re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread

These Marxist Scum that you’re worried about are the ones burning this country down!!!

I’m not wrong about anything. If they are found treasonous they should be killed. I will defend my property as well. Neither of those statements are wrong.

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Has literally nothing to do with how you should respond to looters or rioters damaging your property. The topic in question is Surge's original ambiguous call for violence. That is "killing people" that is the subject there.

The capital punishment we are talking about is not about an individual defending his property, it is about Surge's call for "Marxist Scum" to be kidnapped and executed by the state.

Everything I said has been extremely clear, I am not sure how you are getting it wrong.

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I've also admitted that my initial post was unclear and have since clarified that I had interpreted "Marxist Scum" who are inciting nation-wide rioting and anarchy to mean "top leaders of organizations (e.g, Antifa) bent on destroying America from within." I also admitted that I should've been clear about that in my initial post. The way you and Spleen have chosen to interpret my initial post and react to it is not surprising. And I predicted that you and Spleen would still continue to pump your imagined takes on my initial post and your contrived narratives related to that.

Carry on.

You said this

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And for all the religious posts on this board, is that what Jesus would want? He'd see a bunch of poor people, many of which have a very long history of being viciously oppressed, block roads, smash windows, flip cop cars as a cry out to bring attention to perceived injustice, even if he did not agree with them, and think "Yeah, we should torture them to death"?

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Then this

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The reality is that someone can advocate for the murder of millions of people here on this board, and that not only not get banned, but have the support of the rest of the people here, including the moderator. That's absolutely insane.

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Surely you aren’t dumb enough to believe there are millions of rioters and looters, or did Millions just make your argument sound better.

And there is no excuse to riot and loot, no matter what excuses you are trying to make for them

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And for all the religious posts on this board, is that what Jesus would want? He'd see a bunch of poor people, many of which have a very long history of being viciously oppressed, block roads, smash windows, flip cop cars as a cry out to bring attention to perceived injustice, even if he did not agree with them, and think "Yeah, we should torture them to death"?

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I did, yes.

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The reality is that someone can advocate for the murder of millions of people here on this board, and that not only not get banned, but have the support of the rest of the people here, including the moderator. That's absolutely insane.

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There are millions of protestors, which are largely grouped together with the looters and rioters in people's minds who would talk about killing "marxist scum" on the internet. Maybe that is me making some assumptions. I think those assumptions would be fair considering what I have seen here and, to a much larger extent, the politics board.

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no matter what excuses you are trying to make for them

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I never made excuses for anything. I never claimed support for rioting or looting. I have not engaged in political arguments. I have stayed on the subject of my post, which is that the kind of shite I am talking about being supported here is incredibly disappointing and inappropriate.

None of these are examples of me saying something and then claiming that I did not say that thing.


You still haven't admitted that you were wrong, that you grossly misinterpreted my post and that I never said anything about defending yourself or your property from rioters or looters.

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some reason you think that’s ok for them to do

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Never said anything about any support for rioting or looting.

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surely be ok with ppl like him being killed

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I absolutely would not be okay with that and I have never expressed anything to suggest that I would.

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This is quite the assumption to make.

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Not sure why you feel like it’s ok for you to lump Surge in with others.

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Because "marxist scum" is pretty broad, I think it was very fair. As a marxist, it's pretty easy to interpret that as calling for my death. I will admit it was an assumption and that assumptions can be dangerous.

Are you ready to admit that you were wrong about misrepresenting my comments to make it seem that I was advocating for someone to not defend themselves or their property when under attack by rioters and looters?

No because you said rioters and looters shouldn’t face capital punishment and I gave you an example of some that would get capital punishment. You made a blanket statement and you shouldn’t have.

I don’t think it’s fair to make assumptions. You don’t like assumptions that all protesters are looters and rioters (neither do I), but I also don’t think what you said about Surge is right.

The only thing that I got wrong was I should have done a better job explaining myself when I said that I would defend myself and my property. I should have added more context to why I said it.

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So you agree that these ppl need to be stopped. That these ppl are very violent, right?

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Again, I am not going here to express my political opinions or argue against yours.

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But you would agree that the violent anarchistic more then likely feel that way about him also, right?

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I would not agree that they more than likely feel the same way. I would agree that some feel that way and that is completely unacceptable and antagonistic to the values as they were then. I actually grew up pretty deep in the punk scene and my social group was compromised of many "black blockers" which is what they were called before "antifa" took off. The vast majority were great people. We mostly played music, fed homeless people and fought skinheads. There absolutely were assholes in the scene. Most were treated as such. A few I knew were respected by people, which was always a point of contention for me personally. Most aren't anarchists because they want to cause pain and violence, they just see all the pain and violence that power causes and want it to fall down to be replaced by something better. Not too much different from hardcore libertarians tbh. Their hearts are in the right place even if their goals are frankly impossible and utopian nonsense that we are very far away from ever achieving. Granted this was a very long time ago.

I am not agreeing with this or condoning it. Hell, I have a poli sci degree. I absolutely believe in the social contract. But I do think they are largely misunderstood by the MSM and the right. Obviously there are people out there that are rioting and looting for the hell of it and those are not included here. "Anarchist" to me is a political position so I am referring to those acting on a political and philosophical foundation.