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re: I am concerned about Jacob Eason's arm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:16 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:16 am to Crowknowsbest
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For sure. Right now, I think a lot of UGA fans are freaked out after Saturday and are sometimes a little overzealous in looking for explanations, which is understandable.
Actually I was not freaked out about Saturday. Teams tend to take bad teams lightly. It has happened over the years, and seems to be happening more frequently this year. It was the North Carolina game that got me. I went back and looked at the wobbly pass and he seemed to throw it off the front foot......he seemed to do everything right on that pass....but sometimes the ball will roll off the side of the hand and come off wobbly like that. (It's hard to tell on the film)
That normally happens when a QB has smaller hands, which I would not think is Eason's problem. (Not at 6'5"!) Maybe it just began to roll a bit and he couldn't correct. Anyway, I am feeling better that his arm is probably ok and there is nothing wrong with it. That was my biggest concern. A tired or sore arm.
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Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:46 am to DawgsLife
Trust me... It's a back foot issue. It's technically a mechanics issue, but usually caused by a QB who has a lot going on in his head. Anyone who has coached QBs will tell you this...assuming his mechanics were correct... Which I am confident they are.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:46 am to DawgsLife
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hope you are right....and you very well could be.
I think you are right about those throws, and we saw it again early in the last game.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 9:16 am to Peter Buck
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Trust me... It's a back foot issue. It's technically a mechanics issue, but usually caused by a QB who has a lot going on in his head. Anyone who has coached QBs will tell you this...assuming his mechanics were correct... Which I am confident they are.
I hope you and the others are correct. I honestly never got into QB mechanics. I do understand throwing off the back foot, but other than that...not much. QBs, to me a re a strange lot in a lot of ways. I never bothered studying the mechanics of the QB. I know a decent amount about DL, OL, LB and RB. A lot about WR and DB and near zilch about QB.
I was just concerned about the under throws, which may have been me overreacting. I was happy that others shared my concerned, though.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 9:18 am to djsdawg
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I think you are right about those throws, and we saw it again early in the last game.
Thanks, DJS. Only time will tell if we truly have anything to be concerned about, or if it is only a mechanics issue, throwing off his back foot.
I know the vast majority of his yards passing have been on dump off passes on short routes, with an occasional pass over 20-30 yards. We should know more over the next several weeks. I just want to make sure he is 100% healthy. If he is, I think the rest will come to him.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 9:32 am to DawgsLife
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I know the vast majority of his yards passing have been on dump off passes on short routes
His YPA says you are wrong. It is the highest in the conference.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:51 am to deeprig9
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YPA says you are wrong. It is the highest in the conference.
He has a point. Just go back and watch the unc game. 3 of his 4 longest passes were behind the Los.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:02 am to deeprig9
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I know the vast majority of his yards passing have been on dump off passes on short routes
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His YPA says you are wrong. It is the highest in the conference.
You know that yards after the catch is factored into YPA, right? He got big yards on the McKenzie pass at NC. More big yards with the McKenzie shuffle pass and more big yards from the Godwin short pass.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:10 am to DawgsLife
That is true. However, if the pass play gained 60 yards, it's a good play regardless of how long the ball is in the air. The QB still made a good decision to get it to the right player. So I think it's still a valid statistic.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:28 am to Broncothor
53 of easons yards vs unc were behind the Los, and that is a significant amount of his total. Unsure of the number vs nicholls.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:40 am to djsdawg
All of the other sec qb's also have dump offs and screens.
Eason is #1 in ypa.
Eason is #1 in ypa.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:48 am to deeprig9
I really doubt all others have had those kind of plays quite like Eason.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 11:50 am
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:02 pm to djsdawg
I really doubt you are a smart person.
Are you majoring in Forestry or Journalism?
Are you majoring in Forestry or Journalism?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 12:11 pm to deeprig9
Rocket science is my major, but why does it bother you so much that easons stats are inflated moreso than others due to his short "passes" that have produced well? How he gets credit for that iMac td vs unc is kind of silly.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:27 pm to Broncothor
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hat is true. However, if the pass play gained 60 yards, it's a good play regardless of how long the ball is in the air. The QB still made a good decision to get it to the right player. So I think it's still a valid statistic.
It is a valid statistic. I was just making the point that most of Eason's yards are not coming from long passes, but short ones that our receivers are breaking.
Someone else was saying I was wrong because Eason's YPA was big.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:30 pm to deeprig9
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All of the other sec qb's also have dump offs and screens.
Eason is #1 in ypa.
True. But the point was that he is not throwing long passes, they are short passes. He is not getting his yards from bombs. We were discussing his arm strength.
He is running the plays is being given. Of the passes he has thrown, three of his deep passes have either been under thrown or wobbly and out of bounds. Most of his yards are coming from short passes.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:32 pm to djsdawg
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How he gets credit for that iMac td vs unc is kind of silly.
Considering it was almost a hand off. However, we all think he will be a great QB. He is running the plays that are called. It's almost as bad that a tipped pass is considered intercepted, as well.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:48 pm to DawgsLife
I'd be surprised if Eason was getting most of his yards from long bombs. The goal is to move the ball down the field and there are many ways to do that.
Eason can throw those bombs, which opens up the playbook for him. He doesn't have to do it every play, just a few times a game, and that will keep the safeties honest and help prevent them from loading the box. The problem with Lambert is that everyone knows he isn't going to throw it deep, so loading the box can be done every play. Eason throwing deep can only help improve our run game as well as help our 2-minute offense (once he gets trusted with the keys); we need the ability to have explosive plays.
Eason can throw those bombs, which opens up the playbook for him. He doesn't have to do it every play, just a few times a game, and that will keep the safeties honest and help prevent them from loading the box. The problem with Lambert is that everyone knows he isn't going to throw it deep, so loading the box can be done every play. Eason throwing deep can only help improve our run game as well as help our 2-minute offense (once he gets trusted with the keys); we need the ability to have explosive plays.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 5:31 pm to FooManChoo
I feel like he threw a bomb at least once a drive to keep them honest.
Problem was PI's and dropped balls.
Problem was PI's and dropped balls.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 6:51 am to DawgsLife
My two cents... You throw to where the receivers are or to their potential. We haven't been getting separation down field and QBs are trained to look for that. You have a split second to scan the field to see if receivers are open or going to be open when you release. If not, you go to the screen. Outside, inside/over the top, screen... Speed, timing, touch, and leverage are key.
This is why you see the bump and runs. To throw off the opponents defensive player and create separation. Coaches create separation by plays and teaching different techniques to receivers and teaching QBs to look for weakness, separation, leverage, etc.
This is why you see the bump and runs. To throw off the opponents defensive player and create separation. Coaches create separation by plays and teaching different techniques to receivers and teaching QBs to look for weakness, separation, leverage, etc.
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