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re: Eason will start vs Vandy?

Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:42 pm to
16-8 is 2-1

Fromm is 4-1 on that ratio, fyi.

Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21579 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:45 pm to
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Mason said earlier in the day that he believed Fromm would be the starter, and that Smart was “not fooling me” by not naming a starter.

“Let’s quit with the coaching dramatics,” Mason said, while smiling, at his weekly press conference in Nashville.

Asked about Mason’s comments, and whether Mason was right that Fromm would start, Smart declined to say.

“Derek Mason’s entitled to his opinion,” Smart said. “Derek Mason’s not at our practices. He’s not privy to our practice film, to my knowledge. So I’m not really concerned with those comments.”
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41633 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:46 pm to
Not that I think CKS would start Eason to spite Mason, but it would be funny to see it anyway.
Posted by CalDawg
Member since Aug 2016
1444 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:04 pm to
Won't CKS make the starter decision based on which QB performs best during the practices leading up to the game? So could be either at this point. Otherwise, CKS has already decided who he'll start. And if that's true, gotta be Fromm, right?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63784 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:09 pm to
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Won't CKS make the starter decision based on which QB performs best during the practices leading up to the game?


That's if you believe what he tells the media.



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CKS has already decided who he'll start. And if that's true, gotta be Fromm, right?


He was telegraphing this before the season even started.
Posted by DawgFan85
Member since Sep 2017
241 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:32 pm to
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That's if you believe what he tells the media.


Not sure if I do. Heard him say at one point that he tells the media what they want to hear and tells the players the truth
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8423 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:20 pm to
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but fromm is 5-0!!!!!


All you need to know.

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Had nothing to do with the rest of the team. Everybody was saying last years team was the worst Georgia team they had seen in 20 years,

Stupid comment just stop.
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We just don't know what we have with Eason.

We had the whole 2016 season to see what he could do and clearly there was no command of the offense beyond a couple of series per game.



Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8423 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:23 pm to
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If you are honest, you, nor anybody else on this board knows how good, or bad Eason is this yea

We saw what we needed to see in the App st game. Same old same old.

Go back to the game day thread on here and people were rejoicing to have a true freshman over Eason come in, why? Because everyone knew what you know and are arguing just to argue because you know Fromm should remain the starter.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6939 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:49 pm to
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I am more concerned about his checkdowns


Checkdowns? Eason don't need no steenkin' checkdowns!
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 8:50 pm
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21579 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:12 pm to
I don't think Eason in the App State game was really much different than Fromm early on against UT.

The offensive line had a rough start in both games and couldn't run the ball well until the 2nd quarter. Both QBs were faced with 3rd and long situations early on.

I'm not advocating for Eason to start, but I don't really understand the criticism when he played less than one full quarter.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63784 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:16 pm to
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but I don't really understand the criticism when he played less than one full quarter.



The reason you don't understand it is because that's not what people are comparing.

People are comparing Eason's full body of work vs Fromm's (smaller) full body of work.

Fromm wins on every single legitimate metric.

The only argument is "But how much better could Eason be as a sophomore?" and we may never know, because of how well Fromm is doing.

Do you understand now?
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:18 pm
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3939 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:39 pm to
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Eason in the App State game

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Fromm early on against UT

One is App State at home. The other is UT on the road. Other than that, total samesies.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41633 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:46 pm to
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I don't think Eason in the App State game was really much different than Fromm early on against UT.

The offensive line had a rough start in both games and couldn't run the ball well until the 2nd quarter. Both QBs were faced with 3rd and long situations early on.
Disagree. Eason threw three passes against AS. The first one was a short completion and the other two were poorly thrown balls.

Fromm against TN was just the opposite. He had a bad throw to start out and then followed by two good throws, one a completion and the other a good looking back shoulder pass that should have been caught by Hardman for about a 25 yard gain. Eason then missed his next pass and then threw another 4 completions in a row, including the nice TD pass.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21579 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:29 pm to
Fans have been praising Fromm and have wanted him as the starter ever since the end of game one.

The same ones who were defending Eason last season for subpar play were that quick to turn on him.

It's unbelievable.
Posted by Thomaston_DAWG
Thomaston, Georgia
Member since Jan 2015
158 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:17 pm to
Someone earlier pointed out that Eason tallied a 55% completion percentage last year, Fromm is just above 60% this year. It just dawned on me that Eason's completions are inflated, due to the use of imac with the jet sweep which technically counted as a forward pass. We ran that play 3 or 4 times each game. Im curious to see what his actual completion percentage was?
Posted by UGADawg912
Nunya Dam Bizzness
Member since Sep 2016
1520 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:37 pm to
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Fromm is 4-1 on that ratio, fyi


Fromm has also benefitted from playing defenses that cant catch the ball that well. He has had quite a few INT's dropped by the Defense.
Posted by UGADawg912
Nunya Dam Bizzness
Member since Sep 2016
1520 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:40 pm to
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People are comparing Eason's full body of work vs Fromm's (smaller) full body of work. Fromm wins on every single legitimate metric.


This 2017 team is a lot better than the 2016 team.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41633 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:17 am to
That's true. Let's talk about the ways that Fromm's QB skills have been exaggerated by our better team. You can go first. Pick a trait of his that he should be sucking worse at if this current team was worse.
Posted by UGADawg912
Nunya Dam Bizzness
Member since Sep 2016
1520 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:35 am to
1) Fromm hasn't had to throw near as much as Eason did, because our running game couldn't do anything last year behind the OL.

ETA:

2) Eason had a lot of dropped passes last year that counted against him.

3) Fromm has fewer INT's, only because the defenses this year can't seem to catch.

I am not against Fromm by any means, I just don't see how people can be so quick to jump on Eason. All he did for everybody to be on Fromm's side is get injured.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:39 am
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:42 am to
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Pick a trait of his that likely would be worse if this current team was worse.


To name a few...
Completion percentage: lower percentage of QB hurries this season
Sacks taken: see above
Third down conversion: average distance to go on third down has decreased due to improved OL and running game play

All of this is of course conjecture and hypothetical as I've mentioned elsewhere... I'm not sure why it's difficult to admit that you simply don't have sufficient information to gauge Eason as a sophomore vs Fromm as a freshman. If 4 passing attempts is sufficient, then I should be able to "randomly" sample 4 passes of Fromm's this season and know everything I need to know about his talent... right? Like say Fromm's first 4 passing attempts in the Tennessee game?

1/4 for 7 yards and 0/2 on 3rd down conversions.

Brice Ramsay - 1/4 for 10 yards this season... and that's not including his completions to the opposition.

Jacob Eason - 1/4 for 4 yards

The dumbest part about all of this is I *actually* think Fromm should continue to start. It would just be dumb not to try and find out if Eason makes this team better or not. The bickering and complete lack of any basic logical comprehension displayed in these threads has been amusing though I suppose.
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