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re: OT: Phil Robertson Canned
Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:56 am to UGALife478
Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:56 am to UGALife478
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we are suppose to live by the ten commandments.
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:56 am to UGALife478
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Last time I check The United Stated is a free country
Does your definition of the United States being a free country include employers picking who works for them? Cause that is included in how I determine a free country.
This post was edited on 12/20/13 at 7:57 am
Posted on 12/20/13 at 8:03 am to DawgsLife
[quote]I simply said it is wrong for anyone to be fired for giving their opinion. Shows like this should ignore it and allow the free market to work. If peoiple are offended by what he said and stop watching, then the show will be off the air,
I agree but unfortunately we live in the United States of the offended. The U.S. has become a pussified version of its former self. A country where the minority now seems to rule. The gay community pushes their agenda at every turn and heaven help anyone who gets in their way. Political correctness has replaced common sense.
I agree but unfortunately we live in the United States of the offended. The U.S. has become a pussified version of its former self. A country where the minority now seems to rule. The gay community pushes their agenda at every turn and heaven help anyone who gets in their way. Political correctness has replaced common sense.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 8:10 am to DawgsLife
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You are correct...and sometimes I get carried away. I just don't like it when people try to control others speech. A&E would not have done anything had it not been for the LGBT community getting riled up. They want to control others speech. They want to force acceptance to their lifestyle. If they want acceptance, this is NOT the way to get it.
Yep, and if Robertson had hypothetically referred to Christianity as a fantasy there would have been zero fricks given by anyone included A&E and no action would have been taken by A&E. And of course if he had called Muhammad a war monger he would have been fired on the spot and received death threats from the Muslim community. Such is the world we live in.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 8:20 am to Dawg in Beaumont
What I find funny is how a lot of people are claiming its hate speech. Phil never said he hated anyone. He simply said he thought they were leading a sinful life. The person interviewing him asked him for examples of sin. He gave them his opinion. We live in a very sad world when you can't even voice your opinion when its asked of you without being labeled a hatemonger.
Also, A&E did nothing wrong either. It was a business decision, a bad one, but none the less one they had every right to make. Dropping your cash cow because he pissed off a bunch people that don't even contribute to their ratings seems a bit stupid (unless your sponsors and ad money started to pull out which is probably what they were scared of).
At the end of the day, Phil doesn't need the money and its probably working out pretty well for him as far as getting his message to the massess. He's been very open about using this platform to spread his christian beliefs. In one short interview, he has the entire country talking about it. He may not like the way its being spun by the media, but at least its out there.
Also, A&E did nothing wrong either. It was a business decision, a bad one, but none the less one they had every right to make. Dropping your cash cow because he pissed off a bunch people that don't even contribute to their ratings seems a bit stupid (unless your sponsors and ad money started to pull out which is probably what they were scared of).
At the end of the day, Phil doesn't need the money and its probably working out pretty well for him as far as getting his message to the massess. He's been very open about using this platform to spread his christian beliefs. In one short interview, he has the entire country talking about it. He may not like the way its being spun by the media, but at least its out there.
This post was edited on 12/20/13 at 8:29 am
Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:21 am to FooManChoo
I find it hilarious that people are upset that a privately owned company literally named ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT took action after some anti-gay remarks....
Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:33 am to HinesvilleThrill
Have you seen the interviews with the DD crew where they said they were told by the network to stop praying before meals and stop saying Christian religious references?
And when the DD crew refused, the network then physically edited out prayer scenes and any time a religious reference was made.
Look, I'm not even religious, but this is some double-standard Liberal as frick bullshite that's happening in the TV and media world in general and this is just another bullshite example of the disease known as Liberalism.
The dude was asked about his religious beliefs and gave his opinion and the Liberal network was offended because of the politics of it. Nothing else. So frick them.
And when the DD crew refused, the network then physically edited out prayer scenes and any time a religious reference was made.
Look, I'm not even religious, but this is some double-standard Liberal as frick bullshite that's happening in the TV and media world in general and this is just another bullshite example of the disease known as Liberalism.
The dude was asked about his religious beliefs and gave his opinion and the Liberal network was offended because of the politics of it. Nothing else. So frick them.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:49 am to HinesvilleThrill
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I find it hilarious that people are upset that a privately owned company literally named ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT took action after some anti-gay remarks....
I thought they stopped being Arts and Entertainment the second they started airing reality TV shows.
I honestly had no idea who Phil Robertson was before reading this thread. I thought it was a coach at some other school. All I knew about Duck Dynasty was that it was another show capitalizing on making fun of white trash, and now I see their crap everywhere from christmas cds to lunch boxes. They had a great run. I'm sure they'll all be happy now that they can go back to their normal lives.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:53 am to BeefDawg
You clearly missed my joke. My point is a company named ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT is most likely chock full of homos. But I digress....
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:07 am to UGALife478
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I think it is Bull shite.
Last time I check The United Stated is a free country and we are suppose to live by the 10 commandments.
We have the freedom of speech. Our new great leader ... is trying to make our country into a dictatorship and make every one do and believe everything they do.
frick our government and our leader. Stand up for our country and Phil Robertson.
Please let this guy be a troll.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:10 am to UGALife478
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we are suppose to live by the 10 commandments
frick you, go jackoff to your Michel Bachmann poster you loony frick
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:19 am to FooManChoo
He forgot to say "not that there's anything wrong with that."
Like he could have said "homosexuality is like adultery and bestiality, not that there's anything wrong with that."
Seinfeld got away with it.
Like he could have said "homosexuality is like adultery and bestiality, not that there's anything wrong with that."
Seinfeld got away with it.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:24 am to UGALife478
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we are suppose to live by the 10 commandments.
What's awesome about this country is that we actually aren't.
You want a theocracy then move to Iran.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:33 am to Cherokee Chinstrap
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we are suppose to live by the 10 commandments
frick you, go jackoff to your Michel Bachmann poster you loony frick
Yea, delusional Christian opinions not allowed. No wait.....
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:36 am to Damn Good Dawg
PR gave his commonly-held belief (by orthodox Christians) that homosexuality is a sin, just like a lot of things, and that he doesn't get what all the fuss is about with buttsex.
What I'm annoyed about is those who say "HE COMPARED IT TO BEASTIALITY!!!11!", as if they didn't read that he also compared sleeping around (heterosexual bootknocking) and being a drunkard to the same thing. He was just calling sin a sin, and he wasn't the first to do that (he was paraphrasing the Bible).
A lot of people (Non-Christians?) don't get that because an action is deemed immoral by the Biblical standard, that it doesn't mean that the perpetrator should be hated and despised. It's just the opposite. Every single person who has ever lived (save for one) is a sinner, so we all break the law of God somewhere. If PR was to "hate" gays, he would have to "hate" himself, his family, and everyone else in the world because everyone sins. He doesn't hate anyone, though (except maybe PETA)
A&E dug their grave and I hope the DD crew lowers the casket by switching networks.
What I'm annoyed about is those who say "HE COMPARED IT TO BEASTIALITY!!!11!", as if they didn't read that he also compared sleeping around (heterosexual bootknocking) and being a drunkard to the same thing. He was just calling sin a sin, and he wasn't the first to do that (he was paraphrasing the Bible).
A lot of people (Non-Christians?) don't get that because an action is deemed immoral by the Biblical standard, that it doesn't mean that the perpetrator should be hated and despised. It's just the opposite. Every single person who has ever lived (save for one) is a sinner, so we all break the law of God somewhere. If PR was to "hate" gays, he would have to "hate" himself, his family, and everyone else in the world because everyone sins. He doesn't hate anyone, though (except maybe PETA)
A&E dug their grave and I hope the DD crew lowers the casket by switching networks.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:51 am to FooManChoo
Yep, hate the sin but love the sinner. It's a little known and poorly understood concept outside the Christian community. 
Posted on 12/20/13 at 11:04 am to davesdawgs
I have no problem with Christianity.
However, I do have a problem with people trying to force their beliefs/hold others to their own personal belief standards. If he had said "I" choose to live by the Ten Commandments instead of "we" I would not have a problem whatsoever.
Just because I choose to believe something does not give me, or anyone else the right to hold others to that standard.
As far as Phil, the guy may be a lot of things but stupid is not one of them. He chose to express his opinion, knowing the shite storm that would ensue. He also knows that controversy leads to higher profits, Chickfila is all the evidence that you need.
As for A&E, they really didn't have much of a choice in the matter, as messed up as that is. They are a company whose mainn target audience is not nearly the same as the DD audience. It is just the world we live in, no matter how vehemently I disagree with it.
However, I do have a problem with people trying to force their beliefs/hold others to their own personal belief standards. If he had said "I" choose to live by the Ten Commandments instead of "we" I would not have a problem whatsoever.
Just because I choose to believe something does not give me, or anyone else the right to hold others to that standard.
As far as Phil, the guy may be a lot of things but stupid is not one of them. He chose to express his opinion, knowing the shite storm that would ensue. He also knows that controversy leads to higher profits, Chickfila is all the evidence that you need.
As for A&E, they really didn't have much of a choice in the matter, as messed up as that is. They are a company whose mainn target audience is not nearly the same as the DD audience. It is just the world we live in, no matter how vehemently I disagree with it.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 11:27 am to Cherokee Chinstrap
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I have no problem with Christianity.
However, I do have a problem with people trying to force their beliefs/hold others to their own personal belief standards. If he had said "I" choose to live by the Ten Commandments instead of "we" I would not have a problem whatsoever.
Just because I choose to believe something does not give me, or anyone else the right to hold others to that standard.
I fully appreciate your perspective. This is why evangelism is a huge turn-off for many non-Christians. However, being raised in a Christian family I understand that such people are sincere in wanting to help/save others by directing them towards Christianity. As such my tact is less harsh than yours in gently reminding them that their methods will likely not be effective in today's world. *translation: frick off*
Posted on 12/20/13 at 11:29 am to DawgsLife
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You are correct...and sometimes I get carried away. I just don't like it when people try to control others speech. A&E would not have done anything had it not been for the LGBT community getting riled up. They want to control others speech. They want to force acceptance to their lifestyle. If they want acceptance, this is NOT the way to get it.
Come on man. No one is trying to control another's speech. That's just hyperbole. Just stop. If I were to go on social media and start talking shite about my employer, should I get fired? Probably. Guess what. I can continue to talk shite about them after I'm fired. Same with Phil. He can continue to express his opinions to anyone who will listen. A&E can't control that. They're not the only outlet for his opinions. Don't be that guy who regurgitates the "party" line. Think for yourself man.
This post was edited on 12/20/13 at 11:38 am
Posted on 12/20/13 at 11:38 am to BoulderDawg34
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The pastor at White’s Ferry Road Church tells TMZ … while everyone went crazy last night over Phil’s suspension, Phil was in the pews with his prayer group, praying for a woman who had been diagnosed with cancer.
Pastor Mike Kellett tells us … Robertson didn’t even MENTION the TV show or the suspension
— it was all about the sick woman.
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