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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)

Posted on 12/21/17 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37838 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Hey Gene, when are ya gonna start another thread on the Auburn board to stir up shite with the mods over there?


Which one was that? I'm pretty much 95% bball posting now and don't start many threads there anymore

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I like your insight Gene, but stay the hell away after a loss for a few days, especially if it's to Auburn


I stayed away after AU games last year. I posted a little in game threads just to get the Bama perspective on the game or a "coinflip call" (which both teams felt like refs screwed both sides )

Most of my downvotes come from expressing some unpopular (but I think legit) Bama bball viewpoints + when people ask about AU (e.g FBI investigation thoughts/clarification)

I think the closest I've got to das Boot was when I expressed concern about a decline in Bama's D due to the loss of Jimmy Taylor/Bola. Which, if you look at the D metrics (even w/ huge Donta improvement), seems to be a pretty valid concern


This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 1:28 pm to
The #FreeJang thread. You were slapping Ross around pretty good
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2738 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Hopefully one day I can even get ArabianKnight laughing and not constantly trying to purge me from here


Well it is Christmas time.....so I'll be nice for a week or two.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11866 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 1:41 pm to
What’s Bruce’s status? Is he cooperating now or is he still in a pissing contest with the administration?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37838 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 1:47 pm to
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The #FreeJang thread. You were slapping Ross around pretty good


Oh that. You'd probably enjoy my SECr thread too LINK

Awhile back it started with this joke. Since then, I've just consistently joked that Ross the board admin doesn't exist
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37838 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:57 pm to
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What’s Bruce’s status?


Currently projected to be starting head coach vs UConn Saturday

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Is he cooperating now


The cooperation story was a bit misleading. Bruce agreed to cooperate... to an extent (and seemingly within his rights)
A) full cooperation after FBI Person case
B) Interviewing filtered questions w/ a lawyer under "Garrity Rights Protection"

I can explain why if you want, but the NCAA/FBI both were 100% supportive of Bruce's two suggested levels of cooperation.

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still in a pissing contest with the administration?


TL;DR Short answer: Bruce & Admin are now on amicable terms and both sides have made concessions. Bruce isn't off the hook, but pending new condemning information he is safe.

Long Story: I got some pretty decent sources on this. The general points appear to be right

The new AU President Steven Leath's first 6 months have been plagued by multiple, publicly embarrassing athletic scandals. These scandals hit quite a range of topics from inappropriate behavior, equal opportunity + major NCAA rules violations that involved AU sports legends.

Steven Leath took an "if you aren't 100% with us, you are part of the problem" stance. BBall people intepreted this as a "kangaroo court out to clean house" that ignored concerns about FBI criminal liability. So Bruce, by only offering the above options, was viewed as a betrayal, sign of guilt, firable offense for not cooperating. Keep in mind Bruce's defense appears to have a pretty sound legal framework (=buyout) + NCAA backed Bruce. AU legal counsel disagrees w/ the Garrity rights claim, but it would be a legal nightmare, publicly embarrassing to enforce


The leaked negative press ("refusal to cooperate" + suspension details of bball staffers) appears to come from inside the AU Administration. My guess is they were trying to generate pressure on Bruce to cooperate + support from AU fans to fire him

Instead, the Auburn fanbase rallied to Bruce believing that he wasn't getting a fair shake. AU admin seemed to forget that Auburn fans are conspiracy theorists and this potentially involved AU Pres, AU Legal counsel + Jimmy "YellaFella" Rane all scapegoating a beloved AU bball coach.

In addition to the normal calling/tweeting/emails, someone (i.e. arguably AU's biggest bball donor) posted Steven Leath's personal email address. From that email, Steven Leath responded in an "unpresidential" way which was unbecoming of the public leader of the university. As a result, some counter pressure criticizing Stephen Leath's start as AU President, personal behavior + past problems at ISU made Leath realize this bball situation can cost him his job too.



I think both sides realized that making concessions was in their mutual interest or they both could get fired. Bruce Pearl has publicly supported Leath the entire time + claims he is getting a fair shake while AU admin seems to have settled down.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
6798 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:39 pm to
Ala -3.5 Texas

Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 5:36 pm to
@DavidKnight81 on twitter

Ok @AlabamaHoops, 14,584 tickets sold as of right now for the Vulcan Classic tomorrow night. 2,156 seats left to go. WE NEED A SELLOUT! @CoachAvery6 @BryanPassink @CStewartSports @KnightEady
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25413 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 7:35 pm to
Saw on twitter that DJ Hogg is suspended 3 games for A&M so that includes their game against us. That means they won't have Gilder or him.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6044 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 2:22 pm to
If only Nick King would have stayed. Averaging 23 PPG for a currently projected at-large bid team.

Speaking of tournament projections. After the Texas A&M game, Alabama will have played 5 straight and 8 total (out of 13 games) projected tournament teams. That's doesn't include BYU or UCF who both have a very solid chance of making the tournament. That means only 3 of the teams we've played, Memphis, Alabama A&M, and LA Tech (and they aren't completely out yet), are the only teams solidly out of the tournament picture as of today. That's an insane schedule to start the season with, especially with a team led by freshmen.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29891 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:53 pm to
Alright, my score prediction:

Bama 76
Horns 71
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:10 pm to
83-78 Bama
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:21 pm to
I don't predict scores of Bama games because I'm scared I'll jinx em. No football or basketball. I have bad luck
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29891 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:33 pm to
Encouraging sign is Collin has found his stroke at the FT line. Huge going forward
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29891 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:34 pm to
I usually dont either but the 2 games I decided not to do it (Minn. And UCF) we lost so now I feel obligated.
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:24 pm to
Is there a best place to park at the BJCC? If so, where is it? Thanks!
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13219 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:36 pm to
Oklahoma is quite good
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29891 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:54 pm to
Holy shite they got 68 at halftime
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:55 pm to
Trae Young is insane! I’m so excited that they come to Tuscaloosa next month. Coleman will be sold out for sure that game.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29891 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:09 pm to
He dont play good defense. Sexton is gonna give him the business
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