:01 am to
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Les Miles, LSU

We love Les Miles for his quirks, which include a certain way with the English language as well as his love for eating grass and pulling out trick plays. And for this, we tend to give the LSU coach the benefit of the doubt each year when it comes to assessing its chances. Even when the previous year didn't go as expected, Miles seems to always enter the following season at the helm of a team with high hopes.

And that's in spite of the last few teams being made up exactly the same on offense, with too much reliance on the run game and not enough of a contribution from the passing attack.

Miles won 34 games in his first three years at LSU, leading the Tigers to the 2007 national title, then slipped back in 2008-09 before another title game appearance in 2011. Because he's bounced back in the past, the expectation is it will happen again. He might be running out of leash, as evidenced by his near-firing in November, yet most super-early rankings have LSU near the top once again in 2016.

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Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:04 am to
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Tennessee Volunteers

Stop us if you've heard this one before.

After a disappointing first half of the 2015 season, Tennessee came alive down the stretch by winning its final six games. That included a blowout victory over a Big Ten school (Northwestern) in a Florida-based bowl game (Outback Bowl), sending the Volunteers into the offseason brimming with confidence.

It's much the same way 2014 ended, with Tennessee winning four of five, including a game against Iowa in the TaxSlayer Bowl, and instantly becoming the hottest 7-6 team in the country. A program that hadn't had a winning record in five years was suddenly getting included in the playoff discussion, with nothing less than an SEC East championship expected.

Having failed to live up to the hype they generated last offseason, the Vols will want to push aside the attention this spring and summer. But they can't prevent what others think, such as being highly ranked in various way-too-early Top 25 polls such as the one from Colin Becht of Sports Illustrated in which Tennessee earned the No. 8 spot thanks to "a more experienced team and proven playmakers all over the field."

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Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:05 am to
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USC Trojans

Clay Helton is technically both the third and fifth coach USC has had since the ultra-successful Pete Carroll era ended in 2009. He was interim coach for the 2013 Las Vegas Bowl the year Lane Kiffin was fired (and after previous interim coach Ed Orgeron left) and then got the full-time gig late last year after a strong performance in an interim role after Steve Sarkisian's termination.

Such coaching turmoil is just part of the soap opera-like aura that surrounds USC, and with that comes a level of attention that is normally reserved for a team that should be in the mix for a title. And the Trojans could be there this season, much as they've been almost every year since Carroll went to the NFL, if they could just get out of their own way and stick to football.

In a city that—until this fall—hasn't had pro football since the mid-1990s, there's a desperate need to have a championship-level team. UCLA and USC have both seemed capable of this lately, but USC will always be the first choice of the community.

Posted by Bama3714
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:13 am to
The problem with OJH in 2016 is how many WR weapons we have. And then Bo is extremely good at catching the ball out of the backfield (and probably split wide some).

Quite simply, somebody won't be catching 40+ receptions. Between Ridley, Stewart, Foster, Dieter, OJH and Bo, all of them aren't going to have 50+ receptions. The math just doesn't support it with our system and with Saban taking his foot off the gas in the 3rd quarter when we're wearing teams out. Great problem to have - and we should be absolutely lethal - but they aren't all going to pile up huge stats.
Posted by Rizzy
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:42 am to
Mobile DE Ryan Johnson appears to now be trending to Bama:
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Johnson, a 6-foot-3, 253-pound DE, has long been trending to Auburn at 100 percent on the 247Sports Crystal Ball, but at the moment, Alabama appears to be the new team trending, with sources near the Mobile product believing the Tide is now the team to beat.

On top of the momentum seemingly turning to UA’s favor, a decision could be coming sooner rather than later.
Posted by Tide or Die87
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:08 pm to
Ryan Johnson is underrated...his film is incredible
Posted by Bama3714
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:39 pm to
According to redfish, Pruitt loves him. Also, according to SP on TI (who would certainly know) we picked up a top 100 commitment in the last few days. I have aabsolutely no idea who it is.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:23 pm to
LaBryan Ray maybe?
Posted by Bama3714
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:45 pm to
Man, I hope so. But I've heard nothing about him about to commit or anything.
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