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Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:48 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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and we didn't play anybody worth a F other than auburn and LSU. Stats matter right? Not against the little sisters of the poor they don't.
The stats I cited take opponent difficulty into account.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:50 pm to 3down10
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However, it did, contrary to people who want to site bullshite stats,
Not sure how they’re bs but I don’t entirely disagree
I just had a problem with your “offense not defense” statement
Posted on 12/29/19 at 5:51 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Not sure how they’re bs but I don’t entirely disagree
I just had a problem with your “offense not defense” statement
I was talking about george's yards per play stat.
As for the offense, how often do you see teams win games where they give up pick sixes and have other turnovers? Basically never. Those are 14 point swings and they are huge, but all I ever hear about is the defense that started more freshman than any school in college football and how they must be the problem because some people claim they didn't see improvement(which is bullshite).
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 5:57 pm to 3down10
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I was talking about george's yards per play stat.
That’s not a BS stat. It’s the total yards divided by plays run. Pretty simple and not subjective. BS stats would be like the grades PFF puts out without explanation or other subjective ones yards given up by a defender. Because those are too subjective at times.
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As for the offense, how often do you see teams win games where they give up pick sixes and have other turnovers? Basically never. Those are 14 point swings and they are huge, but all I ever hear about is the defense.
Again my point was in regards to what you said, which was the offense was completely at fault.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 6:01 pm to 1BamaRTR
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That’s not a BS stat. It’s the total yards divided by plays run. Pretty simple and not subjective. BS stats would be like the grades PFF puts out without explanation or other subjective ones yards given up by a defender. Because those are too subjective at times.
He's posting a single stat as if it's the end all be all for the defense.
You gotta be pretty stupid to think Tulane has a better defense than Alabama, which is what his stat and his purpose for posting that stats is claiming.
The reason they stats there are lies, damn lies and statistics if for this very reason. Without context, stats are just big lies.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 6:08 pm to 3down10
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You gotta be pretty stupid to think Tulane has a better defense than Alabama, which is what his stat and his purpose for posting that stats is claiming.
He wasn’t saying Tulane had a better defense then us. His point was our defense played worse against AU then Tulane’s did.
You expect a way less talented and coached defense like Tulanes to give AU’s defense a far easier time compared to ours but that wasn’t the case.
Just like you look at yards per carry. Like if you have one RB that had a 100 yards on 20 carries while another ran for 100 yards on 12 carries. That’s why he didn’t bring up total yards.
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 6:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
SoG is spitting truth.
Moses is good. Perhaps very good. But he’s not elite.
Moses is good. Perhaps very good. But he’s not elite.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 6:41 pm to 1BamaRTR
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He wasn’t saying Tulane had a better defense then us. His point was our defense played worse against AU then Tulane’s did.
You expect a way less talented and coached defense like Tulanes to give AU’s defense a far easier time compared to ours but that wasn’t the case.
Just like you look at yards per carry. Like if you have one RB that had a 100 yards on 20 carries while another ran for 100 yards on 12 carries. That’s why he didn’t bring up total yards.
Our defense didn't play worse than Tulane and it's ridiculous that anyone actually believes that because of a stat.
Auburn played Tulane worse. It came the week after they played Oregon and they played terrible on offense. I think they fumbled like 3 or 4 times, had lots of dropped passes and/or bad throws etc.
Alabama would have likely shut Auburn out if the Auburn offense had played so badly.
But sure, let's go with the idea that Tulanes defense was better.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 6:56 pm to 3down10
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But sure, let's go with the idea that Tulanes defense was better.
Nobody is saying that.
For example look at the AU’s performance vs LSU compared with A&M. LSU averaged a slightly higher ypp and point total. Does that mean LSU’s offense is equal to A&M? No it means LSU didn’t play as well as expected.
Also you don’t have to look only at Tulane. He looked at all the games including their games versus other SEC teams.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:12 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Nobody is saying that.
For example look at the AU’s performance vs LSU compared with A&M. LSU averaged a slightly higher ypp and point total. Does that mean LSU’s offense is equal to A&M? No it means LSU didn’t play as well as expected.
Also you don’t have to look only at Tulane. He looked at all the games including their games versus other SEC teams.
He quoted the stats and said this:
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The only games Auburn had better offensive numbers in were Kent St, Mississippi St, Arkansas and Samford. Yea, what an insane expectation to want our defense to be better by Game 12 than that.
So yeah, that's exactly what he was saying.
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:17 pm to 3down10
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So yeah, that's exactly what he was saying.
No where did he say that they had better defenses then us. Have you considered that he was saying a better defensive performance then what happened?
I really don’t know how you think that SOG was saying we have a worse defense than Samford. He’s not troll.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:19 pm to 1BamaRTR
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No where did he say that they had better defenses then us. Have you considered that he was saying a better defensive performance then what happened?
I really don’t know how you think that SOG was saying we have a worse defense than Samford. He’s not troll.
Maybe you should read it again because he didn't say we had a worse defense than Samford. He said Samford was one of the few teams we did better than.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:30 pm to 3down10
Oh I did
But do you really think he saying we had a worse defense than Tulane or Ole Miss? Or, considering he’s not a troll, do you think he was saying we should’ve played better?
But do you really think he saying we had a worse defense than Tulane or Ole Miss? Or, considering he’s not a troll, do you think he was saying we should’ve played better?
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:40 pm to 1BamaRTR
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But do you really think he saying we had a worse defense than Tulane or Ole Miss? Or, considering he’s not a troll, do you think he was saying we should’ve played better?
Once again, this is what he said. Getting kind of tired of posting the same thing over and over.
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Yea, what an insane expectation to want our defense to be better by Game 12 than that.
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Again - it was Week 12, and we let Auburn perform better against us offensively than anybody else they played other than Kent St, Arkansas, Mississippi St and Samford.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:47 pm to 3down10
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better by Game 12 than that.
Again he said “that”. That refers to performance. Show me where he says exactly so-and-so team had a better defense than Bama.
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Again - it was Week 12, and we let Auburn perform better against us
He literally says perform here. Because that’s his overall point. No where in this does he say AU played against a worse defense.
Getting of tired of you thinking he is trolling. It’s not his fault or mine that you are purposely misconstruing what he was intending.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:47 pm to 3down10
What I said is pretty simple - Auburn put together a better offensive football game against us than they did against : Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Florida, Texas A&M, Tulane and Oregon.
Pts, yards per play, pts per drive, punts per drive, etc. By almost every offensive metric Auburn had their best offensive game since Arkansas against us.
I didn't say our defense was "worse" than Tulane's, I noted that in our 12th game of the year our defense allowed our opponent to have one of their best offensive games of the year.
That's what it meant.
Pts, yards per play, pts per drive, punts per drive, etc. By almost every offensive metric Auburn had their best offensive game since Arkansas against us.
I didn't say our defense was "worse" than Tulane's, I noted that in our 12th game of the year our defense allowed our opponent to have one of their best offensive games of the year.
That's what it meant.
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:50 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Again he said “that”. That refers to performance. Show me where he says exactly so-and-so team had a better defense than Bama.
He literally says perform here. Because that’s his overall point. No where in this does he say AU played against a worse defense.
So he doesn't think our defense is worse, he just cites stats for....random reasons?
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Getting of tired of you thinking he is trolling.
I don't think he's trolling, I think he's stupid, formed a false narrative and then went looking for stats to back up that narrative.
Like about 95% of the Alabama fanbase.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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What I said is pretty simple - Auburn put together a better offensive football game against us than they did against : Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Florida, Texas A&M, Tulane and Oregon.
Pts, yards per play, pts per drive, punts per drive, etc. By almost every offensive metric Auburn had their best offensive game since Arkansas against us.
I didn't say our defense was "worse" than Tulane's, I noted that in our 12th game of the year our defense allowed our opponent to have one of their best offensive games of the year.
That's what it meant.
So you admit the stats you posted are bullshite and don't mean anything.
Good. About time.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:54 pm to 3down10
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So he doesn't think our defense is worse, he just cites stats for....random reasons?
Either you are trolling or stupid at this point. I’m going to go with trolling. I gave you the example (the LSU and A&M) of why he brought it up. It’s to say that we should’ve performed better.
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Like about 95% of the Alabama fanbase.
Ok troll
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