re: Those of you who are calling for JHC's head....

yes Gurley is the best player on the team, but I said on D. JHC is definitely top 3 on D, and depending on your take of things, he could be said as the best player on D. For me atleast, he makes the most game changing plays.

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Or how about the players follow the damn rules?

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Or how about uga follow other teams drug policies instead of trying to have the strictest? Other teams in the SEC, this would be no biggie, especially a 3-4 game suspension. Only land owners used to be able to vote, but did that make it right? Same as with weed, you shouldnt test someones pee for it, its ethically wrong.

Also, what about recurits? You think they are going to like to hear this shite? You party at uga, you will likely get caught and suspended or punished way harder than any other competing SEC school. frick yea, Ole MIss is a great party school, sign me up......and my gf.

Yep, I could not ignore this post either.

First, let say that I respect your opinions and enjoy most of your posts. And while your observations/perspective might well be accurate, that does not make them correct in terms of what is best for our football program.

You might recall that I am a UGA alumnus, class of 1975. So yes, I am an old fart. I had no experience with drugs in HS because they were not available in our area during the 60's. However, I experienced almost anything and everything during my college years in the 70's. So I speak from experience when I say that drugs absolutely had a negative impact on my performance in college and life itself.

I am well aware of the trend towards legalization of marijuana but regardless the negative effects are well documented: LINK Like alcohol, some are more tolerant than others but no matter how you spin it, THC and just the smoke in your lungs from smoking pot have significant negative effects on your health and ability to perform optimally.

Having said this:

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I've said this before in the recruiting thread, but I'll say it again here. If we stop recruiting all the players who we think smoke pot, we will have a really bad team.

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Then all I can say is so be it. But the truth is none of us know for sure how pervasive the issue is among our players.

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I really think some people don't realize how pervasive this is in not only college but high school as well. This is a cultural thing among young people.

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Then the culture needs to change and if all learning institutions enforced both their academic standards and athletic rules then we might actually see a positive cultural transformation. Perpetuating a cultural which is arguably one of the root causes of the social demise of our nation is not doing these young men any favors.

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He let his teammates down, but he probably didn't see it that way.

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Then he is not looking at the situation realistically.

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I can pretty much guarantee you that he was smoking with other members of our team. I bet if you randomly drug tested all our scholarship players, over half of them would fail. Maybe well more than half.

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He might have been and everyone violating team rules and the law of the land should be suspended; I don't care how many it is. Scholarships should be revoked for repeat offenders.

I have said it many times but discipline is one of the fundamental aspects missing from Richt's teams. And again I'm not talking about the discipline of punishment after the incidents. I'm talking about instilling daily discipline which changes the culture of our program heading off incidents before they even happen. A truly disciplined individual wouldn't even be thinking about violating team rules rather their main focus would be academic and athletic achievement which is what it means to be a student athlete on scholarship.

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We would never win another game if we took this stance.

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Coach Richt and our admins are taking this stance which is why he is enforcing our team rules as well he should. Are you suggesting that we allow and thereby encourage our players to smoke pot?

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Are people really this ignorant?

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Are they?

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Get off your pedastool and put down your pitchforks.

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I'm not on a pedestal. As I cited, I have been there and done that. And I carry no pitchforks. I wish nothing but the best for all of our players including JHC but condoning pot smoking or any violation of team rules is NOT in their best interests or ours as a credible university.

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Coach Richt and our admins are taking this stance which is why he is enforcing our team rules as well he should. Are you suggesting that we allow and thereby encourage our players to smoke pot?

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I'm saying if we kicked every kid off our team that smokes pot (regularly) or (recreationally) our team would be FKED. Do you honestly think JHC and JSW are the only kids who toke? JSW was never popped he got busted. Ignorance is a powerful thing.

Also, who gives a shite? It's fking pot

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Ignorance is a powerful thing.

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Yes, it is. Here is a link to the UGA drug testing policy. Read it and enlighten yourself: LINK So either our testing policy is a complete farce or pot smoking by our players is not nearly as prevalent as you would have us believe. The truth of course is that you present no facts/evidence that supports your position.

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My point is that I disagree with those who say he should be kicked off the team in order to instill discipline. That is completely counterproductive, IMO. If you kick him off, it hurts the program's ability to compete as well as JHC's potential to come back from this mistake.

Instead, make him earn his way back. He'll have to sit out 3 games, and in the meantime, make him feel his mistake. Run him until the coaches puke, institute curfew, drug test him every week, whatever. If he earns his keep, then both the program and JHC will have come out better than if we just cut the cord.

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Agree completely. In other words, enforce the team rules which is what Coach Richt is doing.

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Agree completely. In other words, enforce the team rules which is what Coach Richt is doing.

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Yep. There are rules that he signed up to follow, but we don't need to give him more severe punishment because we think he's a POS, as some are saying.

Please present a discussion based out of some merit and of fact and not one based on your stance of a "legalize pot activist" It's frustrating to take you seriously seeing that the problem with your argument is that your premise is your opinion...nothing more..

This is a non discussion..JHC broke the rules as they stand now, he will sit his games and will adhere to policy when he returns or he will be dismissed..nothing more

Interestingly enough...based on your logic...You feel that JHC is not the problem... you, in fact, feel that UGA's policies are the problem...speaks volumes about your character...

and your little comment about "pot making him a better player"...at first I thought you were a troll, but now I must say you are quite obtuse...wow!

From a medical professional, THC slows your reflexes, decreases coordination, inhibits reaction times, it also can increase difficulty in problem solving. THC also increases your blood pressure by acting on various agonist receptors in smooth vesicles via an increase in (CO)Carbon Manoxide which is diffusion dependent and crosses the tissue blood barrier with ease...it causes a host of other side effects,,,and you know as well as I do that it does...we all have toked up a time or ten....

Did you attend UGA? If so, will they let me return my degrees?

Did you just try to justify his use of marijuana through an example of landowners- nothing to do with the issue. obvious attempt by you to advocate legalizing marijuana...and by all means if that is what is bothering you, march onward...but take this to correct arena and support it there....

"pee testing is ethically wrong", oh really!, I'm pretty sure it's a policy of institution and is ethical and legal, they have a right to protect their best interest...

Everyone likes to win, but let's not lower our standards to appease those that can't adapt or play by the rules...that's a steep slippery slope of no return..I feel like we have seen enough of that in our society...making exceptions for those that find it difficult to comply to the point that doing things the right way are now the exception

I'll say it again...what everyone else does has nothing to do with what you choose to do...too many apologists....

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From a medical professional, THC slows your reflexes, decreases coordination, inhibits reaction times, it also can increase difficulty in problem solving. THC also increases your blood pressure by acting on various agonist receptors in smooth vesicles via an increase in (CO)Carbon Manoxide which is diffusion dependent and crosses the tissue blood barrier with ease...it causes a host of other side effects,,,and you know as well as I do that it does...we all have toked up a time or ten....

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Thank you and not to mention the detrimental impact of ingesting any kind of smoke into the lungs. Come to think of it, maybe this explains some our confusion on defense last season and JHC's inability to slap down a pass that came right to him on that winning play for Auburn.

Well said, R&B. It's totally irrelevant that the offense was smoking dope. THC knew the rules, he ignored them and got busted for it. That was the first time. The glaring absence of #25 in last season's opener against Clemson ought be a fantastic reminder.

Apparently pot does trash your memory, because he was dumb/apathetic enough to get caught again. Even if the first offense totally caught him out of the blue, the fact that he'd been busted a second time points directly to IDGAS on his part.

I don't smoke. I've never smoked. I'm smart enough to know, however, that if I'm privileged enough to be chosen by the Bulldogs to pull that red & black jersey over my head so long as I follow the rules and as a result of my hard work, dedication and degree of good fortune, I'll be able to make a VERY comfortable living playing the game I love - then I stay the frick away from the "no no" list that comprises part of my end of the bargain I entered into with my team and my coaches.

I swear to God, it's just like Daniel Tosh says: "I wish they'd legalize pot if for no other reason than potheads would have NOTHING to talk about."