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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)

Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:34 pm to


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:36 pm to
Issac Hass fractured his elbow, out for the tournament

So, if the Lord grants us victory tomorrow, the remaining road is

- West Virginia/Marshall
- Florida/Arkansas/Butler/Texas Tech/Purdue minus Hass

We shall overcome
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:38 pm to
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it's honestly really hard to discuss some of the "advanced metrics" (though at this point they are pretty mainstream) with the general public aka the Rant.


I do my best to try and simplify and ensure any use is easy to conceptualize + interpret

ORtg is generally one I never use as a primary metric because people don't know how to benchmark it and it's hard to tie back into an impact on the game both in terms of supporting role + primary role impact.


Generally speaking, I've found doing the following significantly helps when presenting adv stats

- Use nat'l/SEC ranks when available, people always like rankings
- Use relative benchmarking with known players. Compare O/D reb% to Yante Maten for example
- Incorporate raw "per 40" in there but pivot to explaining why 'this is misleading because XYZ'
Posted by McGregor
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:41 pm to
the pic of her stomping on the bleachers

xanax and chardonay make for a smooth second half
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:44 pm to
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- Incorporate raw "per 40" in there but pivot to explaining why 'this is misleading because XYZ'


"Ken Pom is stupid how did he rank my guy behind your guy his opinion is stupid"
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:46 pm to
Who is this Ken Pom?
Posted by McGregor
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:50 pm to
some rube from Cullman, Kenny D Palm.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:00 pm to
Oh
Posted by Gustave
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:03 pm to
How long you guys think Avery can keep Petty in the dark about being in Pittsburg and not Tuscaloosa?

Only metric I'm worried about.
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Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:07 pm to
I think if we can hold them below 75 we win.
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Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:08 pm to
She's not unattractive at all, and with that kind of passion she's probably a ton of fun when the lights go out.


But you just know if she ever thinks he so much as looked at some cute coed she'll go full Lorena Bobbitt on him.
Posted by JBearden
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:35 pm to
Damn Butler is good at hiring bball coaches.Lavar Jordan seems like a future star.Team seemed well coached and his interview was impressive.

On another note. Damn Arkansas may be as bipolar as us.
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:44 pm to
Geneschin and SoG in this thread

Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:48 pm to
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quote:

Incorporate raw "per 40" in there but pivot to explaining why 'this is misleading because XYZ'

"Ken Pom is stupid how did he rank my guy behind your guy his opinion is stupid


I know that feeling

So there's this super weird narrative in the AU community that Danjel Purifoy wasn't that big of a loss and they don't care if he comes back while Wiley would make us universe champions . I'm like captain of the #freeDanjel movement so it drives me nuts

I legit explained on the AU board the other day how Danjel Purifoy before getting injured was AU's best player by nearly every possible statistical metric

I no sh*t got this answer

quote:

I watched the game and am a professional arm chair coach so gfy. Stats dont mean everything. One day you will learn that

Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:50 pm to
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Geneschin and SoG in this thread


I was a math major and work in a statistics heavy corporate finance role. This stuff is all I think about, it's as important to me as watching the game itself
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:50 pm to
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How long you guys think Avery can keep Petty in the dark about being in Pittsburg and not Tuscaloosa?


How much Colorado medicine did Avery pack?
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:50 pm to
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I think if we can hold them below 75 we win.




We also have to kind of expect that same offensive performance from our end too. I don't want to say the last game was an anomaly, but how often do we see Bama play that efficient on offense? Conversely, I guess you could ask how often do we see Sexton get held to 3 points in the first half too.

I say we pound Hall and Smith inside early and see if we can get Nova in foul trouble early. Alabama simply needs to limit the turnovers on offense to have a chance against Nova.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:15 pm to
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I don't want to say the last game was an anomaly, but how often do we see Bama play that efficient on offense?


Only one other time this season vs Alabama A&M

VT Game Single Game Season Rankings

eFG% - #2 68.0%
OReb%- #2 45.5%
Free Throw Rate - #10 54 per 100
2FG % - #2 68.8%
3FG % - #3 44.4%
TO% - #29 24.8%
Posted by CrimsonBoz
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:20 pm to
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. Alabama simply needs to limit the turnovers on offense to have a chance against Nova


100%. We do half of that and we have a possible 10 more points.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
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37838 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:24 pm to
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I guess you could ask how often do we see Sexton get held to 3 points in the first half too.


Appears to be 6 times this year

L v UCF- 2 Points
W v USCe- 2 Points
W v LSU - 3 points
L v Ole Miss - 3 Points
L v UK - 2 points
W v VT - 3 Points
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