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re: Alabama Hires Patriots' TE Brian Daboll as Offensive Coordinator
Posted on 2/12/17 at 8:10 pm to alabamabuckeye
Posted on 2/12/17 at 8:10 pm to alabamabuckeye
What update? 
Posted on 2/12/17 at 9:22 pm to TideSaint
Norm Chow...there's an interesting name. He could coordinate and coach QBs like nobody's business but he sucked as a head coach. He's also an Air RAID proponent so he probably isn't on the list.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:00 pm to TideSaint
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Travis Reier
4 hours ago
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Here's what we've gathered as of this afternoon:
** George Godsey and Brian Daboll are the two names we're hearing the most in connection with the OC job. That said, we haven't completely ruled out additional candidates, including Mike Locksley. It's important to keep previous offensive staff hires in mind when looking at the situation. While some of the moves on defense have been fairly predictable, there have been times (Jim McElwain) when Saban zigged when most expected him to zag.
We reported on Wednesday that Godsey interviewed for the spot. His connections with the staff via offensive line coach Brent Key and Ed Marynowitz, Alabama's associate director of athletics for football, make him a sensible option. As for Daboll, he has ties to not only Saban but, really, the entire Bill Belichick coaching tree, having worked for Saban (Michigan State), Eric Mangini (Jets and Browns) and Belichick (Patriots).
As for when a decision will be made, well, that'll happen whenever Saban is ready. Could be tonight, could be Wednesday. Those close to the situation have advised patience based on Saban doing his diligence before coming to a final decision.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:06 pm to Triple Daves
I'll be 100% honest: I don't fvckin get it.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:19 pm to Cobrasize
3 guys with almost literally zero concrete success as offensive coordinators. Those are the reported candidates. At Alabama. In 2017.
I'm sure we'll all just dumb peasants missing Lord Saban's underlying scheme here........or something.
I'm sure we'll all just dumb peasants missing Lord Saban's underlying scheme here........or something.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:28 pm to Triple Daves
I'm getting prepared for a major disappointment
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:34 pm to Triple Daves
This bullshite sounds like my brother-in-law's nephew was Belichik's water boy when Saban was on the staff so HE is a candidate for OC.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:34 pm to Cobrasize
Still holding out hope for Sterlin Gilbert.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:42 pm to TideSaint
I'm holding out hope, but it's fading fast 
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:45 pm to Cobrasize
Hell, Rhett Lashlee is beginning to sound like a better choice. We'll whirley bird the hell out of folks
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 2/13/17 at 5:21 am to TideSaint
But Kiffin is gone, so all those that were tired of him should be happy.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 5:29 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:45 am to Triple Daves
Miami Dolphins: Step back from the ledge and give new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll a chance
Miami Dolphins News | Jan 18, 2011
Miami Dolphins News | Jan 18, 2011
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I can't recall ever seeing such a negative overreaction before to anything like I am currently witnessing. Miami Dolphins fans are up in arms over the news that the Dolphins will hire former Browns offensive coordinator Brian Daboll as their new offensive coordinator - replacing the much maligned Dan Henning.
Fans on this site and other Dolphins blogs and message boards are acting as if this move is the end of the world. Worse yet, it's not just the fans overreacting - it's the other people who run these Miami Dolphin sites. I'm talking about people I very much respect for their knowledge of this team and this sport whining over Daboll's hiring like a bunch of babies.
Here's my message to all of you overreacting to the news that Daboll will become the team's offensive coordinator (once the contract is finalized, of course): either grow the hell up and give the man a chance or go find a new team to root for. Period.
I'm well aware of what the stats say. I know Cleveland's offense under Brian Daboll wasn't very good - ranking 29th in the league in yards per game. I'm aware that the Browns were one of only two teams to score fewer points than the Dolphins last year. But doesn't anyone realize that Cleveland actually has less talent than the Dolphins do offensively?
I'm actually slightly impressed by the fact that Daboll's offense in Cleveland last season averaged 5 yards per play - the same as the Dolphins. In fact, the Browns only scored two points fewer than the Dolphins last year over the entire season (273 to 271) and actually scored more offensive touchdowns (26 to 25) than Miami. And this is despite the fact that the team used three different quarterbacks, including a rookie for most of the season, and didn't have a receiver top 500 yards receiving.
Trivia question: can anybody name Cleveland's top wide receiver?
I know people probably don't want to hear endorsements of Daboll from guys like Brady Quinn or Chad Pennington - though Pennington's thoughts should carry some weight all things considered. But here's what I do know - people around the league consider Daboll an up and coming offensive mind and believe his greatest strength is developing a quarterback. And you have to be a bright guy to advance up the Bill Belichick coaching tree as quickly as Daboll has.
The biggest misconception many seem to have is that hiring Brian Daboll means more of the same offensively. They look at just his raw numbers and don't see how he could possibly offer anything different to this team. But that's just it - Daboll does bring a new offensive philosophy to the table.
On NFL Network yesterday, Michael Lombardi said that Daboll actually wants to use elements of the spread offense in Miami - which makes a lot sense. The man spent years in New England as the receivers coach along side guys like Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels. In Cleveland, though, that kind of offense really wasn't possible because of the personnel he had to deal with.
But here's your proof that this Dolphins offense is going to look different in 2011 under Brian Daboll than it has the past three years with Dan Henning running the unit. Last season, the Dolphins used four wide receivers on only 20% of their quarterbacks' drop-backs. The Browns, meanwhile, used four receiver sets on 41% of their quarterbacks' drop-backs.
This is despite having receivers like Chansi Stuckey, Mohamed Massaquoi, and Brian Robiskie to work with. Just imagine what those spread formations Daboll wants to run could look like with the addition of a speed receiver to go with Brandon Marshall, Davone Bess, and Brian Hartline.
Fans clamored all season that Henning was too conservative. They complained about hardly ever going with four receivers and spreading the field. Well all of you are now getting exactly what you want - a guy running the offense who used four receiver sets on over 40% of their passing plays. This is a good thing, people. A good thing.
Of course, we do now have to consider the possible addition of a quarterback or two who have experience playing in a spread-like offense - from a veteran guy like Kyle Orton to potential draft picks like Blaine Gabbert.
If anything, Dolphins fans should actually be slightly excited over this hiring. Bringing aboard somebody who is fascinating by the basic principles of the spread offense and who wants to incorporate some of these things into Miami's offense should actually give us all hope that things are changing for the better down in South Florida.
I'm on board with this hiring. I think it has a chance to dynamically change Miami's offense. The next step, of course, is finding the right personnel to fill in the missing pieces. For now, though, this hiring has done to me what it should be doing to all of you: it's reinvigorated me for some Dolphins football.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 6:48 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:05 am to TidalSurge1
LINK ]Brian Daboll wants to install attacking, up-tempo offense in KC (02-07-2012)
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New Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll wants to install an offense that will attack the opposition. He wants to go up-tempo, flood defenses with multiple personnel packages and keep defenders off-balance.
Daboll and his ties to the New England Patriots look familiar at the surface, but he's bringing a change in offensive approach with him to Kansas City.
"When you're an offensive football coach, you want to try to really set precedent on defense and attack the defense," said Daboll, who broke into the NFL as a defensive assistant under Romeo Crennel with the Patriots in 2000. "I think it's important to be balanced to help the quarterback out in the run and the pass, utilize different personnel groups, different formations.
"Sometimes we'll move and shift, sometimes we'll be stationary. I think you need to have ability to get to an up-tempo scheme where you're in a no-huddle package, threatening runs, passes, all those types of different things. You have to try to keep a defense as off-balance as you can."
Quarterback Matt Cassel? has often looked his best when operating out of a no-huddle offense, but the Chiefs have been reluctant to use the scheme outside of its traditional two-minute setting. Former head coach Todd Haley often hinted that the hurry-up mode didn't fit Cassel's strengths when utilized on a consistent basis.
"Red Ball," as the Chiefs liked to call their no-huddle package last season, didn't fully hatch until Tyler Palko? took over as the team's starting quarterback.
At that point, the Chiefs had no other choice. With Palko struggling to find consistency, the Chiefs were looking for ways to jumpstart a lethargic offense.
"I think that one of the most important things that you can do as a coach is to really try to put your players in positions where they do things very, very well," Daboll said. "I'm not one to just have one play and this is how we're going to run it. Sometimes that doesn't fit with the players that you have.
"We're going to wait and kind of evaluate and do a really thorough job of watching these guys and being in OTAs and being in the mini-camps and put together the best thing that we can put together collectively."
Daboll will make his own conclusion this spring regarding Cassel's ability to operate in an up-tempo attack. The two know each other from Daboll's time serving as a wide receivers coach during Cassel's first two seasons in New England.
"I have a lot of confidence in Matt," Daboll said. "I've watched him on tape, I know the player and I've also been on different teams that have played against him and heard some of the things that the defensive coordinators have said about him."
The offseason will provide an opportunity for Daboll to tinker with the Chiefs offensive personnel.
Season-ending injuries to Jamaal Charles? and Tony Moeaki? limited the personnel packages available to former offensive coordinator Bill Muir last season, but Daboll should be operating with a full cupboard at the skill positions.
Daboll did an admirable job with Miami's skill players last season, rejuvenating the career of RB Reggie Bush and guiding QB Matt Moore to his best year as a pro. Big-play WR Brandon Marshall also posted his fifth-straight 1,000-yard campaign.
The most successful pieces of the Dolphins offense resemble the personnel Daboll inherits with the Chiefs.
"I think at the skill spots, we have some young, dynamic players with [Dexter] McCluster and [Jamaal] Charles and [Dwayne] Bowe is an [unrestricted free agent], but he's a heck of a receiver," Daboll said. "Then there's the [Jonathan] Baldwin kid from Pittsburgh, big, he can make acrobatic catches, and Tony [Moeaki], who's been injured, but I remember doing work on him coming out of college from Iowa and I think he's a very skillful tight end.
"Skill-wise, I think we have some stuff to work with."
In a snapshot of Daboll's play-calling style, the Dolphins successfully mixed and matched offensive personnel to out-scheme the Chiefs in a 31-3 victory at Arrowhead Stadium last season.
Miami ended Kansas City's four-game winning streak by averaging 7.5 yards per snap with seven plays going for 20 or more yards. Bush averaged 7.1 yards per carry, Moore finished with a 147.5 passer rating and Marshall posted a 100-yard outing in Miami's blowout victory.
"I think that in this league, if you've got a quarterback that can perform, that helps you," Crennel said. "And so he understands about the quarterback position, he understands about the complimentary positions that go with it and so you can see a little bit of everything. I think that the offense will be all-encompassing. You could see some no huddle, you could see some multiple tight ends, you can see two-back and you can see one-back. We can see it all.
"It's probably more similar to what Miami was doing last year than anything else. You saw runs, you saw play-action, you saw shock plays and I think that's what we'll have in an offense."
Daboll, it seems, was one of Crennel's top targets all along. He was the only person Crennel offered the position to and the Chiefs month-long search for an offensive coordinator was tied directly to Daboll's job status with the Dolphins.
Miami waited until late January, after Joe Philbin had been hired to replace Tony Sparano as head coach, to release Daboll from his contract with the club.
"I think Miami wanted to try and keep Brian and they didn't want to let him go and so we had to wait to work through that process," Crennel said. "In the mean time we did talk to other people about it, about the position but when Brian became available and after talking with him we felt like he was the best for the Chiefs and I made the decision to hire the guy."
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:16 am to TidalSurge1
LINK ]Who is Brian Daboll?
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The Patriots have brought back an old face, who just might be responsible for the offense's long term turnaround.
Rich Hill | Dec 17, 2013
During last year's postseason run, the New England Patriots made a curious move to bring back coach Brian Daboll into a coaching assistant role. Daboll has New England in his blood, having cut his teeth with the franchise in 2000 as a defensive assistant, before moving over to be the wide receivers coach from 2002 to 2006.
He moved up to be the Jets quarterback coach in 2007 and 2008, before getting hired as the Browns offensive coordinator for 2009 and 2010. After that, he hopped to the Dolphins as their offensive coordinator in 2011 and over to the Chiefs as their offensive coordinator in 2012.
Daboll's been around the coaching block and still stands at 38 years young. Bill Belichick and the Patriots thought it was worth bringing him back to have another developed offensive coaching mind back in the system, possibly for fresh eyes, possibly for a potential larger role.
The curious thing about Daboll is that he has a nose for talent. There's no coincidence the Patriots wanted to bring him in as soon as possible, in order to let him get his hands dirty and his feet wet with the NFL draft. According to the book War Room by Michael Holley, Daboll was the coach who didn't like the draft pick of Chad Jackson, but was overridden by Belichick and Josh McDaniels.
In fact, there was some tension that stemmed from the promotion of McDaniels to offensive coordinator over Daboll, who had spent more time in the system.
Daboll helped groom Deion Branch and David Givens, the last two productive wide receivers the Patriots drafted for themselves (apart from Julian Edelman's emergence into stardom/system player status). In fact, their selection in 2002 coincides directly with Daboll as the wide receivers coach.
It's no coincidence that the Patriots are seeing positive gains with their rookie wide receivers this year. Daboll's return signifies not just a base level of humility between Belichick and McDaniels, but it also shows the team wanting to turn a new leaf with player development. While Daboll spent most of his time with the offensive line over the offseason, his value runs deeper.
He's a versatile football mind that can help this franchise in the future. He's a potential replacement should Dante Scarnecchia retire. He's a potential offensive coordinator candidate should Josh McDaniels receive another opportunity, or for when Belichick retires. He's a scouting mind and could possibly take a route to the front office, similar to how Nick Caserio made the switch (and with Caserio being a desired candidate around the league, the spot may open up soon).
Daboll's value can be seen in Aaron Dobson, Josh Boyce, and Kenbrell Thompkins. It'll be interesting to see how his role and impact continues to grow.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 8:21 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:41 am to TidalSurge1
LINK ]Houston Texans part ways with offensive coordinator George Godsey
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After three seasons with the Houston Texans, the organization has decided to go in a different direction in firing offensive coordinator George Godsey.
The Houston Texans were eliminated in the AFC Playoffs on Saturday night by the New England Patriots 34-16 in the AFC Divisional Round. While Houston was stout defensively all year, much of the blame for the Texans’ downfall was putrid play at the quarterback position.
Two days after their playoff exit, the Texans have found their offensive scapegoat and fired offensive coordinator George Godsey. He had been in that role the last two seasons and was head coach Bill O’Brien’s quarterbacks coach since 2014.
With Houston on the books for QB Brock Osweiler’s massive contract for the next three seasons and head coach Bill O’Brien off the hot seat with an AFC Wild Card win over the Oakland Raiders, it’s easy for the Texans organization to peg Godsey as the fall guy.
O’Brien previously stripped Godsey of play-calling duties mid-season. Both worked together for years on the New England Patriots offense under head coach Bill Belichick. Godsey stayed in Foxborough while O’Brien spent two years coaching the Penn State Nittany Lions (2012-13). They came together in Houston in 2014 once again.
Godsey is getting blamed, but this offensive quagmire is not his fault. General manager Rick Smith has helped build a great defense in Houston, but has had no idea what he is doing at quarterback. O’Brien was brought in to elevate the position in 2014 after the offense swooned under long-time head coach Gary Kubiak.
Look for Godsey to land with either the Patriots once again or on a coaching staff that has New England roots. Houston now needs to fill both its offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach this offseason.
Frankly, it’s not a very appealing job given the quarterbacks in tote and the tumultuous relationship between O’Brien and Smith. What top-tier offensive coordinator would want to go to Houston and risk being axed in a year along with O’Brien if they can’t get the offense right?
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 8:25 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:46 am to TidalSurge1
The more I read about Brian Daboll, the better he sounds.
By all accounts he would have been the OC in New England if McDaniels would've left. He's young and has a ton of OC experience. He's spent quite a bit of time under a demanding, perfectionist coach. Also, the players that he's coached speak really highly of him.
Maybe not the a splash hire like Kelly(who I'm not for anyway), but I think he's probably one of the best options out there.
By all accounts he would have been the OC in New England if McDaniels would've left. He's young and has a ton of OC experience. He's spent quite a bit of time under a demanding, perfectionist coach. Also, the players that he's coached speak really highly of him.
Maybe not the a splash hire like Kelly(who I'm not for anyway), but I think he's probably one of the best options out there.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:03 am to TideSaint
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He's also 93 years old.
Joe Louis was 137 years old.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:06 am to Goombaw
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The more I read about Brian Daboll, the better he sounds...
I agree. After reading that BamaOnline stuff (above) about Godsey and Daboll, I did a little more research on them.
Daboll has extensive good-fit expertise and OC experience. But if hired, he might soon be back at the Patriots as their next OC.
Godsey has less OC experience, but also appears to have solid good-fit expertise. If hired, he might be apt to stay longer.
After this research, I'm now having some doubts about the hunch I had yesterday that Eric Kiseau might be the front runner. But I do still think he's high on Saban's board.
Stanford OC Mike Bloomgren, PSU OC Joe Moorehead and USC OC Tee Martin may be possibilities too. It seems to me Bloomgren would be the more likely among those three.
Hard to tell if Saban is considering guys such as Sterlin Gilbert, Josh Heupel, one of Clemson's Co-OCs or others.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 9:28 am
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