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Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:47 pm to Bamainva40
I think/hope that all good ADs keep lists of candidates. I hope some candidates have already put feelers out anyway.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:52 pm to Cobrasize
I've personally seen enough of Avery to think he isn't going to be the guy, but he's done enough to buy one more year with wins vs top 25 opponents. Plus I doubt he'll get the door with his contract, as Phil alluded too in earlier post. My hope is Thad Matta will last another year and we can go and get him, but I think someone will pick him up this offseason.
This next hire is going to be so crucial for the program. It's going to determine where the trajectory of this program is headed and show if the gap between us and other conference programs widens or closes. Hiring a good basketball coach seems so difficult of a hire to make too, because people can see so many smaller schools have success consistently, and you wonder why we can't play like them. Then someone hires a mod-major guy, and for some reason, can't figure it out. It's also something that fans judge you probably the most on behind football on whether you're a good AD or not.
This next hire is going to be so crucial for the program. It's going to determine where the trajectory of this program is headed and show if the gap between us and other conference programs widens or closes. Hiring a good basketball coach seems so difficult of a hire to make too, because people can see so many smaller schools have success consistently, and you wonder why we can't play like them. Then someone hires a mod-major guy, and for some reason, can't figure it out. It's also something that fans judge you probably the most on behind football on whether you're a good AD or not.
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:55 pm to Cobrasize
Probably so, I'm torn because of the talent we have and we've seen them put it together in the big wins, but Avery has got to figure out a way to turn this around but if he can't I guess the positive is the next coach would be set up for success. Aside from Collin everyone should return , was just hoping we could get in the dance as a first step.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:57 pm to Bamainva40
Hell, if you really want to be disgusted go to the OT and look at the teacher that got caught banging a 14 year old. He freaking told oh her. Between Bama basketball a hot as hell teacher with that bad of a moral compass and a stupid 14 year old kid, I'm about done with the internet today 
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:02 pm to CrimsonTider98
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No lottery picks or probably even players that will get drafted.
Malik Newman was just as highly ranked coming in as Sexton was. And they were TERRIBLE. Let's also not forgot who got us this young talent. It shouldn't be a knock on Avery that he got elite talent. Bottom line is that Alabama is in a MUCH better situation than Mississippi State is, and it's not close. Thinking otherwise is delusional.
BTW for those saying there's no excuse for what's happening, no one is arguing that this season hasn't been a disappointment thus far. Everyone knows that it has been. You can know that, be disappointed in Avery, and still be thankful that Ben Howland is not your coach.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:08 pm to BigBird09
It's actually those wins vs ranked teams this year that's saving us from being completely done. The fact that we re a 10 seed in 3 major updated brackets tells me that we just need 1 win. Confidence can springboard u or bury u if u have none. We've lost our confidence and need to get it back Saturday.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:08 pm to BigBird09
You're also missing the fact that Alabama is a much better job than Mississippi State. Starkville is a hard place to get talent. He inherited a program that finished at the bottom of the league three straight years. Ben Howland would have this team in the NCAAT this year. The reason we're not is entirely on Avery.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:10 pm to BigBird09
And if you think Alabama has a bright future, than I don't know what you're watching. None of these guys are playing hard for their coach, and CAJ is the worst in-game coach in the SEC right now.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:14 pm to Bamainva40
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It's actually those wins vs ranked teams this year that's saving us from being completely done. The fact that we re a 10 seed in 3 major updated brackets tells me that we just need 1 win. Confidence can springboard u or bury u if u have none. We've lost our confidence and need to get it back Saturday.
I agree about confidence and that might be some of the problem. To me, this looks much more serious than that and that's what's so concerning. There is a serious problem in my opinion
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:18 pm to Cobrasize
Someone mentioned last night about effort. U don't out rebound a team by 15 if ur not giving great effort...But I think the lid on the basket was demoralizing though. I know u gotta play thru things but I would think that would mentally wear on u.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:21 pm to Bamainva40
In addition it's a sweeping generalization to say "none of them are playing hard". That's total bs ....Colin and hall play hard, Lawson last night. The issue is all of them playing hard every night.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:24 pm to Bamainva40
Ok. A couple of them played hard, but most of them aren't.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:28 pm to CrimsonTider98
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You're also missing the fact that Alabama is a much better job than Mississippi State.
State is not a terrible basketball job.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:30 pm to Bamainva40
I can see both sides of the Avery argument at this point.
1. He needs more time, after all, we are starting to get more talent. Also, even with the frustration of this year, the argument can be made that the program has improved.
2. He needs to be gone, after all, talent level has increased but we are still in the same end of the year slide. We are also worried about making the tourny with better talent. The constant has been the coach.
Obviously, I am not around the program, I also have no one that knows some one that knows someone. But what I saw last night was a team and a coach that looked mentally fatigued, defeated even. What or who is responsible for that? Could be selfish players, poor coaching, or just personality conflicts...among other possibilities.
If the AD believes Avery has the coaching ability to get the job done then he does deserve more time. However, if that confidence is not there then I hope the the move is made now regardless of the perception of it has only been 3 years.
Honestly, I hate to admit it, but I would be more confident we had a basketball program that was heading in the right direction if a change was made. Other than recruiting I have not seen anything that gives me confidence in Avery. (and I was very excited when he was hired and was hoping my son would get to see good Bama basketball like I saw growing up)
1. He needs more time, after all, we are starting to get more talent. Also, even with the frustration of this year, the argument can be made that the program has improved.
2. He needs to be gone, after all, talent level has increased but we are still in the same end of the year slide. We are also worried about making the tourny with better talent. The constant has been the coach.
Obviously, I am not around the program, I also have no one that knows some one that knows someone. But what I saw last night was a team and a coach that looked mentally fatigued, defeated even. What or who is responsible for that? Could be selfish players, poor coaching, or just personality conflicts...among other possibilities.
If the AD believes Avery has the coaching ability to get the job done then he does deserve more time. However, if that confidence is not there then I hope the the move is made now regardless of the perception of it has only been 3 years.
Honestly, I hate to admit it, but I would be more confident we had a basketball program that was heading in the right direction if a change was made. Other than recruiting I have not seen anything that gives me confidence in Avery. (and I was very excited when he was hired and was hoping my son would get to see good Bama basketball like I saw growing up)
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:35 pm to CrimsonTider98
Here’s my problem: If players are half assing it out there, you sit them down and tell them they don’t go back in until they can give 110%. If you don’t like that, there’s the door. Any coach worth his salt from tee ball on up knows this. If not, you’re not a coach, you’re a spectator.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:36 pm to Bama323_15
I've wrestled with the same stuff...It's hard to win with this many freshmen but we re a win probably from being in the dance and we ve shown we can play with anyone. I also see the other side and think that a better coach with this roster next yr or after would do great. Just a tough spot to be in.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:42 pm to Bamainva40
Ask yourself this: would Cuonzo Martin have this team in the tourney? I say yes. And I think he’s not a very good coach. But he took a Mizzou team that was absolutely terrible last year that won 4 SEC games I think and they are on the bubble or among the first four out conversation. And this is despite his freshman lottery pick superstar not playing 5 minutes this season. That’s where we are. Cuonzo could do more with this roster. SMH.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yes, but let's not pretend State is on even footing with Alabama in anything. A hell of a lot easier to recruit to T-town than Starkville.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:47 pm to phil4bama
It's silly comparing our team to Missouri. Could Cuonzo get a bunch of freshmen to play his shite style? I have no idea. If we had Kassius Robertson shooting threes for us, we'd be easily in.
There's no reason to reach for these comparisons when we can just watch what happens on the court, and clearly see Avery is doing a poor job this year.
There's no reason to reach for these comparisons when we can just watch what happens on the court, and clearly see Avery is doing a poor job this year.
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