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re: WTF was Saban thinking kicking that FG?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:41 pm to Bad Medicine
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:41 pm to Bad Medicine
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A 57 yard field goal is not unheard of. The bad decision was not being ready for a possible return.
You can't have athletes on the field to stop a return and also prevent a block at the same time though. It's one or the other, which is why you don't kick it in that situation while tied. 57 yard FGs by kickers in their first attempt ever are possible, but the odds are just as bad as all the disastrous negatives that could come from it. So it's very simple...don't do it when the other option is overtime. I swear Saban was the only person watching that game even considering the possibility of a FG. Everyone was shocked when the kicking unit came out. Even Gary Danielson was like WTF, especially once AU called the TO to put Davis back there. That was Saban's chance to rethink but he stubbornly went for it anyways.
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:42 pm to Monticello
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How on earth did he come to the conclusion that kicking the FG was the best choice? Saban is an elite recruiter, talent developer and program manager, but damn he is only average (or possibly below average) at in game decision making.
I agree with every bit of this.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:45 pm to cas4t
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I can't believe what I'm reading right now
I'm in full meltdown almost 9 months after that game. Damn you ESPNU for re-airing that. Feels like it just happened
. Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:48 pm to GAFF
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The kid can actually make that kick. He made a 54 yarder (with yards to spare) in high school against my high school. I actually thought it was gonna be good when he kicked it. Everyone giving him hell after the game last year was ridiculous. He's gonna be a stud.
Who on earth blamed the rookie kicker for missing a 57 yarder? I would have to see that to believe it.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:49 pm to cas4t
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biiiig difference in a HS FG and a FG to win the Iron Bowl in front of thousands.
Point taken. I was mainly saying that if I knew he could make it then I'm certain Saban did as well. May not have been the most opportune time, but if you have a kid who you know can make it why not give him a shot. My biggest argument is why would you not put him in for the 30 yard kick but you will for the 57? I remember yelling at the tv for him to put the kid in and instead we go for it on 4th down. Still blows my mind.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:54 pm to GAFF
It reminded me of LSU/Bama in 2012 when Les faked the field goal he should have kicked and kicked the field goal he should have faked.
I guess hindsight is always 20/20 for an armchair coach like myself, though. I still remember sitting in the stands and hoping that wouldn't come back to haunt us.
It did, of course.
I guess hindsight is always 20/20 for an armchair coach like myself, though. I still remember sitting in the stands and hoping that wouldn't come back to haunt us.
It did, of course.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:55 pm to GAFF
I actually supported going for it on 4th. With the talent Bama has at oline and HB, we should be able to convert a 4th and 1 the vast majority of the time. We simply didn't execute on that one. Foster was a complete mental case after the 3rd miss and we had seen this before with him against LSU. Some athletes simply can't recover mentally when they get down. He is one of them. He was a solid kicker the rest of the year, but was worthless under pressure.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:55 pm to Monticello
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Who on earth blamed the rookie kicker for missing a 57 yarder? I would have to see that to believe it.
Not necessarily blaming him for the miss but i read quite a few post doubting his ability and referring to that kick as evidence. A TF attempting a game winning kick from 57 yards in one of the biggest rivalries and in their house knowing that if you make it your team will get a shot to play for the championship. I couldn't image the pressure. And he still only missed by a few yards and a lil right. Unbelievable.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:10 pm to cas4t
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biiiig difference in a HS FG and a FG to win the Iron Bowl in front of thousands.
To be fair, it was nationally televised. Good thing is that no one can remember his name, but we do know Cade's.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:13 pm to GAFF
I'm still blown away that a field goal attempt even happened with one second left. Was really thinking Hail Mary or screen pass.
Or knowing nick, being super conservative and going into OT.
Or knowing nick, being super conservative and going into OT.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:24 pm to Monticello
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Who on earth blamed the rookie kicker for missing a 57 harder?
Bama fans bro........some of which would murder you for the OP.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:26 pm to Monticello
quote:That he was screwed if it went to OT. His defense hadn't stopped Auburn and that Auburn had a kicker and a good Redzone defense. Also that the odds of making a Hail Mary are slimmer than making a 57 FG with a kicker that can hit it from 60.
WTF was Saban thinking kicking that FG?
If the kicker was really hitting 60 yarders in practice like he claimed then I would have too. I would have just made sure to have it covered on a kick that long.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:29 pm to Monticello
I've never seen a kick six play. Saban is too well paid to make such a boneheaded call. Okay if he wanted to go for it, fine, but don't send out all the big boys. Take a chance for a block, but maybe a speedy guy can make a tackle. He sent out a cold kid in a hostile as can be environment who hasn't kicked in a real game for a 57 yarder? I think he just said "damn it, we're due for a major clutch FG" and cost us a shot at the SEC and BCS championship in one dumbass moment. He's the best coach in CFB, but he is human. He was drinking his own Kool-Aid that day in Auburn..
shite happens.
shite happens.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:30 pm to Monticello
He's just not a game day coach.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:14 am to Monticello
quote:i get that you have to bring them in to prevent the block, but it seemed like the return caught them completely off guard. They were all just standing around instead of preparing to defend a return the moment the ball was kicked.
You can't have athletes on the field to stop a return and also prevent a block at the same time
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:17 am to Bad Medicine
Odell Beckham had one early that same year so it's not like it wasn't on anybody's mind as a possibility. It had just happened and they knew it.
Honestly when they kicked that ball, I had about 80% certainty that was about to happen after having seen Odell do it.
Honestly when they kicked that ball, I had about 80% certainty that was about to happen after having seen Odell do it.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:24 am to Bad Medicine
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They were all just standing around instead of preparing to defend a return the moment the ball was kicked.
It was like they thought it was a dead ball.
Take a knee or throw a deep ball and hope for a catch in the endzone or maybe get a pass interference call, then kick a FG.
Hell, Nick and the staff would have time to "coach up" the D during the extended timeout before OT.
I don't think it was set in stone AU wins in OT.
But, thank God a new season is almost here.
That game ending was the most WTF
of a moment you could ever imagine.
Just brutal.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 12:27 am
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:25 am to Captain Rumbeard
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Odell Beckham had one early that same year
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:28 am to Hater Bait
quote:i agree. Auburn would have definitely had the edge going in but I wouldn't have been surprised if bama would have won. Bama outplayed auburn in the fourth quarter.
I don't think it was set in stone AU wins in OT.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:32 am to Monticello
Jordan Hare Stadium.
End of day, he knew the Hare was pissed the frick off and his team would probably fold in OT.
He was desperate.
He went all in.
There goes Davis. Thanks for coming out, hope you enjoyed the show.
End of day, he knew the Hare was pissed the frick off and his team would probably fold in OT.
He was desperate.
He went all in.
There goes Davis. Thanks for coming out, hope you enjoyed the show.
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