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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:42 pm to Bryant91092
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:42 pm to Bryant91092
It's only Monday, by Thursday George is gonna be ready to win the tournament
We'll be here for ya George. Remember, you are not alone 
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:43 pm to Cobrasize
I didn't want to be the one to say it. 
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:43 pm to Cobrasize
Random thoughts: Sr. starting Arkansas forward Dustin Thomas released from team for undisclosed team violation.
I wonder if Giddens will accept the challenge or pout regarding his pine time and no minutes in the last game?
I wonder if Giddens will accept the challenge or pout regarding his pine time and no minutes in the last game?
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:47 pm to reachup
Giddens looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Such a huge disappointment.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I imagine Howland had a hand in that schedule and felt they weren't ready to step up in OOC yet
Scheduling at a smaller stature program in a non fertile bball recruiting area is a lot harder than people realize.
- Can't sell based on games being nationally televised
- Can't sell that you'll be a quality opponent
- Can't sell fertile recruiting grounds
- Can't sell big paycheck
- Can't sell publicity/media buzz
Bruce Pearl has had the same problems at AU. His previous tough scheduling at TN is MIA because we can't find good opponents willing to do home/home, neutral or neutral site tournaments
I mean, you got to be really desperate to schedule Murray St for a Home/Home
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Pretty stupid then. It's year 3 and he had a roster with a few upperclassmen and talented freshmen.
Eh, their OOC schedule wasn't expected to be this dumpster fire to start the season. It wasn't a good OOC, but multiple opponents fell off a cliff thisyear
MSU's OOC Opponent Record is 176-201 for 46.7% Win%, Based on the previous 3YR average record, they'd be 219-171 56.1%
-7/12 opponents had a 3YR avg of 20+ Wins, this year only 3 opponents have >20 Wins (or realistically possible)
-3/12 opponents have Win% >50%, 7/12 opponents had win% >50% on 3YR avg
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:54 pm to reachup
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I wonder if Giddens will accept the challenge or pout regarding his pine time and no minutes in the last game?
With teh way he played late in the Florida game, and him being made available to the press in the post-game, I thought for sure he'd get significant playing time. But then with Davis and Williams in the A&M frontcourt, they'd have eaten his lunch.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:57 pm to The Spleen
Also George, something to ponder
No team with a BPI SoR >50 has had an at large bid since BPI's earliest season 2007. Alabama SoR is at #65 right now.
No team with a BPI SoR >50 has had an at large bid since BPI's earliest season 2007. Alabama SoR is at #65 right now.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:59 pm to GenesChin
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Scheduling at a smaller stature program in a non fertile bball recruiting area is a lot harder than people realize.
This is a fair point.
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MSU's OOC Opponent Record is 176-201 for 46.7% Win%, Based on the previous 3YR average record, they'd be 219-171 56.1%
This is also true to an extent : they got unlucky with Green Bay, North Dakota State, UT-Martin and Dayton.
They got about what could be expected out of SFA and Jax State.
They got what should be expected with Alabama State, Florida A&M, Little Rock, Southern Miss and North Florida, though. Combine that with 1 semi-P5 OOC game @ Cincinnati and the ceiling for that schedule was always going to be low.
I know it's hard sometimes to get good home and homes, but playing 1 AAC team as your only non-mid major in the entire OOC just can't happen. You have to find a way to get 2-3 more teams in there or it is going to hurt you later in the year, unless you just don't think you have any shot at the NCAA Tournament.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:00 pm to GenesChin
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No team with a BPI SoR >50 has had an at large bid since BPI's earliest season 2007. Alabama SoR is at #65 right now.
Stop stop stop
I don't actually think we are going to win and make the tournament. However, if we win 2 more against A&M and Auburn, the committee would basically have to say "Look, this whole Quadrant thing was just a joke LOL". We'd be that far out in front of everyone else from the #10 seed line down basically.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:02 pm to Cobrasize
Guys - I don't really expect to win these games. I'm honestly just trying to make myself semi-not pissed off.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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He's not perfect but he without a doubt adds some spark to the offense.
Remember last season's Ole Miss game we looked like dogshit most of the first half and Avery put Lawson in late in the first half and he gave us a huge spark. He definitely would try harder than anyone else that's for sure.
Lawson is who I'm talking about above if there's any confusion
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:05 pm to train1523
I don't even think it's effort, he just has a natural ability to see things that we don't really have on the roster.
Now, his physical limitations mean he sometimes sees something but can't physically get the ball where he wants to, so he will make mistakes. However, be also does things that get guys in a flow sometimes.
Now, his physical limitations mean he sometimes sees something but can't physically get the ball where he wants to, so he will make mistakes. However, be also does things that get guys in a flow sometimes.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Alabama State, Florida A&M, Little Rock, Southern Miss and North Florida, though
North Florida avg 20+Wins over the past 3 years + has had a winning conf record in 7/8 years. They definitely underperformed
I imagine Southern Miss is a political/forced opponent moreso than Howland wanting to schedule them.
No idea why teams schedule FAMU
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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However, if we win 2 more against A&M and Auburn, the committee would basically have to say "Look, this whole Quadrant thing was just a joke LOL". We'd be that far out in front of everyone else from the #10 seed line down basically.
2 Wins and you should be in
If Bama goes 1-1 though, I'm not sold that is going to be enough unless there is a bigger pool of at large bids than normal
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:55 pm to GenesChin
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"I don't even have Alabama on my bubble at the moment...they're not on my board. They don't have a good enough record to make the NCAA tournament right now. There is no point in considering them" - @jppalmCBS
This is a Jerry Palm quote from Finebaum's twitter
It's correct and it pisses me off
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:59 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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I have read on another Bama site that Coach Johnson's buyout is 9 million. If that is correct then he will be back. How in the hell can the AD offer a BB contract with a buyout of 9 million to a F BB coach?
I looked up his original contract and his buyout schedule was as follows: $6 million last year, $5 Million this year, $4 million next year, $3 million in 2020. Now that in itself is criminal enough since this man had no job offers and no prospects of one. But last August, we gave him a 2 year extension, I guess for the recruiting and for getting close 2 years in a row, ahead of schedule. That is also criminal and it bothers me simply because Byrne had to sign off on the extension. So now we sit here in year 3, still just close, with this man robbing us blind whether we keep him and his $3 million+ salary a year or buy him out. If we bumped his buyout to $9 million, he's blackmailing someone. Even so, my tactic would be to fire him "with cause" for the Sexton incident just to bring him to the negotiating table because either stance (with cause, or $9 mil) is completely ridiculous.
ETA: I don't believe the $9 million number for 1 minute unless I see it from a credible source like Finebaum or Cecil or someone.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 6:03 pm to phil4bama
I feel like we are helpless and that we're being held hostage by an inadequate coach. This sucks and I can't get over it. I need spring practice to start soon. 
Posted on 3/5/18 at 6:05 pm to Cobrasize
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I feel like we are helpless and that we're being held hostage by an inadequate coach.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 6:08 pm to GenesChin
That actually makes me feel better.

Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:13 pm to Cobrasize
shite! Shoulda known it was coming but UGA is about to cut Mark Fox loose unless he wins the SEC tourney. They will be in the market for an upgrade. I have no idea who is on their short list but we don't need another SEC team in the market if we decide to rip off the bandaid AND we don't need another SEC school making an upgrade. Frick!!
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