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Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:55 pm to DawgsLife
Remember, Murray was a bit of a heart attack generator his first two seasons. He didn't really become "Aaron Murray - Dawg Legend" until 2012-13.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:57 pm to DawgsLife
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I am concerned about Jacob Eason's arm
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Before anybody points out the 50 yard "bomb" to McKenzie against NC, take another look. It was thrown 30 yards down field and McKenzie ran another 20 or so yards.
why don't you take another look? Released on our 26 and caught at their 32.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 2:19 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 9/13/16 at 2:35 pm to DawgCountry
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I'll give him more than 2 games before I start doubting his abilities, but that's just me
This board is starting to smell like a TN board where they have knee jerk reactions to everything. Eason was the #1 rated pocket passer in his class. Meaning that he had been evaluated for his entire HS career by experts, and put at the forefront of every HS pocket QB in the entire freaking US of A. So one start into his college career and you're going to throw all of that expert opinion out the window based on a few throws that you think we're inaccurate?!?! Maybe we need for you to evaluate our QBs from now on because you seem to know more than all of the experts who looked at and coached Eason throughout his career and recruitment process.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 2:55 pm to Cobb Dawg
His abilities aren't based on one game, even though I thought he looked mostly good in it. It's how he progresses from game to game or from the beginning of the season to the end.
He's shown that he can make good throws. He just needs to focus on the little things that make a field general a field general.
He's shown that he can make good throws. He just needs to focus on the little things that make a field general a field general.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 3:36 pm to FooManChoo
He has great arm strength and a nice release. He is throwing off his back foot at times, I assume,e because he is feeling the pressure or he is uncertain or there is a lot going on in his head to the point that it hurts his mechanics. I think me also may be taking some off the shorter passes try to get some touch on them. He has a lot of tools to be really good.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:28 pm to Baxter
Lambert can throw the ball 30 yards. Even a good strong throw of 30 yards is average at best for a major college football player.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:30 pm to VoxDawg
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Remember, Murray was a bit of a heart attack generator his first two seasons. He didn't really become "Aaron Murray - Dawg Legend" until 2012-13.
And that's a good point. He is still maturing and getting stronger.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:37 pm to WG_Dawg
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why don't you take another look? Released on our 26 and caught at their 32.
I was going from line of scrimmage. that's typically how a pass is measured. The LOS was at the 33 and McKenzie caught it at their 33. 34 yards. Hey....you guys may be right. But that is the only semi-long pass that he has connected on. I am not arguing that his arm is not strong....just that I am a little concerned.
Look at the throws with an open mind, then let me know what you see. Don't go by what the announcers say, or what other fans say or even the experts. Just by what you see.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:40 pm to DawgsLife
Well, we've seen like 6 downfield passes, none of which set off any red flags for me. Therefore, I'm going to defer to the countless college coaches, scouts, and analysts that have basically unanimously concluded that arm strength isn't an issue.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:43 pm to Cobb Dawg
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This board is starting to smell like a TN board where they have knee jerk reactions to everything. Eason was the #1 rated pocket passer in his class. Meaning that he had been evaluated for his entire HS career by experts, and put at the forefront of every HS pocket QB in the entire freaking US of A. So one start into his college career and you're going to throw all of that expert opinion out the window based on a few throws that you think we're inaccurate?!?! Maybe we need for you to evaluate our QBs from now on because you seem to know more than all of the experts who looked at and coached Eason throughout his career and recruitment process.
Dude. I didn't come on here with a knee jerk reaction saying he doesn't have the arm. I said I was concerned....that's all. And I didn't do it base on one game, and I am not making my mind up based on two games. Just that I find it concerning. I knew I shouldn't have said anything, because some of you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of....jumping to conclusions and making knee jerk remarks.
How many times have the "experts" been wrong? Plenty. Just because a so called expert proclaims something doesn't mean it is so.
AGAIN....I am not saying he doesn't have the arm. All I am saying is look at the throws honestly. if you see a strong arm, then you are not being honest.
However, I am willing to accept that it could be nerves...or throwing off his back foot....or anything else you might come up with. But if you all say that is the problem, then you are seeing what i am saying. That his throws are not as strong as we anticipated....otherwise there would be nothing to say about them.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:45 pm to DawgsLife
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How many times have the "experts" been wrong? Plenty. Just because a so called expert proclaims something doesn't mean it is s
Arm strength isn't usually something they're wrong about. As others have said, it's fairly objective.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:47 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Well, we've seen like 6 downfield passes, none of which set off any red flags for me. Therefore, I'm going to defer to the countless college coaches, scouts, and analysts that have basically unanimously concluded that arm strength isn't an issue.
And you, and they, might be right. I hope so. I'm surprised that out of three deep throws (Two of which were underthrown) that that does not throw a red flag to you. Take Eason off the back of the jersey and put Lambert on it and everyone would be saying he doesn't have the arm.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:49 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Arm strength isn't usually something they're wrong about. As others have said, it's fairly objective.
True. That's why I agreed with Whiznot when he said he feared he might have injured his arm lifting weights. That was what was in the back of my mind, more so than him not having a strong arm. I was hoping he was completely healthy. being so early in the season, it also occurs to me that he might be suffering for a dead arm from throwing so may reps in practice. there a re a lot of explanations beside him not having a strong arm.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:50 pm to DawgsLife
That might be true if he'd made a single throw yet where it looked like he was laboring to get it out there. His underthrows haven't come on throws when he's really tried to gun it out there. I haven't seen him really step into one yet.
Lambert does have the necessary arm talent by the way. He just plays scared.
Lambert does have the necessary arm talent by the way. He just plays scared.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:54 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I haven't seen him really step into one yet.
That's actually been the only "concerning" thing I've seen from him yet. The not having 100% grasp of the offense is understandable: True Freshman, splitting reps, etc.
Becoming somewhat reliant on sheer arm strength to make throws happen and not really getting set is not a good habit to start forming now, no matter how good the arm is. But it's a limited sample size and I'm sure the coaches are talking to him about putting himself in position to make better and easier throws.
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Lambert does have the necessary arm talent by the way. He just plays scared.
That might be the single most baffling piece about him. If we hadn't all seen him rifle a perfect pass in the UT game to Reggie, we might all just be able to say he doesn't have it, but dammit if that wasn't a rope that just got dropped. He is *very* hesitant. Short arms a lot trying to ensure it doesn't get picked off, in the process is behind or below the intended receiver with little to no chance to catch and if they do, there's even less of a chance for YAC.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:56 pm to Crowknowsbest
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That might be true if he'd made a single throw yet where it looked like he was laboring to get it out there. His underthrows haven't come on throws when he's really tried to gun it out there.
I would think the two passes he got PI calls on against NC would be some he would try to lay out there. In both cases the receivers had a step or two on the defenders.
I can chalk those up to nerves....or throwing off his back foot. That could be the problem A mechanics deal. I didn't come on here trying to start an argument. I was just trying to see if anybody else felt the same as I did. Most do not. That's fine. Like I said....not trying to start trouble or an argument. You guys are probably right.
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Lambert does have the necessary arm talent by the way. He just plays scared.
Something we both agree on 100%. His biggest problem is he plays scared. I'm not sure if it's because the coaches tell him to protect the ball at all costs, or what the problem is....but put a little pressure on him and he panics.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:00 pm to DawgsLife
This is on DawgNation today from the Elite 11 QB coach.
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“I think Jacob Eason has as strong an arm as any kid I’ve ever seen at the high school level,” Avery said. “You will see that translate very well to his college game with a vertical passing attack. You go to see him show that off with his first showing at the University of Georgia.”
Avery stated Eason’s arm already compares to all the top college guys. More velocity. More energy. For example, he places Eason’s arm strength higher than Notre Dame star DeShone Kizer. He felt when Kizer comes out for the draft that NFL scouts will say he wields a “big arm,” but he felt Eason’s arm was already stronger than that.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:03 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Arm strength isn't usually something they're wrong about. As others have said, it's fairly objective.
I never thought I would see Eason throw wobbly bombs. We all know that Eason had a strong arm but arm strength isn't a constant over time. The under thrown deep balls are a mystery. There are a lot of variables other than arm strength that could affect velocity. I think back to that day in practice when Eason had his shoulder massaged after a number of poor deep balls.
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