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Posted on 8/18/18 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/18/18 at 6:44 pm to
You do know we changed up our training program 3 years ago right.? Just saying maybe it does or doesn’t have an affect.. but it was changed up. A lot of fans don’t realize that. Players are getting faster and stronger and more plays are being played. I’m sure that had a lot to do with it and probably all to do with it. Just saying it wouldn’t hurt to look at it
This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 6:57 pm to
I’m pretty sure it’s been said here, but with our depth concerns on D I think now more than ever we need Tua to get the offense rolling, because we will need a good bit of points this year.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20033 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 7:43 pm to
The amount of our players that get injured in practice is ridiculous and significantly higher than the norm.
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Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 9:09 pm to
LINK ]Both QBs played well in Alabama's second preseason scrimmage (BamaOnLine)


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Alabama’s defense made a lot of plays in the first scrimmage last week.

This week, however, went to the offense.

Following the roughly 130-play, two-hour scrimmage inside Bryant-Denny Stadium, head coach Nick Saban said his Crimson Tide team showed improvement between Scrimmages 1 and 2.

“We made a lot more explosive plays today, were a lot more consistent on offense, took care of the ball pretty well,” Saban said Saturday afternoon. “Both quarterbacks played well. … We had a couple two-minute situations at the end of the game that we were successful at.”

No official statistics were released following the game-like practice, but by all accounts, Jalen Hurts and Tua Tagovailoa both performed well in the muggy conditions in the Druid City.

The junior and sophomore have battled for the starting job behind center throughout the preseason, and following a strong performance in last week’s first scrimmage, Tagovailoa appeared to have the upper hand in the competition. The southpaw was the first quarterback out with the first-team offense and after some forced throws, settled down to finish strong, per a source.

But Tagovailoa and Hurts alternated possessions with the ones, and Hurts had a much better day than the first outing in the home stadium this fall camp, rounding out was a solid day for both signal callers with two weeks until the opener, according to those in attendance.

So, the quarterback battle will continue throughout the remaining days of camp and into UA’s first game week of the season, when it begins preparing for Louisville. And asked where he has seen improvement specifically from Tagovailoa, Saban praised both quarterbacks.

“Look, everybody has improved,” Saban said.

“Jalen has made a lot of improvement. Tua has made a lot of improvement. I think he has a better understanding of the offense, he’s got a lot more reps. I think he’s always been a very instinctive player. But I think he would tell you that his knowledge and experience has certainly benefited him in having greater confidence and understanding for what he’s doing.”

And prior to Saturday’s second scrimmage, Saban still did not rule out using both players.

“We have two guys who are great competitors, who are both really good players,” Saban said. “They both have had good fall camps, so I don’t expect (the decision) to be easy. I want them to continue to compete and work hard and do well. Our coaches are working hard to help each one of those guys to be the best player that they can be, and we're going to continue to do that.

“Like I said before, if both guys can contribute to our team, we’ll certainly utilize that the best way we can.”

Alabama will have Sunday off and return to the practice field Monday, Aug. 20, at 2:30 p.m.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 9:38 pm to
LINK ]State of Alabama's outside linebackers after Allen's injury (BOL | embedded video)


OLBs Eyabi Anoma (left) and Cameron Latu.
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Alabama is down yet another linebacker as sophomore Christopher Allen is “probably out for the season,” Crimson Tide head coach Nick Saban announced after Saturday’s fall scrimmage.

That makes two outside linebackers out for the foreseeable future with injuries as Allen joined junior Terrell Lewis (ACL) on the sideline. Alabama also lost two inside linebackers with Keith Holcombe choosing to play baseball and VanDarius Cowan being dismissed.

“That’s unfortunate that we have two of those now at the same position, both guys that have made a contribution to our team,” Saban said at Bryant-Denny Stadium. “We don’t have enough depth, especially on defense to be able to afford to lose those kind of players.”

Here, BamaOnLine breaks down Alabama’s outside linebacker position after another injury:
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Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 10:17 pm to
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Starters: Anfernee Jennings, Christian Miller

Jennings and Miller were poised to start before any of these injuries occurred, but the setbacks only solidified that notion. After dealing with injuries of their own last season -- Jennings (knee) and Miller (biceps) -- the veteran pass-rushers are now healthy and have led the position group this preseason. They were the first two outside ‘backers in base on Saturday afternoon.

“We basically have Anfernee and Christian Miller, who have been starters around here,” Saban said. “Past that, we have Ben Davis and (three) freshmen. That’s basically what we have. If we had more inside linebackers -- Joshua McMillon could play the position, but I’m not sure we could afford to move him. So, we’re very thin at those two positions right now.”

Still, Jennings and Miller give UA a veteran duo to apply pressure on quarterbacks off the edge.
This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 10:28 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 10:17 pm to
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Returning reserves: Jamey Mosley, Ben Davis

Saban mentioned Davis in his post-scrimmage comments Saturday, but the former 5-star recruit has only seen the field in one game entering his redshirt sophomore season. As for Mosley, when Miller and Lewis both suffered serious injuries in Week 1 of last season, it was the former walk-on that was forced into duty for much of the season, starting opposite of Jennings.

The redshirt senior has been limited by a separated shoulder of late, but the good news for him and Alabama is he will likely return to action next week -- the week of the 2018 preseason.

“Jamey Mosley has been practicing some but no contact,” Saban said. “His position is not really one that you can play without contact, so he didn’t scrimmage today. But we feel like he’ll be back on the field and able to do some things next week.”
This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 10:21 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 10:18 pm to
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Newcomers: Jarez Parks, Eyabi Anoma, Cameron Latu

With the injuries, Alabama could be in a similar situation to last year where a freshman had to fill role as a key reserve. Luckily, UA has three promising first-year players on its current roster.

After a grayshirt year, Parks joined the program prior to the College Football Playoff and has a few more reps already under his belt than his fellow newcomers. Anoma and Latu joined the team this summer, and all three of the newcomers look the part from a physical standpoint. And according to an Alabama veteran, all of the young linebackers have caught on quickly.

“The biggest thing I’ve seen from them is their willingness to learn because obviously, those guys are all talented,” Miller said. “They wouldn’t be here if they weren’t. I’ve seen tremendous physical traits from them, but the thing I like about all those guys is they all want to learn.

“They’re texting me, coming up to me, asking me, ‘Can we get extra film?’ every day. That’s something that I think is awesome, and I’m more than willing to help them. Those guys have been doing a really good job. I just told them, ‘Y’all are probably the most advanced group of freshman that I’ve seen here since I’ve been here, and I’ve been here a while.’”

This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 11:02 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 10:19 pm to
LINK ]Alabama Fall Camp Photos: Day 14 (BOL)

Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 10:32 pm to
r/rolltide

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Phone died. Been drinking. Here’s the haps.

Defense:

Surtain was starting at star it seemed like during nickel and carter was first team money in dime.

Our two deep on the D-line is gonna be just fine.

Moses is gonna be a force in dime rabbits.

Jennings and Miller will be great just with the injury to Allen can’t get any more injuries.

All in all I feel good about our front 7 specially our two deep on the D-line. DoctorWho is correct though. This secondary is gonna be suspect. It’s hard to tell at these things because you’re scrimmaging yourself and might be playing against the best WR core and a top 10 draft pick at quarter back.

Offense

Tuas was warming up with the first team O-line and was the first quarterback to take snaps today. He had a slow start. Fired a laser to Jeudy for a first down, but didn’t complete like his next 6 passes. Ended up having a very good day and looked really really good in red zone and 2 minute. I can’t stress that even on the 6 straight incompletions he looked the part to a T and went therough his progressions and was just a hare off on throws. His anticipation is next level stuff. It’s absolutely amazing to see it live.

Jalen had a much better day than I anticipated. His first pass to waddle was an amazing wheel route that surtain got beat on for about 70 yards. Perfect throw. Stalled inside the 10, but nor really his fault. He was going agains the first team defense and the run defense stuffed them on first and second.

He connected with waddle on several big throws and consistently converted third downs. He still had issues on timing with the receivers, but had a much better day than what he had last week.

All in all between the quarterbacks from what I was told last week and saw this week. We have a great competition going on and I’m glad to see Jalen competent and TUA making the throws that have us all excited to see him in extensive action.

Waddle waddle waddle. Saban when he spoke to us talked about how impressed he has been with him. Dude is gonna be electric!!

Jerome ford is gonna be dynamite and our run game is gonna be incredible .

Our O-line is gonna be next level.


Seems to be an insider who posts over on the Bama reddit.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 10:42 pm to
Thanks for the post.
This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 11:06 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 11:14 pm to
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A top BOL insider -- A few things: The scrimmage was more pass oriented to test the qbs so the dline was able to pin their ears back. Offensive line will be good. Only thing different about our front 7 is depth. Waddle is an absolute STUD.

The most important thing I want to relay is this is a scrimmage that both offense and defense pretty much knows what is coming. The secondary will improve alot the next two weeks once all the mixing and matching stops and we start to focus on a core group.

That was a tired team you saw today after a grueling two weeks of camp. Oh and take the over in our game against Louisville.
This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7813 posts
Posted on 8/18/18 at 11:28 pm to
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I’m really starting to wonder about our training program.. this is getting out of hand


I get ya, but the main thing our training/summer staff could have improved on is teaching a promising ILB not to punch a middle aged white dude in a bar.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11877 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 10:57 am to
With our depth issues, I think it’s time the NCAA look really hard at the 85 scholly limit. What you are seeing is even a team like ours, with historic recruiting classes strung together like pearls on a necklace, is struggling with depth issues after a couple of injuries concentrated at one position. If we can’t shite out another player like CNS said, imagine how it would affect a New Mexico or an Illinois or even a Mississippi State. They would be forced to use walk-ons or players out of position. They need to allow 5-10 more scholarships. If you can’t afford it, maybe you don’t need to be D1.
Posted by We_R_The_Tide
Athens, Alabama
Member since Dec 2013
916 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:02 am to
Look st Tennessee just a few years ago with all their injuries.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:31 am to
quote:

middle aged white


Why is this any different from punching anybody in a bar?


And phil, other teams do have bad injury years, they plug and play and get their arse beat. It’s just bad luck and all teams have these kind of years occasionally. We just had a couple in a row. Sucks
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7813 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

middle aged white


quote:

Why is this any different from punching anybody in a bar?


It’s not, that’s just specifically who Cowan punched. Had Cowen punched a gay Asian cowboy I would have used that as the example.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 1:09 pm to
O, I guess it does add context. My apologies.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13136 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 1:23 pm to
Better still look at FSU in 2017 when they lost their only QB. Then again Alabama (as of today) is one of the few teams in the SEC that would still be in the hunt if they lost their starting QB (UGA might be as well). The rest would be looking at 6-6.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29681 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 1:29 pm to
Short scrimmage highlights

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