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Posted on 8/15/14 at 8:52 am to Monticello
I honestly think Saban didnt want to give Auburns offense the ball in OT. Very hard to stop inside the 25 yard line. I think the stat last year was a TD about 70% of the time.
Saban thought what harm can it be? Make the FG and win the game. Miss and we just go to OT. Nobody figured on the Kicksix.
Saban thought what harm can it be? Make the FG and win the game. Miss and we just go to OT. Nobody figured on the Kicksix.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 8:56 am to Pavoloco83
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I honestly think Saban didnt want to give Auburns offense the ball in OT. Very hard to stop inside the 25 yard line. I think the stat last year was a TD about 70% of the time.
Another good reason. I think it's safe to say that any coach should be concerned about overtime in college without a reliable kicker.
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Saban thought what harm can it be? Make the FG and win the game. Miss and we just go to OT. Nobody figured on the Kicksix.
Exactly.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:02 am to Monticello
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Odds of a miss being returned for a TD by a track star with nothing but a kicker, QB and offensive linemen on the field to defend it: 35-40%
Just with the data we have before us, I would put these odds at 100%, for now.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:03 am to artompkins
he was thinking "If we make this field goal we win the game"
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:04 am to Crimson Legend
I was watching the SECN this morning and Cade Foster kicked a FG, made me wonder who is going to the Bama kicker will be this year?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:06 am to Pavoloco83
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:08 am to Monticello
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...with nothing but a kicker, QB and offensive linemen on the field to defend it...
Who was the QB? McCarron was the holder for Foster, not Griffith, pretty sure AJ was on the bench...Mandell (the punter) was the 2nd team holder and I remember him taking a diving wave at Davis as he ran by...this is the one play where I think Vinnie Sunseri's injury might've been felt the most during last season...he was the 2nd team placeholder until his injury...not saying he would've made the tackle on Davis, but he would've stood a much better chance than Mandell (or any one else that was out there for Bama)...props to Auburn for puttin' Davis back there; once he hit the 20-yard line, I looked at my son and said, "He's gone..."
For what it's worth, at the time, I was all for goin' for the FG (with Griffith kicking)...didn't like our chances in OT after all the missed FGs and blown chances in the red zone...
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:15 am to Monticello
quote:Robinson Therezie came the closest when he ran in front of him at about the 20 yard line. I still think he is going to trip him every time I watch the replay.
Watch the replay again. Who was going to stop Davis? He was 10x the athlete of anyone on the field wearing crimson.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:20 am to Monticello
which was worse? the FG attempt or the fake punt on 4th 20 from your own 23 yard line against Texas? disregard the outcome of the game.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:26 am to Choctaw
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which was worse? the FG attempt or the fake punt on 4th 20 from your own 23 yard line against Texas? disregard the outcome of the game.
Very good point.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:26 am to Monticello
IMO Saban felt the momentum shifting in AU's favor the last few minutes of the game. Bama's defense wasn't stopping AU's offense the majority of the game and defense is what wins games in OT. Even if it went to OT Saban didn't have any confidence in the Bama kicker.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:39 am to beatbammer
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He knew AU wins if it goes OT
WTF is this shite?
Is Saban a goddamn psychic?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:42 am to Billy Mays
He knows he is a great recruiter but not a very good coach, imo.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:43 am to Billy Mays
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WTF is this shite?
Is Saban a goddamn psychic?
The REC has gotten to God. Saban now knows what God will do next.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:44 am to OBReb6
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I hope the poor dude isn't a poster here
This is the wrong attitude to have and I know you don't really mean it.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:50 am to Hardy_Har
It was very bad coaching.
But the choice wasn't between a FG and Kneeling the ball going to OT.
It was between going for the FG and throwing a Hail Mary.
A Hail Mary had a better chance of being completed than the 57 yd field goal had of being made. Also the Hail Mary wouldn't have had the chance at being blocked or much of a chance of being returned for a touchdown.
Much lower risk and higher chance of the W without going to OT.
TERRIBLE COACHING BY SABAN...he followed it up with a panic hire of KIffin and the dynasty is crumbling!!!
But the choice wasn't between a FG and Kneeling the ball going to OT.
It was between going for the FG and throwing a Hail Mary.
A Hail Mary had a better chance of being completed than the 57 yd field goal had of being made. Also the Hail Mary wouldn't have had the chance at being blocked or much of a chance of being returned for a touchdown.
Much lower risk and higher chance of the W without going to OT.
TERRIBLE COACHING BY SABAN...he followed it up with a panic hire of KIffin and the dynasty is crumbling!!!
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:51 am to Monticello
He took a shot. Nothing wrong with that. What was obviously missed was emphasis on kick coverage. Most of his kicking team was standing around watching the ball instead of getting down field for kick coverage.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:01 am to Monticello
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Monticello
WTF was Saban thinking kicking that FG?
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How on earth did he come to the conclusion that kicking the FG was the best choice?
Saban is an elite recruiter, talent developer and program manager, but damn he is only average (or possibly below average) at in game decision making.
And how is that no one ever mentions Saban's other time/game management/last play gaffes (UAB 2000, Ole Miss 2001, Arkansas 2002, Iowa 2004, ULM 2007, Auburn 2013); but Miles is vilified for the '09 Ole Miss game?
Jordan Jefferson didn't realize that the clock was running and he needed to snap the ball and throw it in the end zone. (Miles did not shout at him to 'clock it' - he was motioning to the ref that the ball was down - as he explained to the media all that following week.)
True, in hindsight many wish Miles would have gone for the first down near the end of the '12 Bama game. But had the FG been good, we probably would have won anyway.
The end of the '07 Auburn game was not time mis-management. Miles was going to kick the FG had Flynn not connected with Byrd for the winning TD. What he DIDN'T count on was Flynn stupidly waiting several seconds before taking the snap... (There were still 3 seconds left on the clock after the catch - LSU """"DID"""" kick off to Auburn, the game wasn't OVERRRRRR.)
In fact, in Miles' ONE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN games as coach at LSU - he has only been out of a hand ful of games (2005 Georgia, 2008 Ole Miss and Florida, 2012 NC Game, 2013 Bama (though the game was tied 17-17 in the 4th).
Out of 119 games, that's an amazing stat.
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:07 am to OBReb6
Who cares. It's over, we lost. New year now
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