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re: I am concerned about Jacob Eason's arm
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:08 pm to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:08 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:09 pm to Whiznot
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The under thrown deep balls are a mystery.
I agree. now...to everybody elses ideas.....in all honesty I was most concerned about the underthrown balls. However, I didn't check to see how far he DID throw them. It could be the receivers had more time than anticipated and just outran anybodys arm. I don't have time to go back and see how far he threw those balls tonight. maybe I can tomorrow. Could be under threw the receivers, but still threw the ball 60 yards.
I actually should have checked that before starting the thread.
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I think back to that day in practice when Eason had his shoulder massaged after a number of poor deep balls.
I had forgotten about that, but maybe he does still have a dead arm, or maybe a pinched nerve?
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:11 pm to FooManChoo
It was thrown high, but the LOS was our own 45 and he threw it to our 5 yard line, so that's a pretty good toss! 50 yards is decent....and he was very accurate. Might be why Davis dropped it. Scared him half to death!
50 yards is decent....and he was very accurate. Might be why Davis dropped it. Scared him half to death! 
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:12 pm to FooManChoo
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Very lofty.
It's got more arc than maybe a Stafford pass, but he delivered it right where it needed to be and he really doesn't even seem to step into it that much. No one's going to confuse him for a first round talent, but if you can make that throw, you'd expect he might take a few more shots. He just doesn't want to pull the trigger or something?
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:16 pm to fibonaccisquared
I am okay with the decision to start Lambert on Saturday. Let's go back to game 1 gameplan and take care of business on the road at night in SEC play!!!
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:16 pm to fibonaccisquared
Not sure. Maybe he can only pull the trigger on an open receiver on a go route? Maybe he just doesn't trust anything over 20 yards and feels like he's heaving it up there for grabs.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:20 pm to IT_Dawg
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Let's go back to game 1 gameplan !!!
Tape is out. Not gonna cut it imo.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:03 pm to DawgsLife
There are a bunch of evaluations of Jacob's arm strength and other aspects of his game on the web...just search. He attended tons of camps including all the elite camps. I have yet to see any of the comments from those questioning his arm. They almost always talk about his ability to throw the ball a mile.
I'm not sure what people aren't getting about the fact that no matter what raw talent he has, this is a true freshman. Murray talked about how it was really good for him to have had a redshirt year and he predicted it would be challeging for Eason to jump right into the SEC. Look what Stafford was like for awhile...and he wound up being the first pick of the draft by the time all was said and done.
A redshirt would have been great for Eason but he's just going to have to learn on the go. No choice since clearly Lambert hit his ceiling long ago.
I'm not sure what people aren't getting about the fact that no matter what raw talent he has, this is a true freshman. Murray talked about how it was really good for him to have had a redshirt year and he predicted it would be challeging for Eason to jump right into the SEC. Look what Stafford was like for awhile...and he wound up being the first pick of the draft by the time all was said and done.
A redshirt would have been great for Eason but he's just going to have to learn on the go. No choice since clearly Lambert hit his ceiling long ago.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:08 pm to DawgsLife
DL, of all the shite I've ever disagreed or agreed with you on, I always thought you had football knowledge. Surely you don't think that Eason lacks arm strength. He may or may not have the IQ of a sugar cube, but the dude has a canon for an arm.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:10 pm to Lucius Clay
The bottom line is that if our offensive line blocked well and guys caught easy passes, Eason throws for 70%, 300+ yards, and with 3-4 TDs against Nicholls.
He's a true freshman, and will make mistakes, but he's come a lot farther than people think.
Excited to see him play against Missouri.
He's a true freshman, and will make mistakes, but he's come a lot farther than people think.
Excited to see him play against Missouri.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:33 pm to grey
Pretty sure Eason leads the SEC QB's on QB rating...not sure what the frick more you can ask, from a tFR QB in through 2 weeks....
Not like our line is worth a shite right now...Chubb barely touched the ball before being hit or seeing 2 guys in front of him.
I'm okay with some underthrown balls that resulted in positive yards for the dawgs
Not like our line is worth a shite right now...Chubb barely touched the ball before being hit or seeing 2 guys in front of him.
I'm okay with some underthrown balls that resulted in positive yards for the dawgs
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:41 pm to Lucius Clay
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Look what Stafford was like for awhile...and he wound up being the first pick of the draft by the time all was said and done.
Pretty good comp for Eason, although I think Stafford was even more raw coming out of high school even though he played in the DFW area, which is beyond loaded with HS talent in comparison to the Seattle area. Stafford had a cannon and knew it, and got away with throwing off of his back foot in his younger days.
Stafford has the strongest arm in the NFL right now, IMO.
ETA: Can't find it right now, but I saw where a scout compared Eason's arm to Drew Bledsoe's. Bledsoe had one of the strongest arms in NFL history.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 7:05 am to Lucius Clay
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There are a bunch of evaluations of Jacob's arm strength and other aspects of his game on the web...just search. He attended tons of camps including all the elite camps. I have yet to see any of the comments from those questioning his arm. They almost always talk about his ability to throw the ball a mile.
I understand that. But is that what we are seeing now? he is under throwing the ball. Hardly throwing it a mile.
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I'm not sure what people aren't getting about the fact that no matter what raw talent he has, this is a true freshman.
We all get that. And that should affect reads, check downs, etc. Not arm strength. Well, his arm may grow stronger as he gets older, but his ability to "throw the ball a mile" would not diminish because he is a freshman.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 7:09 am to Cobb Dawg
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DL, of all the shite I've ever disagreed or agreed with you on, I always thought you had football knowledge. Surely you don't think that Eason lacks arm strength.
I appreciate your thinking I have football knowledge. And, by the way...I never have a problem with people disagreeing with me. I have no delusions that I am right all the time. I've been wrong before, and I could be wrong about this.
I am not saying he does not have arm strength. As has been pointed out, it has been told over and over again by the experts that it is there. I guess I should have just come out and said it.
I am afraid his arm hurts, or something is going on that is not allowing him to throw the ball as deeply as he is capable. Over training? Sore arm? Pinched nerve? Something. I am just saying that I am not seeing the canon that we've been told we would see, and wonder if something is going on....that's all.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 7:42 am
Posted on 9/14/16 at 7:12 am to IT_Dawg
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I'm okay with some underthrown balls that resulted in positive yards for the dawgs
How would you have felt if they had been intercepted? Underthrown balls get intercepted more often than not. If the DBs had turned their heads, they would have had easy INTS. When I was playing, our DBs were always taught to turn and run with the Receiver, but when the receiver turns his head to look for the ball you turn your head and look for the ball. Seems to be a lost art, now.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 7:40 am to DawgsLife
I went back to the North Carolina game. here is what I found....
First deep throw that came out wobbly was thrown from the UGA 44 yard line and went out of bounds at the UNC 30 for 26 yards
Second deep throw that was under thrown was thrown from the UGA 39 yard line and went to the UNC 28 yard line for 33 yards
Third deep throw of that game that was under thrown was thrown from the NC 43 and went to the UNC 10 yard line for 33 yards
Go back and check them out if you don't believe me. I was counting from the Line of Scrimmage.
Look.....I know you guys don't want to think something is up, but it is what it is. maybe he underthrew on purpose trying to draw PI? It's possible, but the receivers had a step on the DB and had he led them we would have had a great gain. I hate to bring this subject up as much as y'all hate to see it. Nobody wants to think something might be wrong.
Don't kill the messenger. Go watch the throws and then if you disagree, that's ok. but stop taking what scouts said and watch with an open mind. AGAIN...I am not saying he doesn't have the arm. I am only saying that I am hoping nothing is wrong with his arm.
First deep throw that came out wobbly was thrown from the UGA 44 yard line and went out of bounds at the UNC 30 for 26 yards
Second deep throw that was under thrown was thrown from the UGA 39 yard line and went to the UNC 28 yard line for 33 yards
Third deep throw of that game that was under thrown was thrown from the NC 43 and went to the UNC 10 yard line for 33 yards
Go back and check them out if you don't believe me. I was counting from the Line of Scrimmage.
Look.....I know you guys don't want to think something is up, but it is what it is. maybe he underthrew on purpose trying to draw PI? It's possible, but the receivers had a step on the DB and had he led them we would have had a great gain. I hate to bring this subject up as much as y'all hate to see it. Nobody wants to think something might be wrong.
Don't kill the messenger. Go watch the throws and then if you disagree, that's ok. but stop taking what scouts said and watch with an open mind. AGAIN...I am not saying he doesn't have the arm. I am only saying that I am hoping nothing is wrong with his arm.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 7:51 am to DawgsLife
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Go watch the throws and then if you disagree, that's ok. but stop taking what scouts said and watch with an open mind. AGAIN...I am not saying he doesn't have the arm. I am only saying that I am hoping nothing is wrong with his arm.
OK, I did.
First, neither receiver had anything close to a step.
Now to the throws. First one he definitely floated. Might have been intentionally under thrown. You see that a lot vs. tight man coverage now. DB can't see it to react, WR can. I don't know if Eason did that or not.
Second throw was clearly off his back foot.
In both cases, I think he's likely just trying to give his guy a chance to make a play or get PI on 3rd and long. The throw was actually in the right spot on both, imo. The WR didn't beat the CB on either, so put the ball up in the air short and in-bounds and see what happens.
ETA: I only watched the two PI ones.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 7:54 am
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:04 am to Crowknowsbest
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First, neither receiver had anything close to a step.
I checked again on the second throw and you are correct....I was wrong. I was concentrating more on the yard lines.
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In both cases, I think he's likely just trying to give his guy a chance to make a play or get PI on 3rd and long. The throw was actually in the right spot on both, imo. The WR didn't beat the CB on either, so put the ball up in the air short and in-bounds and see what happens.
I hope you are right....and you very well could be.
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ETA: I only watched the two PI ones.
Those were the main ones I was concerned about, so that's all that needed to be dissected. thanks for your patience. I know I have been arguing and thta can be tiring for people....but I CAN be convinced when I am wrong.
Unfortunately, we can't get inside his head and know for certain what he was doing. The second throw was off his back foot, though, and, hopefully will be corrected.
Thanks again, Crow.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:11 am to DawgsLife
For sure. Right now, I think a lot of UGA fans are freaked out after Saturday and are sometimes a little overzealous in looking for explanations, which is understandable.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 8:12 am
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:14 am to Lucius Clay
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I have yet to see any of the comments from those questioning his arm
That's because the armchair QBs on here just know that his arm isn't strong enough.
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