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re: Eason will start vs Vandy?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:19 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:19 pm to deeprig9
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“Right now, I believe Fromm is the guy,” Mason said Tuesday at his weekly press conference. “I believe Eason is an extremely talented quarterback. That’s up to Kirby who he decides to go with. I mean he’s not fooling me, if that’s what we’re doing here. That young man, Fromm’s won ballgames. He just came off a (41-0) win.”
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:24 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:That's my thought, as well. I think it's unwise to change what's working but hopefully we'll be able to pound Vandy into the ground and it won't matter so much.
I hope we're up by 30 at half and let Eason in the rest of the game so he get enough snaps to settle this whole thing ... at least for the time being.
While I'm definitely on the Fromm train and hope he is our starter going forward, what's most important is that we have the best option to win playing for us, whether that is Fromm or Eason shouldn't matter. We should have consistency back there, though.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:26 pm to Dawg4Life47
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Fromm has proved more in 4 starts than Eason did all of last year.
what exactly has he proven? The defense and special teams Fromm has behind him is like 2 completely differnet teams from what eason had, hell they're practically not even playing the same sport. Give Eason the same luxuries Fromm has had and who knows how good our offense can be. Eason is more experienced, has seen more SEC defenses, and won the job outright in the fall.
Fromm has thrown more than 15 passes ONCE this year, once! And perhaps not coincidentally, that game he also posted his lowest completion % and lowest QBR in any game this year. Fromm has been outstanding so far in the limited role we've asked him to perform. But the fact is we really don't know what he's capable of really. Eason has played and beat better teams than Fromm has seen.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:28 pm to WG_Dawg
He has put us in better positions to keep the ball, less turnovers.
His command of the team from a leadership can be seen on the field.
I am sick and tired of seeing Eason's 3 step drop and then roll out to the right and throw it away or some lame duck arse pass that is fired at 100 mph off someones hands.
His command of the team from a leadership can be seen on the field.
I am sick and tired of seeing Eason's 3 step drop and then roll out to the right and throw it away or some lame duck arse pass that is fired at 100 mph off someones hands.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:30 pm to WG_Dawg
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Eason has played and beat better teams than Fromm has seen.
Which teams are those that have been better than Notre Dame or even this lowly Tenn team?
Also, Eason shows no command of the offense at any point that he has played.
I cringe every time he drops back.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:33 pm to Dawg4Life47
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He has put us in better positions to keep the ball, less turnovers.
Eh..Fromm should have had 2 balls picked on Saturday but fortuantely UT is awful.
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His command of the team from a leadership can be seen on the field.
This is objective. The team is behind him because he's the QB, it also helps we're blowing people out.
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I am sick and tired of seeing Eason's 3 step drop and then roll out to the right and throw it away
you haven't seen sophomore jacob eason. I don't count the 3 passes in the opener (before our coaches decided to spread it out btw, which fromm was the recipient of) and some token late game drive saturday. We haven't seen sophomore eason with the keys to the offense yet.
I'm not even really advocating for him to start btw, I really like fromm. How could anyone not? I just think people dumping on eason are incredibly short sighted.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:35 pm to Dawg4Life47
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Which teams are those that have been better than Notre Dame or even this lowly Tenn team?
I would wager that 2016 UNC, Auburn, and TCU are better than 2017 notre dame. Potentially even kentucky.
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Eason shows no command of the offense at any point that he has played.
that's simply not true, go back and watch the 2nd half of last season. He played some very fine ballgames.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:53 pm to WG_Dawg
You go back and watch this season and I can even poll the rant and they will say the same thing.
Fromm beat Notre Dame a top 15 team, Miss st. and shut out Tenn at their house.
Eason had two games where we won by double digits.
Also, Auburn was 8-5 last year, not really burning shite down.
Fromm beat Notre Dame a top 15 team, Miss st. and shut out Tenn at their house.
Eason had two games where we won by double digits.
Also, Auburn was 8-5 last year, not really burning shite down.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:54 pm to WG_Dawg
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I just think people dumping on eason are incredibly short sighted.
No one wants him to transfer. The argument is over who starts.
Eason is a back up right now, not the starter. He doesn't deserve to start yet.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:58 pm to Dawg4Life47
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You go back and watch this season and I can even poll the rant and they will say the same thing.
I dont' care what a rant poll says, I watched with my own eyes and could see his grasp of the offense later in the year as he matured.
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Fromm beat Notre Dame a top 15 team, Miss st. and shut out Tenn at their house.
Jake Fromm hasn't shut out anybody. Our defense is responsible for all 3 of those victories you mentioned. I mean really man...against MSU and UT we combined to give up 3 points and you're pretending Fromm just carried us to victory. And against ND Fromm threw for 55% with 1 TD and 1 INT and posted his lowest QBR of the season.
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Eason had two games where we won by double digits.
At this point I think you are intentionally just ignoring the role defense plays in this comparison. Cory Phillips could have been our QB all season and we'd still be absolutely no worse than 4-1. Eason had to basically get in a shootout every game the first half of his freshman season.
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Also, Auburn was 8-5 last year, not really burning shite down.
they were a top 10 team before their QB and RB got gimpy
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:16 pm to WG_Dawg
but fromm is 5-0!!!!!
i was in a spirited discussion with some tennessee fans in line to get into neyland on saturday. they were obviously delusional ("we are better than notre dame"), but said that fromm was fricked because he hadn't played in this type of environment before, true freshman, etc...
i responded that it was a fair point but completely meaningless since he wouldnt even need to throw a pass to beat them. and i was right.
fromm has been just fine. love that he's on our team and he has played well. but he hasn't had to do jack shite to win any of these games. that's a great thing btw because it means we are fricking good. whoever plays QB the next 2 weeks wont have to do a damn thing to win. I could play QB starting now and we'd be 7-0 heading to jacksonville.
at some point, dunno when, maybe florida, maybe auburn, maybe tech, maybe not until bama; our QB is gonna have to do SOMETHING. i think eason is more capable of being able to do something.
i was in a spirited discussion with some tennessee fans in line to get into neyland on saturday. they were obviously delusional ("we are better than notre dame"), but said that fromm was fricked because he hadn't played in this type of environment before, true freshman, etc...
i responded that it was a fair point but completely meaningless since he wouldnt even need to throw a pass to beat them. and i was right.
fromm has been just fine. love that he's on our team and he has played well. but he hasn't had to do jack shite to win any of these games. that's a great thing btw because it means we are fricking good. whoever plays QB the next 2 weeks wont have to do a damn thing to win. I could play QB starting now and we'd be 7-0 heading to jacksonville.
at some point, dunno when, maybe florida, maybe auburn, maybe tech, maybe not until bama; our QB is gonna have to do SOMETHING. i think eason is more capable of being able to do something.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:22 pm to deeprig9
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Controversy over at the half.
lol
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:38 pm to Dawg4Life47
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You go back and watch this season and I can even poll the rant and they will say the same thing.
You were better off not saying this.
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Eason had two games where we won by double digits.
Had nothing to do with the rest of the team. Everybody was saying last years team was the worst Georgia team they had seen in 20 years, They are now saying this is the best Georgia team they have ever seen.
Nobody is dumping on Fromm. I think everybody is thrilled we have Fromm and very happy. We just don't know what we have with Eason.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:40 pm to Dawg4Life47
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Eason is a back up right now, not the starter. He doesn't deserve to start yet.
He was the starter before he got hurt. Did that mean Fromm did not deserve to start. You are making wild statements. If you are honest, you, nor anybody else on this board knows how good, or bad Eason is this year.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:54 pm to DawgsLife
Fromm is 100% a gamer. The kid likes to win...has more poise and confidence then Eason.....
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Eason has a very high ceiling and basing his performance of that first game and the few passes he threw is wrong.
Give the kid a shot. Fromm looked like a Freshman against UT. I think Eason should get some reps for sure.
But imo I trust Smart. Eason wont he job in the pre season and if he starts, it will be because he is the better option at QB. I mean, if Smart can't make that call, then he can't be a head coach. We have to lean on him in this one, we aren't there and don't know shite.
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Eason has a very high ceiling and basing his performance of that first game and the few passes he threw is wrong.
Give the kid a shot. Fromm looked like a Freshman against UT. I think Eason should get some reps for sure.
But imo I trust Smart. Eason wont he job in the pre season and if he starts, it will be because he is the better option at QB. I mean, if Smart can't make that call, then he can't be a head coach. We have to lean on him in this one, we aren't there and don't know shite.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:00 pm to Sandwich
While I can't write Eason off, I haven't been wow'd by him. Yes, yes, he hasn't had but a few throws this season, but he did not look good in those few throws.
It's like Ramsey: he only had a few series' of work but he looked absolutely terrible when he was in the game. Is he as bad as he looked there? Of course not, but he did not take advantage of the snaps he got to get himself more snaps.
That's how I feel about Eason at this point. Fromm has taken advantage of his time behind center to prove he should get more time behind center. When Eason has been in the game, he has not made the most of his playing time. Some players only get a few plays to prove they deserve to be out there. Fromm lit it up as soon as he got into his first game and showed he deserved more snaps. Eason should be doing that with every chance he gets and he hasn't done that this season.
With that said, Eason's performance last season showed that he deserves a shot to show his improvement over a longer period of time, but it's concerning to me that he didn't ball out with the few attempts he has been given so far.
It's like Ramsey: he only had a few series' of work but he looked absolutely terrible when he was in the game. Is he as bad as he looked there? Of course not, but he did not take advantage of the snaps he got to get himself more snaps.
That's how I feel about Eason at this point. Fromm has taken advantage of his time behind center to prove he should get more time behind center. When Eason has been in the game, he has not made the most of his playing time. Some players only get a few plays to prove they deserve to be out there. Fromm lit it up as soon as he got into his first game and showed he deserved more snaps. Eason should be doing that with every chance he gets and he hasn't done that this season.
With that said, Eason's performance last season showed that he deserves a shot to show his improvement over a longer period of time, but it's concerning to me that he didn't ball out with the few attempts he has been given so far.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:23 pm to FooManChoo
I can't discount Eason cause of an injury. If he can't handle the competition coming his way than it's a no brainer for the coaches.
Put the perspective of Fromm on last years team of OL, Jim Chaney, defense, special teams, etc. and see how he performs along with season win total.
Put the perspective of Fromm on last years team of OL, Jim Chaney, defense, special teams, etc. and see how he performs along with season win total.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:30 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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why not both?
Why not zoidberg
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:37 pm to FinleyStreet
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Why not zoidberg
Makes too much sense.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:29 pm to Dawg4Life47
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He has put us in better positions to keep the ball, less turnovers.
Eason had like 16TDs vs 8 ints. Not too bad for a true freshman
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