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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:48 pm to Bamainva40
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:48 pm to Bamainva40
Honestly, at this point I don't think my opinion will change even if we make the tournament. I am sure that is not the correct way to look at the situation though. 
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:52 pm to CrimsonTider98
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Ben Howland would have this team in the NCAAT this year. The reason we're not is entirely on Avery.
Based on what? His team last year had the #10 class of freshmen, and he didn't even make the NIT. Two of his three best recruits got so fed up with him they transferred after 1 season.
Howland's first class at State was top 25. He basically immediately got talent there, and they still haven't won anything.
Why is the coach ya'll go with to say Avery is shite another coach that hasn't reached the tournament in 3 years at his school? That seems like an argument an Avery backer should be using.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:57 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Howland is 3-1 over his last 4, is one game ahead of us in the SEC, and hasn’t lost his team. He may not be lighting it up in StarkVegas but we’re in no position to throw stones.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:00 pm to Bama323_15
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Honestly, at this point I don't think my opinion will change even if we make the tournament. I am sure that is not the correct way to look at the situation though.
This is the point that I'm at. I doubt we get a change, but we can hope. I'm just not happy with Avery's coaching.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:01 pm to phil4bama
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Howland is 3-1 over his last 4
Two of those 3 wins were against South Carolina and Ole Miss.
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is one game ahead of us in the SEC
So he's doing marginally better than our horse shite squad and staff.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:01 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Two of those 3 wins were against South Carolina and Ole Miss.
Ole Miss kicked our arse
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:03 pm to Cobrasize
Yes they did. 
Point is Howland isn't making the tournament either.
There's no reason to compare Avery to other coaches, and if we are, can we at least use some coaches that are having more success than Avery like Rick Barnes (same year as Avery, less talent, 1st in the SEC)
I watch our team- it's poorly coached and sucks. Who cares what other coaches would or wouldn't be doing with our team?
Point is Howland isn't making the tournament either.
There's no reason to compare Avery to other coaches, and if we are, can we at least use some coaches that are having more success than Avery like Rick Barnes (same year as Avery, less talent, 1st in the SEC)
I watch our team- it's poorly coached and sucks. Who cares what other coaches would or wouldn't be doing with our team?
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:06 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Yea, I don't give a shite about the Howland and Avery argument, I don't want either in Tuscaloosa
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:22 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Right Tom, Howland is doing only marginally better than Bama right now. But should he be doing better at all?? And if changes aren’t made, I’ll wager the gap widens in their favor. He’s a proven coach. So he’s not in the Final Four in year 3 in Starkville. He’s built a solid foundation and they appear to be on a slow, steady climb. I’ll take that over what we’ve got any day.
I’m not saying we should hire Howland. But if we had, I feel we would be in a better place than we are. Marginally better is still better and there’s no good reason for it.
I’m not saying we should hire Howland. But if we had, I feel we would be in a better place than we are. Marginally better is still better and there’s no good reason for it.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:27 pm to phil4bama
That's arguable because state's OOC was complete shite and we did enough to build our resume with a very good non conference. The league is strong this year whether people want to dispute that or not. We've been inconsistent but we re not completely done yet and maybe the team will realize that.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:33 pm to Bamainva40
Absolutely Va. You are correct MSU’s OOC was garbage. But they are 9-8 in the SEC with losses similar to ours. Again, maybe not the impressive wins but very similar otherwise. When you factor in who we’ve beaten, you wonder how the hell they have a better conference record.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:50 pm to phil4bama
If u look at the league standings there is barely any separation beyond the top 2... Alot of close games this year. I don't think it'll be quite as tight next year. Ole miss, Arkansas, Texas A&M , Georgia, south Carolina , and Florida will have some big question marks. I still think our roster will be as good , maybe better along with some more experience. Auburn, Tennessee, and Kentucky will probably be picked near the top with us, state, LSU, and vandy the next tier..Not sure about Missouri.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:19 pm to Bamainva40
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South Carolina win eliminates scenarios where Alabama could finish 11th (and saves the @HunterLJohnson Twitter account from deletion)
From Cecil...no Wednesday game for Bama
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:40 pm to AHM21
Whats the highest seed we can get? We re at 8 right now in the sec bracket as of now?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:43 pm to Bamainva40
Before the loss to Florida, the highest seed we could get was a 3. Not sure what it is now
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:51 pm to Bamainva40
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Auburn, Tennessee, and Kentucky will probably be picked near the top with us, state, LSU, and vandy the next tier..
Hate to break it to you, but there is no way a Sexton less Bama team is getting picked by the media preseason in the top 6 and likely won't be top 8
Bama won't be in the above tier, Vandy/Mizzou depend on if Vandys signing recovers and if Mizzou get back Jontay Porter
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Ole miss, Arkansas, Texas A&M , Georgia, south Carolina , and Florida will have some big question marks
UF returns enough talent + a 5* PG to replace Chiozza and get back Egbinu
SC return 80% and Silva and may somehow get Bowen. If they do they'll be ahead
Way Early media Preseason projection
1. UK
2. TN
3. AU
4. State
5. LSU
6. UF
7. Mizzou
8. Vandy
9. SC
10. Bama
11. Arkansas
12. TAMU
13. Ole Miss
14. UGA
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:55 pm to GenesChin
I also think SEC gets 9 teams in next year maybe even 10 if LSU/UK/Vandy don't let their youth F up early OOC schedule
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:56 pm to GenesChin
Gene we won't lose anyone but Sexton...C'mon 10th?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:00 pm to Bamainva40
On paper...There aren't 9 more talented teams than what Bama will return, coaching can be debated ad nauseum but it's not like we lose alot plus we add a solid recruiting class including tevin Mack being eligible.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:01 pm to Bamainva40
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Gene we won't lose anyone but Sexton...C'mon 10th
You mean 30% of your offense and only competent PG/ball handler? No way the media is going to vote this team high
Every other team ahead of you either is making serious jumps forward or returning the same players from better teams
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